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Username Post: Help identifying color 1972 Monte Carlo        (Topic#332524)
BlueNote 
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01-27-16 12:24 PM - Post#2604786    

Hi guys,

I'm trying to track down the color of the vehicle in the photo. This pic was taken in spring, 1979. The car itself is a 1972 Monte. What I can recall about the car was that it was a very dark, almost navy blue color and the interior was a navy blue vinyl which was just outstanding to sit on in shorts during the summer. Even through the photo has yellowed with age, the house in the background is the right color, as is the winter grass of the lawn. The car was not black.

I've looked through the paint code charts online and the closest factory color for this vehicle seems to be Mulsanne Blue, but when I look at modern pics of cars painted that color, it almost seems to be a brighter royal type blue.

Any ideas? I've been looking on again/ off again for a good example of this vehicle in the color in the photo for awhile, but I can't seem to find the Monte in navy blue. Ideas? Thanks!

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1972 Monte Carlo




 




knightfan2691 
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01-31-16 12:53 PM - Post#2605648    
    In response to BlueNote

Well, 1st, if that is, indeed, a 1972 model, the front end was replaced ... which might explain the paint issue.

That front end is for a 1971 MC.

Among other variances:
1970 models had circular turn signal lights in the front bumper.
1971 models had rectangular-horizontal turn signal lights in the front bumper (as in the pic you posted)
1972 models had rectangular-vertical turn signal lights (with the MC knight emblem on them) on either end of the grill

I don't know if you checked color charts just for the 1972 model, but if so, you might now check 1971 color charts, if that is a 1971 model.

Although ... is it possible the car was repainted prior to the picture?


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BlueNote 
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02-01-16 02:33 PM - Post#2605994    
    In response to knightfan2691

  • knightfan2691 Said:
Well, 1st, if that is, indeed, a 1972 model, the front end was replaced ... which might explain the paint issue.




I think you may be correct in that it's a '71. I assumed a '72 because that's when it was purchased. But this very well may have sat on the lot for awhile before it sold for all I know. Still, the darkest blue for '71 Montes was Mulsane Blue, which is quite a bit brighter than the navy blue on the car. Now, the '71 Chevelles had a navy blue color and I wonder if a person could have ordered a Monte with that color on it, as I have seen numerous photos of navy blue Montes, including in Chevy's own brochure.



 
BlueNote 
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02-04-16 09:23 AM - Post#2606633    
    In response to BlueNote

Here's a copy of the brochure. Car in the pic is a navy blue, but it doesn't say in the caption what color it is either.

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1971 monte brochure




 
knightfan2691 
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02-07-16 12:44 PM - Post#2607267    
    In response to BlueNote

  • BlueNote Said:
Now, the '71 Chevelles had a navy blue color and I wonder if a person could have ordered a Monte with that color on it, as I have seen numerous photos of navy blue Montes, including in Chevy's own brochure.



I'm thinking that's what happened ... the color was special ordered due to the brochure pic. Back then, I know you could order special "color delete" (or whatever they were called) options ... & then order a different color. The dark blue in that brochure isn't all that surprising to me, given that, for 1970, documentation included raising & lowering the convertible top ... which the MC never had from factory.


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Aaron70Monte 
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03-03-16 05:50 PM - Post#2612918    
    In response to knightfan2691

Here are the colours available for the Monte Carlo. Mulsanne blue was definitely not that dark. That car was either repainted or it was special ordered that colour. There are a couple dark blues that were available on other Chevys so it may have been special ordered with one of those colours.

http://www.firstgenmc.com/tech/paintcodes.shtml

As for the brochure, it is very misleading. The photo used was actually a B&W photo of a 1970 Monte but was altered and coloured for the 71 brochure. Certainly does not replicate any colour that was optional for a Monte Carlo.

Aaron
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Edited by Aaron70Monte on 03-03-16 05:53 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
wagonman100 
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03-14-16 06:55 PM - Post#2615416    
    In response to Aaron70Monte

Yes you could special order colors. My '72 was special ordered black. I alway wondered why the build sheet on my car said special order. I found out years ago that black was actually not offered on the Monte Carlo in '72.

Jay
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1972 Monte Carlo
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BlueNote 
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04-15-16 10:32 AM - Post#2621843    
    In response to wagonman100

Thanks for all of the great information, guys. The search for a vehicle like the one in the photo above continues, but now I just know how realistic it will be to find one just like it.



 
elcamino 
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04-25-16 09:09 AM - Post#2624173    
    In response to BlueNote

GM Special Paint info from web site discussions by Jim Mattison (former COPO office at Chevrolet) and owner of Pontiac Historical Services.

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During the years that I was a part of this group, we processed many orders for vehicles with special paint. Although these vehicles were ordered with "special paint", they are not considered to be COPO cars. I'm surprised that more of these "special paint" cars haven't shown-up, as many of these orders were for performance cars.

First, back in the late 60s and early 70s anyone could order their new Chevy with a special color. Literally any color under the rainbow was available, except for the Cadillac Fire mist colors. The Cadillac Firemist colors were excluded due to them having such a course metallic. These colors needed to be sprayed through a special paint gun. Even on a Cadillac, the Firemist paint was quite a costly option!

The pricing for a solid color "Special Paint" would vary between no charge and $125.00. Volume would dictate the pricing.

If the customer was a fleet account, or if the dealer would order multiple vehicles in the same color, the pricing would be n/c. However, if the dealer would order a single unit, the pricing could go as high as $125, with various prices in between, based on many other factors.

Some of the other conditions that would require a car order to come through my group was: "Delete Stripes" on a Z-28, Chevelle SS, or other model with painted stripes. Colors that were current production, but on a different model, would also require our approval. We did lots of cars in "Hugger Orange" that normally didn't come in that color as n/c. Also, you wouldn't believe the number of Chevrolets that were painted the popular 1968-69 Pontiac color, "Verdoro Green"! I even remember a fair number of cars being ordered in the 1970 Chrysler color "Plum Crazy"!

It's too bad that I can't get to the Supercar Reunion this year and answer many of your questions in person. It would be so much easier to explain in more detail. However, with the production on the F-body coming to a close, GM has me scheduled to go to the Corvette Museum and represent both Chevy and Pontiac on the same weekend at the Camaro-Firebird Gathering, in Bowling Green, Kentucky.

Jim Mattison PHS




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Belair-o 
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04-26-16 06:30 AM - Post#2624389    
    In response to BlueNote

I know you describe the car as dark blue. FWIW, my Mom had a 72 Monte that was a dark green - looks to me like that is the color of the car in the first pic, especially since you say the other colors in the pic are true. Was a very attractive color on the car, IMHO.
Regards, Doug



 




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