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Username Post: Header sticky        (Topic#337842)
Vinnie55 
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07-28-16 10:54 PM - Post#2642324    

Hey all,

I remember there used to be a header sticky at the top of this forum. I am almost done with my '55 resto and I have upgraded to CPP tubular a-arm set, and their 500 PS box. I bought the BluePrint 383 roller stroker motor with 425hp and running the PRC aluminum radiator and support. I have removed both of the original transmission "horns" from the frame and I am using Earl Williams motor mounts and transmission crossmember for the 700R4. I am interested in using 3/4 length ceramic coated headers.

Thoughts?

Thanks!



 

Nick P 
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07-29-16 02:32 PM - Post#2642435    
    In response to Vinnie55

Yup, when I first came on board (old database)it had been started by someone here. I redid it once before the change to a new database was done and folks began adding to it. About then, I moved to Texas, the database was changed and it went away. If someone knew how to find the old database it's still in it.



 
Nick P 
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07-29-16 02:52 PM - Post#2642441    
    In response to Nick P

We've been beating this topic forever, time for what fits & what application. Fit means no dimpling of tubes BTW. Bolt-ons only- no major cutting & re-weld. Keep it simple & to the point. Brand & part numbers. Design will be shorty, cast, full length, 3/4 length. List primary size & collector size.Lets keep this reference only. No questions or chatter. Start another thread for that. If you don't know if it will clear 605 or a R&P, say so. Only personal experience- not what you heard will fit. Just because the catalog says it fits the 605 means nothing. Mine says 605 friendly, but I had to grind on the stock box. We can fill in the blanks as other members chime in w/ their application. Here's mine for example. Just post this.
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Engine size- SBC
Brand & #- Hooker Super Comps 2112-1 Ceramic coated
Price- Got direct from Hooker- no price
605- stock box needed slight grinding- I doubt will clear a 605
3/4 forward- unknown
PB- Yes
R&P- Don't know
A/C- Don't know
Column shift- Don't know
Auto/Stick- TH350 or 400 ok, 4 spd unknown.
Design- Full length 1 3/4 x 30- 3" collector
Heads- Fit angle (best fit) & straight plug heads. Fits AFR angle plug heads (theirs are different BTW)
Glide mounts- Remove them
Side motor mounts- Yes
Header bolts- very tight w/ 1 3/4 tube. Use ARP 1" long, w/ 5/16 12 pt head.
Ground clearance- Excellent. Nothing below frame.
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- Marginal on driver side
Starter clearance- Good


Engine size- SBC
Brand & Earle Williams Coated
Price- $569 in 2000, discounted because he installed during chassis build up.
605- no grinding
3/4 forward- no dimple required
PB- Yes
A/C- Yes
Column shift- No
Auto/Stick- Stick, ROD.
Design- Full length 1 3/4 x 30- 3" collector
Heads- DART Iron Eagle cast iron.
Glide mounts- Remove them
Side motor mounts- Yes, 3/4 forwqard.
Ground clearance- Excellent. Nothing below frame.
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- Good both sides, passenger better.
Misc - head to header flange is superior, extra cost was saved in other areas.


Year/model:'56 210 sedan
Frame: Seamless
Engine: 383
Trans:700R4
P/B: yes
P/S: yes
R&P Yes
605 NO
Engine Mounts: Side mount standard position
Trans Mount: Trans tailshaft mount
Alterations: Stock Tranny Bellhousing mounts removed
Steering: CCI Rack & Pinion with Borgeson Steering Shaft
Suspension: Tubluar A-arms with coil overs
HEADERS: Flowtech Afterburners
SOURCE: Summit Racing
PRICING:
Part# BIG-49100-1 ceramic coated version $239.95
Part# BIG-49100 non coated version $139.95
Design: Full length 3" collectors
Heads: Dart Sportsman II. Will Fit angle & straight plug heads
Ground clearance: Excellent. Fit between frame rails Nothing below frame.
Oil filter access: good
Firewall clearance: Excellent
Fit and Finish: Excellent
Installation Difficulty: Fair. Installed from below. 3 Cylinders the bolt is difficult to tighten, recommend using allen head bolts as a solution.
Measurement Details: At the steering box and steering assembly mounting holes in the frame on the driver side at the bolt hole closest to the firewall there is a minimum of 3.0", at the 2nd bolt hole there is 3.25", and at the third bolt hole there is about 3.75".
Advisory: Latest report is sadly these still are not the solution for the 605 box.
Bob


Engine size- SBC
Brand & #- Thorley tri-y #311Y
Price- $355
Stock Box cleared, 605 unknown
3/4 forward- no frame dimple required
PB- Don't know
R&P- Don't know
A/C- Don't know
Column shift- yes with danchuk shift rod to clear headers for th350
Auto/Stick- TH350 ok
Design- Full length
Heads- straight plug heads/ angled unknown
Glide mounts- Remove them
Side motor mounts- Yes
Ground clearance- poor about 2 inch below frame. they should fix that
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- good, close to idler arm bolts
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Engine size- SBC
Brand & #- Sanderson Qp1000 coated
Price- $500
605- clears
3/4 forward- no problem
R&P- Don't know
A/C- Don't know
Column shift- Don't know
Auto/Stick- Stick
Design- Shorty
Heads- Fit angle (best fit) & straight plug heads
Glide mounts- Remove them
Side motor mounts- Yes
Ground clearance- Excellent. Nothing below frame.
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- no problem

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55 Chevy/2-door sedan
Engine size-SBC
Brand and # Doug Thorley Streettubes, #11 (circa 1977 and long discontinued),
Price-$75 (in 1977)
605-Cleared, no alterations
Side motor mounts by Earle Williams, stock location-Cleared, no alterations
P/B-Yes
R&P-Don't know
A/C-Don't know
Column shift-Don't know
Auto/stick-4 spd./'57 type clutch linkage-Cleared, no alterations, Auto-don't know
Design-Full length, 1 5/8" tubes with 3" collector
Heads-straight plug-clears; slant plug-don't know
Bellhousing mounts, clears with no alteration
Ground clearance-Poor, 2 inches below frame
Oil filter clearance-Good
Frame clearance-Good, both sides


Engine size- BBC
Brand- Williams Classic Chassis Works
Full length, 2" Primary, 31/2" coll.
Price- $779 Coated
605-stock box needed slight notching
Side mounts- welded in & moves engine 3/4"
forward
A/C- Ok, Old Air Products
Column- Ididit Tilt, column shifter
Auto- 700R4
Heads- stock iron, '69
Glide mounts- removed
Ground clearance-
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- good


Engine size: SBC
Brand & P/N: Patriot (Pertronix) H8025
Price: $185
605: Yes
3/4 Forward: Don't know
PB: Yes
R&P: Don't know
A/C: Yes (Vintage Air)
Column shift: No
Auto/Stick: Auto w/ floor shift probably OK. Stick-Don't know
Design: Intermediate length, 1 5/8" primaries, 2 1/2" collector
Heads: Will NOT fit angle plug heads
Glide mounts: Don't know
Side motor mounts: Yes
Oil filter access: Good
Ground clearance: Excellent

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Engine size: SBC
Brand & P/N: Hooker Competition, 2458
Price: Don't know
605: Yes
3/4 Forward: Don't know
PB: Yes
R&P: Don't know
A/C: Yes (Vintage Air)
Column shift: Yes
Auto/Stick: Auto yes. Stick-Don't know
Design: Full length, 1 5/8" primaries, 3" collector
Heads: Fit angle plug heads beautifully
Glide mounts: Don't know
Side motor mounts: Yes
Oil filter access: Good
Ground clearance: Poor! Hang 2 1/2" below frame.


Engine size- BBC
Brand & #- Earle Williams ceramic coated
Price- $819
605- cleared (used weld-on bracket)
3/4 forward- no dimple required
PB- Don't know
R&P- Don't know
A/C- Don't know
Column shift- Don't know
Auto- TH400 fit ok
Design- Full length 2" primary, 3.5" collector
Heads- angle, with raised ex. port (Brodix)
Glide mounts- Remove them
Side motor mounts- Yes, Earle Williams' 3/4" forward
Ground clearance- Excellent!! Nothing below frame, very nice tuck.
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- Marginal on passenger side, clearanced frame for peace of mind
Note: cleared 605 easily, but passenger side fit was very close, even moving engine TOWARD 605. My car must be a little odd.



Engine size- SBC Ram jet 350
Brand & #- Sanderson CC55 Ceramic coated block hugger shorty
Price- $375.00
605- plenty of clearance
3/4 forward- no problem stock or forward
PB- yes
A/C- yes
Column shift- Ididit
Auto/Stick- TH350 ok
Design- Short Block Hugger - 3" collector
Heads- Fit Vortec straight plug heads(specify)
Glide mounts- Remove them
Side motor mounts- Yes
Ground clearance- Excellent. Nothing below frame.
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- plenty



Engine size- 502 BBC
Headers - Brand - Williams Classic Chassis Works, Full length, 2" Primary, 3 1/2" coll. Price- $624 uncoated - will coat later
605- stock box - no clearance problems with engine centered
PB- Planning to install MC under the dash and remote booster in trunk
A/C- Will install Vintage Air
Muncie M22
Removed Tranny ears from frame
Side motor mounts moved about 1 1/4 forward (instead of 3/4") Brand - Williams Classic Chassis Works
Ground clearance- Excellent. Nothing below frame.
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- Had to heat and dimple #4 and #6 tubes to clear frame and #8 tube to clear Lakewood Scattershield
Oil Pan - Moroso from CCI, (no notch)
Tall Edelbrock Elite valve covers end just in front of firewall, but we are modifying firewall anyway for appearance
Clutch is a Centerforce Dual Friction - planning to get clutch linkage from Earle Williams
[This message has been edited by TC55 (edited 12-18-2002).]
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Engine size- BBC
Brand & #- THERMALTECH # T8023C
"THERMAL TECH COATED" http://www.thermaltechcoatings.com/new_headers.htm
Price- $375
605- ABOUT .030" CLEARANCE FROM 605 BOX
3/4 forward- ENGINE MOUNTS
PB- CLEARS
R&P- Don't know
A/C- CLEARS
Column shift- CLEARS
Auto/Stick- 700R4
Design- Full length 1 7/8"- 3" collector
Heads- CAST (STOCK GM) ALL PLUGS HAVE ACCESS
Glide mounts- Remove them
Side motor mounts- Yes 3/4" FORWARD
Ground clearance- Excellent. Nothing below frame.
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance-CLEARED BOTH SIDES WITHOUT DIMPLES ETC. HOWEVER I AM CONCERNED THAT THE PASS SIDE HEADERS WILL HIT THE FRAME UNDER HIGH ENGINE TORQUE.



Engine size- SBC
Brand & #- Hedman #68400 painted
Price- $109.00 Summit Racing
605- Don't Know
3/4 forward- Don't know, mine is stock front mount position
PB- Yes
R&P- Don't know
A/C- Don't know
Column shift- Yes
Auto/Stick- Yes
Design- Block Hugger- 2.5" collector
Heads- Fit angle (best fit) & straight plug heads
Glide mounts- Yes
Side motor mounts- Don't know but looks like it would be ok.
Ground clearance- Excellent. Nothing below frame.
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- Excellent
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Engine size- SBC
Brand & #-sanderson,C-56 coated
Price- don't know
605-yes,headers cleared box but not the pitman arm
stock engine location
PB- yes
R&P- no
Column shift- no
Auto trans th700r4
Design- 3/4 length,needs special collector adapter,not good for lowered car
Heads- Fit angle & straight plug heads
Glide mounts- Removed
Side motor mounts- Yes
Ground clearance- not the greatest
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- Marginal on passenger side


Engine size- SBC
Brand & #-Flow Tech Summit# BIG-49100
Price- 150.00
605-don't know,cleared stock box
stock location
PB- no
R&P- no
Column shift- no
Auto trans th350
Design- Full,unequal length
Heads- Trick flow 23*
Glide mounts- MUST be Removed
Side motor mounts- Yes CCI 2 pc frame
Ground clearance- great
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- #8 cylinder bolts tight



Engine size- SBC
Brand & #- Headman Elite, full length
Price- 320 Summitt
605- unknown, stock steering ok
3/4 forward- unknown
PB- Yes
R&P- Don't know
A/C- Don't know
Column shift- Don't know
Auto/Stick- TH350 or 400 ok, 4 speed ok
Design- Full length 1 3/4 x 30- 3" collector
Heads- Fit angle (best fit) & straight plug heads
Glide mounts- good clearance
Side motor mounts- unknown
Header bolts- tight, #7 inside need a bit of grinding
Ground clearance- Poor, hang below frame rail
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- good
Starter clearance- Good


SBC
Hooker Super Comps 2112-1 Ceramic coated
Small tink to clear stock steering box
Full length 1 3/4 x 30- 3" collector
AFR angle plug heads no problem
Bell Housing mounts- Remove them
Side motor mounts- Yes
Header bolts- very tight w/ 1 3/4 tube.
Ground clearance- Excellent. Nothing below frame.
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- Needed small tink on driver side
Starter clearance- Good



Engine size-SBC
Brand: Hooker Super Comps, ceramic coated, PN 2110
Price: approx $400
605: clears on seamless frame with very slight grind on box
3/4 forward: unknown, stock front mounts
PB: Yes
R&P: unknown
AC: OK w/ Alan Grove wide bracket
Column shift: unknown
Auto/stick: TH350/400 OK, 4-speed unknown
Design: 1-3/4 full length, 3" collector
Heads: Dart Pro 1 aluminum
Glide mounts: OK
Side mounts: not using but OK
Header bolts: tight, cyl #'s 1,2,7,8
Oil filter access: OK
Ground clearance: approx 4" below frame (retro look by design.)
Frame clearance: tight on passenger side, needed to remove approx 1/4" from idler arm mount bolt
Starter clearance: good


Engine 355
Brand & Model- Patriot H8025-1 Coated
Price- From Streetrodstuff $295 plus freight
Steering- Stock box- at least an inch clearance
PB- Yes
A/C - no problem
Design- Coated shortie;1 5/8 tubing, 3" collector
Heads-stock
Ground clearance- exceptional. Flange is above frame rails at the toe boards
Frame horns- will clear
Oil Filter Access- No problem
Plug Access- Have to use an end wrench on a couple of them. No worse than any other header
Appearance- Looks really good with the coating


year - 55
model - Belair HT
Engine - sb 350
trans - 4L60
ps - yes
pb - yes
R&P yes - Jim Meyer
coil over tubular A arms
front disc brakes
605 - no
Engine - front mounts
belhousing mounts
trans - tailhousing mount
Headers - Sanderson CC4 ceramic coated
price - $ 395.00
block hugger style
clearance good all around, clear R&P steering shaft
oil filter,and starter


Setup: 2 dr 1955 Chevy 210, with
1989 350 SBC engine (1 piece rear seal, etc..)
Stock steering box
Stock motor mounts (Front) <-for now
4 speed manual tranny

Headers used: Hooker Competition headers, model # HOK-2458, $159 from Summit Racing. Not coated.
Header type: Full length. Hang below frame.
Tube Size: 1 5/8 in. x 30 in.
Collector Size: 3 in.
Collector Length: 8 in.

Installation: Had to remove clutch z bar and steering idler arm to install headers. Simple out and back in.

Header mods: NONE. Fit perfect.

Regrets: Wish I had them coated. May pull them this winter and send them out.
For reference, Summit gets $329 for the coated version of this header.



engine--sbc
trans th350 soon to be 4L60 overdrive
Front clip from 69 camaro
p/s p/b saginaw
Headers Flowtec'S tri"Y"
Stainless tho not shiny full length
Cost 136.00 Summitt of Jeg's
Easy to install
Very good clearance



Engine size- 502 BBC
Brand & #- Earle Williams BBC Tri-5, uncoated
Price- $624 delivered
605- No steering box, front-steer Corvette R&P
1.5" forward, 1.25" up
PB- Yes
R&P- yes
Column shift- no
Auto/Stick- 6-speed
Design- Full length 2" primary- 3.5" collector
Heads- Aluminum GM Performance Products (Edelbrock)
Glide mounts- Remove them
Side motor mounts- Yes
Header bolts- Okay
Ground clearance- Excellent. Nothing below frame.
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- Great everywhere.
Starter clearance- Good


Earle Williams BBC Tri-5 headers clear both upper a-arm towers, and are well up inside of frame rails. Clear passenger frame rail by 3/4" and driver's side by 1/2". No interference with steering box - 'cuz there ain't none . Steering rack shaft needs to be double-jointed or steering column extended to intersect it.



Engine size- 350 Camaro LT1
Brand & #- Earle Williams SBC, coated
Price- $839 + O2 bung installation and freight
605- Had to grind the box about 1/8"
3/4" forward - stock OK too
PB- Yes
Column shift- no
Auto/Stick- 6-speed Camaro T56, any commonly used trans will fit. The stock z-bar will work too.
Design- Full length 1-3/4" primary - 3" collector
Heads- Stock LT1, Aluminum, D port and angle plug
Plug and plug wire clearance - excellent with the angle plug heads, will work fine with straight plugs too.
Side transmission mounts- Must be removed
Side motor mounts- Yes
Header bolts- Okay, pipes are dimpled for clearance.
Ground clearance- Excellent. Nothing below frame. If anything too high, the pipe will have a downward bend between collector and transmission crossmember. A much better problem to have than the opposite.
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- Great everywhere. Clears idler arm a mile.
Starter clearance- Good, any starter should work



406SBC, Vortec heads
Patriot P/N H8025-1 (Summit $299)
3/4 Ceramic Coated Header
1 5/8" primary
2 1/2" collectors
Engine stock location
Engine mounts Chassis Engineering side mounts
Stock Manual Steering box 1" clearance between header & box
Side Trans Mounts removed from frame
excellent fit


Engine size-383 Stroker,
Brand: S&S out of Phoenix, ceramic coated, ¾ length, 3” collectors
Price: $350+
605: clears on seamless frame
Engine Mount: stock position with side mounts, horns removed
PB: No, removed
R&P: No
AC: Vintage air
Column shift: unknown
Auto/stick: D&D T56 6 speed
Design:
Heads: Canfield Aluminum
Glide mounts: Unknown
Side mounts: Yes
Header bolts: no problems, locks worked on all but two bolts
Oil filter access: OK
Ground clearance: fit inside rails
Frame clearance: driver side close to Pitman arm, but doesn’t touch, Hits idler arm 1/8 inch before stop on A Frame is reached
Starter clearance: good

Contact problem occurred after installing Heidt tubular A frames uppers and lowers.






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1957_BelAir
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Reged: 11/26/02
Posts: 547
Loc: San Marcos, Texas Re: Header topic beat to death- it's time for a li [Re: Toms55]
#664775 - 12/14/03 06:25 PM







Engine size- BBC - 468 cu. in. with Brodix heads
Brand & #- Earl Williams Classics 4 into 1
Significant interference with stock manual box in stock location. This needed a heavy dimple to allow minimal clearance. I don't know how they work with a 605 box. I figured the steering box interference might be at least in part due to the Brodix heads.
Motor is 3/4 to 1 inch forward with Earl Williams side mounts
Manual mastercylinder - Yes
R&P- Not in my combination
A/C- No apparent issues
Column shift- Misses lever on stock column but I don't know about linkage from there to transmission as mine is manual.
Auto/Stick- OK with manual transmission but right side header has medium interference with Lakewood scattershield. Can be solved with moderate dimple or grinding of scattershield.
Design- Full length 2" tubes into 3 1/2" collector
Heads- Fit the Brodix heads OK. Big problem with access to spark plugs however. I have to drop the headers to get the plugs in and out.
Glide mounts- The original frame horns have to be removed.
Header bolts- Good access to the header bolts.
Ground clearance- Excellent. Nothing below frame. May tuck up a little too much as routing a 3" pipe off of the collectors interferes with Earl Williams transmission crossmember slightly.
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- Good
Starter clearance- Good
Comments - Nicely fabricated. Plug removal problems may be a function of the fitup with the Brodix heads, or may be a problem with stock type heads as well. Flanges had a warp on both sides when received, but seemed to pull up tight with out a leak problem. Manufacturer didn't understand that problem as he said they Blanchard grind the header flange after fabrication. An expensive header at $599 with out coating.


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bluesfella
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Reged: 04/07/03
Posts: 734
Loc: Tallahassee FL Re: Header topic beat to death- it's time for a list [Re: Steves55]
#680182 - 12/29/03 11:05 AM







Engine size- SBC
Brand & #- Patriot Tri-5 Ceramic Coated (PTE-H8025-1)
Price- $299 from Summit
605- stock box used, don't know about the 605 clearance
PB- Yep
R&P- Don't know
A/C- Yep
Column shift- cleared just fine
Auto/Stick- TH350, worked fine
Design- 3/4 length, 2 1/2 inch collector
Heads- straight plug heads
Glide mounts- should have removed them, but didn't. Still worked ok, but muffler shop had to bend pipes around them. Came out fine.
Side motor mounts- Yes
Header bolts- pretty tight fit for a few of them. Used locking header bolts, but had to trim a few of them to fit.
Ground clearance- Great. Nothing below frame.
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- good
Starter clearance- good

Stock box clearance:



Passenger side clearance:



Sorry the pics are a little dark, couldn't get any closer with that camera.


Note: the only problem I have with these headers is the pitman arm clearance. If I take the wheel to it's full stop, it does rub the header. I'm not going to dimple them, and it does not appear to affect the turning radius, so I'll leave it as is. I think if I swapped the pitman arm, it would clear just fine. (See this topic for details of what I'm talking about.

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'66 Pickup
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alans 55
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Posts: 3157
Loc: Lake Tanglewood, Texas Re: Header topic beat to death- it's time for a list [Re: Steves55]
#765123 - 03/15/04 04:55 PM







Engine size- SBC
Brand & #- Thermal-tech #T8025 (un-coated)T-8025C (coated)
Price- Direct from thermaltech $150.00 + $12.50 UPS
605- No mods needed, cleared box good
3/4 forward- No
PB- Yes
R&P- No
A/C- Not Yet
Column shift- No
Auto/Stick- 4 spd (clears stock clutch linkage)
3/4 length
Heads- stock sbc
Plugs- Close on 1 & 2
Glide mounts- Remove them
Side motor mounts- Yes
Header bolts- good
Ground clearance- Excellent. Nothing below frame.
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- good
Starter clearance- close
Hard left turn pitman arm hits. can live with it rather than dimpling tubes.
16 ga tubes- jegs/summitt 18ga
thick flanges.
workmanship excellent.
Collector should be 2 1/2" instead of 2" (easy fix tho')
They are patroits built for Thermal-Tech
Thermal-Tech Web Site

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fiftysixbowtie
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Reged: 04/10/03
Posts: 713
Loc: Plano, Texas Re: Header topic beat to death- it's time for a list [Re: Steves55]
#765974 - 03/16/04 11:56 AM







Year/model:'56 210 sedan
Engine: stock 350 SBC
Trans:Tremac 5-speed manual
P/B: no
P/S: no
R&P no
605 NO
Engine Mounts: Front mount
Trans Mount: Cross mount from OL55
Steering: stock rebuilt
Suspension: Stock with new Performance Suspension parts. AFCO rear shocks with coil overs and ladder bars
Rear end: 9" Ford
HEADERS: Hooker ceramic coated
PRICING: Don't know
Design: Don't know
Heads: Stock. Straight plugs.
Ground clearance: Excellent. Fit between frame rails Nothing below frame.
Oil filter access: good
Firewall clearence: Excellent
Fit and Finish: Excellent
Intallation Difficulty: Fair. Bolt closest to firewall was difficult to get to. I'm in the process of changing to a new smooth firewall so should be better when done.

Sorry I don't know more about the headers. They were on the car when I bought it.

John.

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Daily 150
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Reged: 05/20/04
Posts: 75
Loc: Idaho Re: Header topic beat to death- it's time for a list [Re: fiftysixbowtie]
#838886 - 05/21/04 05:30 AM







I hate to jump in on such an old thread, but I remember pulling lots of hair out trying to figure out what fits!

Engine size- SBC
Brand & #- Coated #T8025C Thermal-Tech
Price- $250
605- stock box used, don't know about the 605 clearance
PB- Manual, dual M/C-Fit great
R&P- Don't know
A/C- I wish I knew, one day I will put AC on
Column shift- cleared just fine
Auto/Stick- TH350, worked fine
Design- 3/4 length, 2 1/2 inch collector
Heads- 202 double hump worked fine
Glide mounts- should have removed them, but didn't. Still worked ok, but muffler shop had to bend pipes around them. Came out fine
Side motor mounts- No, Front motor mounts. I think I've got room for side mounts and these will still fit.
Header bolts- The ones that came with them worked fine for the past year.
Ground clearance- Great. Nothing below frame.
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- good
Starter clearance- good

A few notes: Pitman arm is about 1/8" from header with full Lt turn, but no problems over last year with DAILY full Lt and turns into garage. Plugs seem to fit the way I'd expect, but tight on #1. No problems with old non high temp boots, but I would get a good set of wires just to make sure. The old trany mounts were close, but a good muffler guy can fix this up. The box showed up from Thermal-Tech with the shipping label on it from Patriot still, so I guess we know who makes these now. The welding was great, material perfect, and the coating worth every cent. I've had these on for a year now and they still look just like the day I got them. The install was SUPER easy-they fell right into place! Just keep and eye on how easy the plugs are to install either before the headers or after the headers are put on.

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Lucky13
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Posts: 142
Loc: Poughkeepsie, NY, USA Re: Header topic beat to death- it's time for a li [Re: Steves55]
#888295 - 07/11/04 07:18 AM








 Header: Sanderson C56 - Cermanic coated
 Design: Mid length, 1 3/4" Primaries, 3" collector
 Engine: Small Block Chevy (GMPP ZZ3)
 Price: 450$ (Bought 2 pairs, discount)
 605: Good Clearance
 3/4 Forward: Don't know
 PB: Don't know
 R&P: Don't know
 A/C: Don't know
 Column shift: Don't know
 Auto/Stick:- Don't know
 Clutch Linkage: Yes
 Heads: Fits angle head plugs pefectly
 Glide mounts: Yes, collector flange stops just before/above them
 Side motor mounts: Don't know
 Header bolts: Good clearance - factory dimpled for better clearance (large 1 3/4" primaries)
 Ground clearance: Good, depends on how you transition the exhaust pipe from collector flange to clear bellhousing/glide mounts, if you have them
 Oil filter access: Tight, must use a shorter Fram filter
 Frame clearance: Good
 Starter clearance: Good
 Pitman arm clearance: Had to grind about 1/8" from pitman arm (to clear when steering full left turn)


Sanderson's Website
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#899776 - 07/22/04 02:09 AM







bringing it back to the top. bet we got some new ones on here and might answer some questions.

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#899893 - 07/22/04 04:03 AM







Header: Doug's - Cermanic coated
Design: Model # D356 1 5/8" Primaries, 2 1/2" collector
Engine: Small Block Chevy 383 Stock Heads
Price: $600.00
605: Yes
3/4 Forward: Yes
PB: Yes
R&P: Don't know
A/C: Yes
Column shift: No
Auto/Stick:- Yes
Clutch Linkage: Yes
Heads: Fits factory or angle heads
Glide mounts: No, had to remove them
Side motor mounts: Yes
Header bolts: Good clearance
Ground clearance: Shortie Design excellent ground clearance
Oil filter access: Good
Frame clearance: Good
Starter clearance: Good
Pitman arm clearance: Good, had to take an 1/4" off of the frame bolt.

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#1021568 - 11/19/04 02:06 AM







ttt

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#1065096 - 12/30/04 12:59 PM







^ tttt

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#1065240 - 12/30/04 03:12 PM







Engine size- SBC
Brand & #- Doug's Headers #D356 coated
Price- $635 shipped
605- unknown
Stock Steering Box - Yes
3/4 forward- Yes
PB- Yes
R&P- Don't know
A/C- Don't know
Column shift- Yes (Kugel)
Auto/Stick- 700R4
Design- 3/4 length 1 5/8 - 2 1/2" collector
Heads- Canfield Angle port
Glide mounts- I removed them
Side motor mounts- Yes
Header bolts- provided 6pt stainless worked fine
Ground clearance- Excellent. Nothing below frame.
Oil filter access- good
Frame clearance- Good
Starter clearance- Good

Had to cut 1/4" off of top bolt on idler arm.

Gene

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#1142042 - 03/08/05 03:23 AM







bumpy again

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#1187114 - 04/20/05 05:10 PM







Engine - SBC
Hooker Super Comp - 2112 painted(coated later)
Price - can't remember
605 box
Engine location - stock
PB - 9" dual diaphram
A/C - no
Column - Flaming river floor shift
Trans - TH350
Design - Full length 1-3/4" 3" collector
Heads - AFR 210, angle plugs
Glide Mounts - removed
Side motor mounts - yes
Header Bolts - ARP allen head, no problems
Ground clearance - Passenger above frame, driver 1" below
Oil filter access - good
Frame clearance - good
Starter clearance - good

Tight fit on steering box and idler arm top bolt. Must go in from the bottom up.

Kurt

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#1637996 - 10/11/06 05:14 AM







tttt

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#1638046 - 10/11/06 06:20 AM







Can we make this sticky? Otherwise, newer members won't know it even exists. Frankly, I had forgotten about it.

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#1638324 - 10/11/06 01:09 PM







please add a line on the list for car and model
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#1638328 - 10/11/06 01:15 PM







dtree, all 55-57s are the same as far as how the exhaust fits, the needed variables are already listed.
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#1638349 - 10/11/06 01:41 PM







Rick_L
I was just trying to help a few of the fellows that didn't know this, as in myself.
thank you
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#1638370 - 10/11/06 02:03 PM







Good luck on that. Others have suggested that same thing on this and other items that get continuously asked. Great idea though - I vote yes.

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#1638399 - 10/11/06 02:47 PM







Dtree, you're right, you don't know till you know. I hope knowing that helps. It's hard to find the right headers for all the situations and budgets out there.

Nick, I think the post was sticky at one time, I wonder how it lost that status.
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#1638414 - 10/11/06 03:05 PM







Dunno Rick, seems like I recall that 2, now that u mentioned it.

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#1638419 - 10/11/06 03:14 PM







Has anyone tried to put this info into a table format? Would that be useful? I'd be willing to do that, but where would it be posted? Is excel a good format to use? That would be easy to update, maybe convert to a pdf file and post that?
Willy
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#1638627 - 10/11/06 07:30 PM







It was a sticky at one time. When the site got hacked- I lost 7,000 posts. Look at my screen name in beginning of thread. The page disappeared after the hack.

I can sticky it again if you want

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07-29-16 03:19 PM - Post#2642444    
    In response to Nick P

Thank you Nick!!

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07-29-16 03:22 PM - Post#2642446    
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I copied this years ago to word, wasn't certain how complete it was. Hope it helps



 

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