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DonSSDD 
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07-07-16 07:45 AM - Post#2638308    

Donny, I got an AA part from Show Cars, their part #8149. The switch has a ridge at the bottom that is not on my original. The ridge keeps the switch from sliding down onto the pipe inside the column. I have 2 old switches that are the same, no ridge. Any idea why the ridge is there?
I can likely remove it and still use the part, but I thought I'd ask what you thought of this.
Thanks,
Don
The old:

The new


63 Pontiac Parisienne Sport Coupe(CDN Chev mechanically (409, 4 speed),62 Bel Air SC (sold), 59 El Camino (sold), 62 Bel Air SC(sold), 63 SWC Vette (sold),
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aawtech 
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07-07-16 04:45 PM - Post#2638378    
    In response to DonSSDD

  • DonSSDD Said:
Donny, I got an AA part from Show Cars, their part #8149. The switch has a ridge at the bottom that is not on my original. The ridge keeps the switch from sliding down onto the pipe inside the column. I have 2 old switches that are the same, no ridge. Any idea why the ridge is there?
I can likely remove it and still use the part, but I thought I'd ask what you thought of this.
Thanks,
Don
The old:

The new




Don, I don't see what you are talking about, but I can tell you that if that is our 898197US switch, it's made from the original GM GUIDE tool, so it is spot-on. Sell hundreds every year, never an issue. What are you trying to put it in? Is it an Impala, or is it a Parisienne? I only ask as they may be different.

Donny




 
DonSSDD 
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07-07-16 06:02 PM - Post#2638398    
    In response to aawtech

The old part came out of a 63 Impala and the opening on the back side is larger than your new one, by about 1/10th of an inch. I was switching out the PG Parisienne column for an Impala 4 speed column. The one in the Parisienne, which I took out after posting here, was actually closer in size to your part. I filed your part down a bit and it fits fine now.
On the new part, you can see a ridge on the outer edge and then another ridge on the inner edge, the old Impala one had no ridge at all on the outer edge. I never checked it for a part number. The column part that holds the switch has the same stamped GM part number on the Parisienne PG and on the Impala one by the way.

Thanks for the reply.

Don

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07-07-16 08:21 PM - Post#2638416    
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  • DonSSDD Said:
The old part came out of a 63 Impala and the opening on the back side is larger than your new one, by about 1/10th of an inch. I was switching out the PG Parisienne column for an Impala 4 speed column. The one in the Parisienne, which I took out after posting here, was actually closer in size to your part. I filed your part down a bit and it fits fine now.
On the new part, you can see a ridge on the outer edge and then another ridge on the inner edge, the old Impala one had no ridge at all on the outer edge. I never checked it for a part number. The column part that holds the switch has the same stamped GM part number on the Parisienne PG and on the Impala one by the way.

Thanks for the reply.

Don



Interesting. I have never heard a single complaint on the US switch, now the Taiwan one is a different story. Do you know which one you purchased Don? Just curious. I will run it by the tech guys tomorrow and see if they have ever heard of your issue. As I said, that is the original GM GUIDE tooling.

Donny




 
DonSSDD 
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07-08-16 03:00 AM - Post#2638443    
    In response to aawtech

I have the package somewhere. It had a torx screw holding the signal cam on, if that tells you anything.

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07-08-16 06:33 AM - Post#2638482    
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  • DonSSDD Said:
I have the package somewhere. It had a torx screw holding the signal cam on, if that tells you anything.



Not really, no. Please try and get me the package or the invoice. Do you remember where you got it and when? We've been selling only the US versions for a while lately.

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DonSSDD 
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07-11-16 04:12 PM - Post#2639168    
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Sorry Donny, I can't locate the package. I got it from Show Cars about a month ago, they said it was an American Autowire one and also that they had not had any issues with any others. Its in the car now so I'm fine too.
Don

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07-11-16 06:47 PM - Post#2639204    
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  • DonSSDD Said:
Sorry Donny, I can't locate the package. I got it from Show Cars about a month ago, they said it was an American Autowire one and also that they had not had any issues with any others. Its in the car now so I'm fine too.
Don



OK, It's all good Don. Just trying to dig a bit deeper and figure this out. Strange. Never have an issue with them. Checked with a couple of the tech guys and checked the RMA file today. Nothing there. Oh well?

Donny




 
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09-07-16 07:10 AM - Post#2649956    
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Now have wiring sorted out except I have a rear signal light issue.

The signal lights work on both sides, but when I turn them off, the right rear one only keeps flashing. The signal light on the front is not flashing, nor is the indicator light in the dash, just the rear bulb. What could cause this?
Don

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09-07-16 10:37 AM - Post#2649976    
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  • DonSSDD Said:
Now have wiring sorted out except I have a rear signal light issue.

The signal lights work on both sides, but when I turn them off, the right rear one only keeps flashing. The signal light on the front is not flashing, nor is the indicator light in the dash, just the rear bulb. What could cause this?
Don



Don, you need to get a test light and go to the turn signal connection, and activate things.

Here are the ID's:

1. purple is output to the RR
2. pink is output to the LR
3. dk. blue is output to the RF
4. lt. blue is output to the LF
5. yellow is input from the flasher
6. white is input from the brake switch

Put the key "on", and put the L turn signal on. Should have voltage on the yellow, pink, and light blue. Repeat by putting the R turn signal on. Should have voltage on the yellow, purple, and dark blue.

Let me know what you have.

Donny




 
DonSSDD 
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09-08-16 02:34 AM - Post#2650083    
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My left turn signal light only works at the moment if I hold it in place. I am trying to get my lights working before getting the wheel and column settled.

I do have no brake lights, haven't checked the voltage at the brake light switch yet, in case that is relevant. My parking light and tail lights work fine.

I checked voltage as per above, when flashing, all connections are showing voltage all over the map, from .4 to over 12V, no consistency at all.

All lights worked fine before I took the column out, I just reconnected everything to the original connections.

Don

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09-08-16 11:17 AM - Post#2650168    
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  • DonSSDD Said:
My left turn signal light only works at the moment if I hold it in place. I am trying to get my lights working before getting the wheel and column settled.

I do have no brake lights, haven't checked the voltage at the brake light switch yet, in case that is relevant. My parking light and tail lights work fine.

I checked voltage as per above, when flashing, all connections are showing voltage all over the map, from .4 to over 12V, no consistency at all.

All lights worked fine before I took the column out, I just reconnected everything to the original connections.

Don



Don all that switch does is direct voltage from point A to B. That is why I was very specific in my directions. You really need to be very specific in what you have at both sides of that connection. If you have good brake voltage at the dash side of the connection, then at the switch side (white wire), but inconsistent on the yellow and dk. green wires, there's an issue inside that switch. The fact that the switch has never really settled into the switch housing properly from the beginning leads me to believe that may be where the problem is.

Don, I don't mean to sound as though I'm talking down to you, so please do not take it that way. Just trying to be very specific. You and I have talked on here numerous times, so hopefully, you understand that!

Donny




 
DonSSDD 
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09-08-16 11:49 AM - Post#2650173    
    In response to aawtech

Donny, no hurt feelings here at all, I trust you know way more about this than I do and I know there is something wrong here.

What I did is check each of the wires on the female side of the 2 connectors, which is the new connectors from the steering column, with the signal light switch in left and right. I should probably call you, what number can I reach you at during the day?

Don

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09-08-16 02:38 PM - Post#2650200    
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  • DonSSDD Said:
Donny, no hurt feelings here at all, I trust you know way more about this than I do and I know there is something wrong here.

What I did is check each of the wires on the female side of the 2 connectors, which is the new connectors from the steering column, with the signal light switch in left and right. I should probably call you, what number can I reach you at during the day?

Don



I am on a special project and am tough to reach. 856-933-0801 ext. #216, between 3-4 PM only.

Donny




 
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