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Username Post: port holes in skirts?        (Topic#341711)
3rdelke 
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01-05-17 02:21 PM - Post#2669501    

not a question weather or not you like the look as I have kinda decided to install 53 buick in my skirts. problem is the car is already painted. anyone have a good idea how to cut oval holes? thx, bob



 

rrausch 
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01-05-17 03:29 PM - Post#2669514    
    In response to 3rdelke

How about using something like this:

Nibbler

1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
Bel Air kiwi 
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Bel Air kiwi
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01-05-17 11:24 PM - Post#2669578    
    In response to rrausch

Hi Bob, Cool Idea. Couple of questions arise.
Have you already got your 53 ports, because looking at a primed body the original port holes have an elongated circular hole which would have been die cut in a gang punch which you simply won't find tooling for now.

The best device for cutting a round hole in an already painted flat panel is a chassis punch. They are actually radio chassis punches that were very common back in the day for non distorted round hole cutting. Google "Chassis punch" and images and you will see what I mean.

I have a concern that three oval ports would be too crowded on the space of a Bel Air skirt. Particularly given that they are bulky on the inside and may get too close to the wheel and the mounting structure to put them where they look right. Or if there is enough space in the back for it to work.
If I was going to steal your Idea, and that is very likely to happen, I would put three of the 51-52 Buick Roadmaster round ones with the flute and the wing. They are not so obviously Buick to the casual observer and super easy to install.

Cheers Kiwi


48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars


 
Bel Air kiwi 
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Bel Air kiwi
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01-05-17 11:39 PM - Post#2669580    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

Hi Bob, If you look at the back of the 53 type porthole there is a lot of depth that sits behind the outside surface. I went down and put my hand between the wheel and skirt and there just doesn't feel like there is enough space to give wheel clearance. Plus the lever lock would probably have to go so you would need to make the skirt lock in place some other way.
If I was to rate my chances of getting all the oval holes done right and the whole thing working without a fubar or scratching the paint. The honest answer is nil.
So when I steal your idea and do it on my Bel Air I am going to use the 51-2 Roadmaster ones. I like them because they whisper Buick and don't shout it. They are not as wide and so I will play around with the spacing a bit. When I finally mount them each one is just the little bolts from the inside, so no clearance issues and no large hole at all.
I can fubar it quite a bit and slot the holes and you will never see it. I bet I could do that without damaging the paint as well, but that is not a concern for me.
I would double sided tape them in place and eyeball a few different spacings and heights to get my final look then do a templated mount guide and drill the three small holes for each.

Funny thing is that the 51 style ones are cheaper and about ten times quicker and easier to mount using just handy man tools.

Cheers Kiwi

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48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars


Edited by Bel Air kiwi on 01-05-17 11:52 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Dean50 
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01-06-17 09:21 AM - Post#2669644    
    In response to 3rdelke

Welcome to Chevy Talk.
Whichever ones you use, I think it will look sharp.

Dean50



 
3rdelke 
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01-06-17 10:53 AM - Post#2669664    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

Kiwi, I have checked depth and should be enough clearance between brackets and wheel(late model posi). I really don't mind you stealing my idea cause the 52s look good but not quite as sexy as the oval 53s.thinking about carving out a two by six pine board to keep them solid and maybe a small circumference blade on a die grinder or angle grinder. then maybe a burr to clean them up.



 
3rdelke 
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01-06-17 10:59 AM - Post#2669665    
    In response to Dean50

thx, dean. hope it works, if not ill just repaint them. the paint is maybe 9 years old, but my brother never got it out of his garage, so it would be a descent match down low. its the new t bird color, pale green pearl



 
Bel Air kiwi 
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01-06-17 06:39 PM - Post#2669747    
    In response to 3rdelke

Hi, Pale green pearl with clear coat looks stunning, google a car called "Kiwi Crush".
Matching old pearl colors is next to impossible as the pearl has to be flowed the same way to look even close to the same color.
Anything with pearl and iridescence needs to be painted as one, Light colors are worst.

Cheers Kiwi

48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars


 
rrausch 
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rrausch
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01-06-17 11:05 PM - Post#2669783    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi



1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
Bel Air kiwi 
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Bel Air kiwi
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01-06-17 11:58 PM - Post#2669787    
    In response to rrausch

Hi Robert, Ha ha, this is what the real Kiwi Crush looks like.
Just out of interest, the fruit everybody calls "Kiwi" actually came from China and we engineered and faked them by branding them Kiwi.
Bet that's the first time it has happened that way around.
This is a US car and is one of the most refined and stunning Bel Airs I've seen

Cheers Kiwi

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48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars


Edited by Bel Air kiwi on 01-07-17 12:27 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Mike JW 
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01-07-17 05:22 PM - Post#2669946    
    In response to rrausch

Good one RR I like it.



 
rrausch 
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01-07-17 08:09 PM - Post#2669990    
    In response to Mike JW

Thanks Mike.

But wow. That car is remarkable! Just gorgeous.

1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
Bel Air kiwi 
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Bel Air kiwi
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01-07-17 11:08 PM - Post#2670017    
    In response to rrausch

Hi Robert, I thought you were "inserting the catheter" with the drink picture. (Taking the Piss).
That car was featured on the HAMB and it has a different approach to chopping the hardtop, which are challenging any way. Some would call this a mild custom but I just think it is superbly refined by someone with a real sense of what the car needs. About the only thing I would change is run it about 1-2" higher to make it easier to use as a vehicle. But that's preference not criticism.

It doesn't show in this picture very well but the roof and dash are a darker green and metal-flaked.

Cheers Kiwi

48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars


Edited by Bel Air kiwi on 01-07-17 11:09 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 

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