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Username Post: Help decoding a 57 cowl Tag        (Topic#341793)
57210sportsedan 
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01-09-17 02:49 PM - Post#2670303    

Hi All,
I have checked all the resources I can find but still have a couple of cowl tag questions that I can't answer.

The car is a 57 210 sport sedan that I have owned for 32 years, so I know the car fairly well.

The body style is 1039, S for Saint Louis, the 876th 57 body from this plant, Trim 654 … so far so good! But the paint is listed as "793A - TG" The car was originally black, that is for sure, but maybe the coves and top were white from the factory too (the way I always knew the car)? I can't find anything about the "A" or "TG" and 793 seems to be a single-color code. Any ideas?

The accessory line is blank (the car was bare-bones) although I know the car had EZ-Eye glass, maybe "TG" is for "Tinted Glass"? Thanks in advance!

Markus
57 Chevy 210 Sport Sedan
70 Triumph Spitfire
bought and sold a few more ...


 

57210sportsedan 
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01-09-17 03:01 PM - Post#2670306    
    In response to 57210sportsedan

The car is also a 235 with a Powerglide, both of which have casting date codes that seem to match the rest of the car (mid-Feb), so Turboglide is probably not the answer for "TG".

Also, what color was the carpet originally in a charcoal and ivory 210 interior?

Markus
57 Chevy 210 Sport Sedan
70 Triumph Spitfire
bought and sold a few more ...


 
chevyman57B.C. 
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01-09-17 05:12 PM - Post#2670329    
    In response to 57210sportsedan

tinted glass was EZI not TG
Larry



 
LtFrankDrebin 
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01-09-17 09:46 PM - Post#2670383    
    In response to 57210sportsedan

I believe the 793A paint code is for solid Onyx Black. Not sure what the 'TG' is for. The 'A' in the paint code denoted a single color. For two-tone cars, the letters B,C,D designated the scheme of the two-tone. The cowl tag said nothing of the power train, so the 'TG' is definitely not for Turboglide. The Turboglide was not offered with the 235 6 cylinder anyway. For a '57 charcoal/ivory interior, I believe the carpet would be black. If your car was originally EZEye tinted glass from the factory, it would have appeared on the cowl tag. If there is no 'EZI' on your cowl tag, then maybe the 'TG' does represent tinted glass? I know there was more than one way to represent the padded dash on the cowl tag, although this would be the first time I see this 'TG' for tinted glass.

'56 210 Townsman wagon 6cyl/3spd OD | '58 Impala Sierra Gold 348


 
nstlga 
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01-10-17 08:47 AM - Post#2670426    
    In response to 57210sportsedan

A 210 would not have had carpet originally.

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ThumperNZ 
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01-11-17 01:32 AM - Post#2670541    
    In response to nstlga

Our St Louis BelAir 1039D Sport Sedan also has TG, it seems to be used for Tinted Glass. Not all the plants used the EZI for that.
793A is definitely all Onyx Black. The A stands for All.
On the 2 color paint codes, they end in B, C, D & E.
A: single color car
B: two tone scheme for 150/210
C: Speedline two tone for 210
D: Belair two tone
E: Speedline two tone for 150


'57 Model 1037D COMPLETED! (but are they really?


 
57210sportsedan 
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01-11-17 10:53 AM - Post#2670577    
    In response to LtFrankDrebin

Thanks!

And they really didn't plan for specific engine combinations at Fisher? Not that I think that plays a roll here, but I figured clutch yes-no, location of data tag and other such details might have been important.

As far as I can tell, I am the first person to take this car apart, even if I am not the first one to paint it (one repaint). So I am very sure the glass is original, being all tinted and with matching codes. Something odd though is that the car seems to have always had Belair belt moldings on the driver's side and 210 on the passenger. Here too I am 99% sure the doors had never been off or otherwise messed with, nor were there signs of previous accident damage (my teenage years put a quick end to that). So Fisher did do some wacky things! Then again I guess if I had worked there I might have put random codes on some tags just to mess with people.

Markus
57 Chevy 210 Sport Sedan
70 Triumph Spitfire
bought and sold a few more ...


 
57210sportsedan 
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01-11-17 10:55 AM - Post#2670578    
    In response to ThumperNZ

Thanks! That makes sense. EZ-Eye was the only option the car seemed to have had, outside of a standard heater and a radio, but those may have been dealer installed.

Markus
57 Chevy 210 Sport Sedan
70 Triumph Spitfire
bought and sold a few more ...


 
57210sportsedan 
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01-11-17 10:58 AM - Post#2670579    
    In response to nstlga

Really, no carpet? What then, a big rubber mat? The car had deep shag when I got it in 85, I don't think there was a cowl tag code for that either

Markus
57 Chevy 210 Sport Sedan
70 Triumph Spitfire
bought and sold a few more ...


Edited by 57210sportsedan on 01-11-17 10:58 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Jalapeno 
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01-11-17 09:07 PM - Post#2670667    
    In response to 57210sportsedan

It was not uncommon for Dealers to add a second color to single color cars to move them a little quicker. When you do the repaint look at the layers of color under the white and see if that was done to yours.

Jalapeno


 
warpwr 
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01-11-17 11:38 PM - Post#2670681    
    In response to 57210sportsedan

Belair, Nomad and Delray had carpet. Rubber mat for 210 and 150.


Vaughn
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Gene_Schneider 
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01-12-17 07:32 AM - Post#2670711    
    In response to nstlga

There were two versions of tinted glass in 1957.
EZI was the version with the dark green band on top of the windshield and lower area as well as all other glass tinted green. This was most common.
The TG version was tinted glass in all windows except the back glass and no darker green band on top of windshield.
EZI glass was option #398 and tinted was #697M.
My "new" 1957 had tinted. It was billed on the invoice at $39.00.


ChevGene 1934 Master sedan 1939 Master DeLuxe Town Sedan 1950 Styline DeLuxe Power Glide 1957 Nomad 283 PG 1963 Corvair Convertible


 
Jalapeno 
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01-12-17 08:39 PM - Post#2670861    
    In response to Gene_Schneider

I never knew that, thanks Gene.

Jalapeno


 
57210sportsedan 
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01-13-17 12:15 PM - Post#2670953    
    In response to Gene_Schneider

Thanks Gene, I didn't know there were two types of tinted glass. My car has the (matching) EZ-Eye tinted glass for sure and I really can't see (or imagine) where anyone had previously swapped all the side glass and windshield. I am sadly replacing it all now, outside of the back glass thanks to thy typical seperation, fogging, etc. But it looks at least in this case "TG" was referring to EZ-Eye.

Markus
57 Chevy 210 Sport Sedan
70 Triumph Spitfire
bought and sold a few more ...


 
Gene_Schneider 
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01-14-17 01:12 PM - Post#2671155    
    In response to 57210sportsedan

You will find that the tinted side windows have lost their green tint over the last 60 years. If the windshiled had the darker green band on top it will have fadded to a slight gold.

ChevGene 1934 Master sedan 1939 Master DeLuxe Town Sedan 1950 Styline DeLuxe Power Glide 1957 Nomad 283 PG 1963 Corvair Convertible


 
ThumperNZ 
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01-14-17 02:25 PM - Post#2671166    
    In response to Gene_Schneider

Actually, this solves a mystery. We have an un-restored '57 Sport Sedan, TG on the cowl tag, it had a untinted rear window, which I thought unusual, which shattered one night in the garage. When we removed the remains it was definitely the original seal and pristine original paint under it.

'57 Model 1037D COMPLETED! (but are they really?


 
Jay_Hammond 
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01-15-17 04:21 PM - Post#2671403    
    In response to ThumperNZ

Great information, Gene. Still learning after all of these years. Jay


'57 150 270hp '57 Delray 283hp '57 Adobe Beige rag, 220hp, O.D, posi '57 Nomad 220hp, glide '36 Plymouth (oops) woodie, w/325 Dodge hemi


 
Gene_Schneider 
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01-15-17 06:49 PM - Post#2671431    
    In response to Jay_Hammond

Another little "fact"

In 1957, as per Technical Information dated 9-20-57 (probably actually happened before that) "To permit Fisher Body to use surplus stock, a deviation was issued to permit building approxinately 10,000 units which will incorperate tinted glass in both front door ventilators. All other glass in these bodies will be clear."

It doesn't mention which plant or body styles.

ChevGene 1934 Master sedan 1939 Master DeLuxe Town Sedan 1950 Styline DeLuxe Power Glide 1957 Nomad 283 PG 1963 Corvair Convertible


 
Jay_Hammond 
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01-17-17 05:51 AM - Post#2671746    
    In response to Gene_Schneider

cool stuff, love it. thanks

'57 150 270hp '57 Delray 283hp '57 Adobe Beige rag, 220hp, O.D, posi '57 Nomad 220hp, glide '36 Plymouth (oops) woodie, w/325 Dodge hemi


 
Jalapeno 
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01-17-17 10:13 AM - Post#2671802    
    In response to Jay_Hammond

Yeah, I love this stuff.

How many owners (original or others) were puzzled by the tinted vent panes and wondered why they were different than the rest of their glass?

Jalapeno


 

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