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Username Post: Helix brand control arms ? Any good        (Topic#341641)
Adam63impala 
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01-03-17 02:12 AM - Post#2669104    

Anyone have any experience with the brand Helix ? Or in particular these control arms ? Haven't heard of the brand so just curious.

It won't let me post a screenshot image , so they are on ebay for a good price open box if want to take a look.

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55Brodie 
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01-03-17 09:05 AM - Post#2669131    
    In response to Adam63impala

http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/

Run Forest, run!

Lots of bad press about this company and their products.





 
gofastwclass 
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01-03-17 09:16 AM - Post#2669132    
    In response to 55Brodie

Are we talking about front upper and lower control arms? Why not simply buy CPP control arms? CPP has two sets, a "budget" set and the higher dollar set. I have the budget set which are complete and work very well.

I've been running the CPP fronts for over two years and lots of miles without issues. See my build for details.

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models916 
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01-03-17 09:46 AM - Post#2669137    
    In response to gofastwclass

That IS the same mfg. as the CPP budget arms. On mine, the spacing on the upper bolt holes were off and CPP reimbursed me to have a machine shop open up the dimensions. Been 3 years now. No problems. I think it cost me $40 to respace the holes on an end mill. That would be an advantage from buying from a good vendor…..



 
gofastwclass 
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01-03-17 02:38 PM - Post#2669180    
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Interesting. I thought they looked similar.

As I said, I had zero problems with mine and I drive this car as much as time and weather will allow. I bought the arms through CPP and they literally dropped right in. I did run through all the bolts to ensure everything was tight and lubed properly during the install, but that is normal.

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Adam63impala 
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01-04-17 12:56 PM - Post#2669314    
    In response to gofastwclass

So basically I'd have the same problem you did models916



 
models916 
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01-05-17 07:59 AM - Post#2669404    
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I'm sure it's been corrected by now.




 
gofastwclass 
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01-05-17 08:22 AM - Post#2669408    
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  • models916 Said:
I'm sure it's been corrected by now.




I agree, I purchased two sets at the same time from CPP about two years ago. Both sets installed in both cars with zero extra effort or modification. You can see my build topic for on what I've done to my car plus results and full disclosure regarding my experience with every product I've used.

The second set went on the 1963 Impala wagon I've been tinkering with for my friend. Once complete I'll try to do a build topic for him if he is interested in sharing the story.

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Adam63impala 
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01-05-17 04:51 PM - Post#2669521    
    In response to gofastwclass

Wow sounds great . My ball joints and everything needs replacing, and a lower control arm got banged up on a concrete block in the middle of the road .. thinking of just getting those .. what's the advantages, better handling ?



 
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01-05-17 06:10 PM - Post#2669534    
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The CPP arms were powder coated black and fully loaded with bushings and ball joints. The only tweaks they needed (as expected) was tightening everything to spec during installation and grease.

I'm told the upper arms have 5° caster built in compared to the factory part. This makes the car more stable at highway speed.

I would contact CPP via phone for full details. Their website flat out sucked last time I looked, but they answer calls quickly. They also included a full line printed catalog that is miles better than their feeble attempt at a web presence. Even one of their phone guys agreed their website is lacking. Sad.

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Adam63impala 
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01-05-17 06:38 PM - Post#2669539    
    In response to gofastwclass

Sounds good . Do they have poly urethane bushings ? You're right about their website ..good grief .



 
gofastwclass 
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01-05-17 08:09 PM - Post#2669558    
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The bushings are Delrin or similar material with grease zerks. Page one of my build topic has several images of the CPP a-arms in the boxes and installed on my car.


Close-ish of the upper bushing area.



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Adam63impala 
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01-22-17 03:16 PM - Post#2672864    
    In response to gofastwclass

Says only the lower bushings are polyurethane ..Wonder why not the top as well ? And I was thinking of getting these since my control arm bushings and ball joints are all shot... figured cheaper to go this route ..and the added handling benefit ..



 
models916 
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01-23-17 07:42 AM - Post#2673011    
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Tops are a hybrid plastic that Global West invented. Only needs a greasing once in a while and doesn't make noise. These are copies/stolen design of the GW arms.



 
gofastwclass 
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01-23-17 11:28 PM - Post#2673209    
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The a-arms I posted the image of came from CPP and use the same delrin looking / feeling material on the uppers and lowers. The upper material is visible in the image.

The only polyurethane in use on these a-arms is for the bump stops.

I've driven mine the last two summers nearly daily and not had a single problem. I would buy another set if I had a car to install them on.

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models916 
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01-24-17 06:06 AM - Post#2673221    
    In response to gofastwclass

They all appear to be made by the same people offshore. Mine are 4+ years old and working perfect.



 
Adam63impala 
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01-24-17 07:20 AM - Post#2673231    
    In response to gofastwclass

You can install them on mine



 
gofastwclass 
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01-24-17 07:38 PM - Post#2673334    
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  • Adam63impala Said:
You can install them on mine



If someone is nice enough to ship me three sets for free, I'll give you one. Hahaha!!!

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Adam63impala 
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01-24-17 08:39 PM - Post#2673354    
    In response to gofastwclass

I won't hold my breath ! Where do ya live ?



 
gofastwclass 
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01-25-17 10:35 PM - Post#2673575    
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Trust me, I'm not! Hahaha

I'm in Kansas City.

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Adam63impala 
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02-28-17 03:08 PM - Post#2679003    
    In response to gofastwclass

Well now I'm thinking about going with these brand Tom .. never heard of them , anyone else? I haven't looked to see how much the budget CPP are. Hopefully around 300..



 
Adam63impala 
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02-28-17 03:08 PM - Post#2679004    
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Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/222258748200



 
Adam63impala 
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02-28-17 03:33 PM - Post#2679007    
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Also is a spring compressor necessary or should I just have a shop install them ?



 
Russg 
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03-05-17 06:36 AM - Post#2679747    
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Hello i have these on my 62 and look and perform great. I do have a camber issue that i cant shim to fix. It cambers in at the top slightly,but enough to bother me and cant adjust.my car is lowered so that might be part of the issue. Overall good deal bought new off ebay.... cheap



 
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