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Username Post: 57 Nomad Project        (Topic#330643)
kwhizz 
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11-20-15 02:22 PM - Post#2590322    

A little history on this car.........The first Power Tour we went on was in 2005.....Started in Milwaukee and ended in Orlando.....There was a group of guy's that flew in from Australia to do the tour.....They flew into L.A. and bought this car and drove to Milwaukee....We got to meet them at a Party in Milwaukee before the Tour started.......LOL.....Wild group and a lot of fun........So......while in Milwaukee, the owner of the car met and got a girlfriend ......So.....After the Tour he drove the car back to the Milwaukee area to be with her..........He sold the car to a friend of mine in July of 05......Floyd had the car 10 years and kept it in a heated climate controlled environment........Labor Day weekend we were at a car show and noticed Floyd had the Car for Sale.......The rest is history......The car is a perfect California rust free piece that was gone thru in the early 2000's and built to what was normal back then.........LOL.....Just a couple weird things about the build back then......obviously the builder didn't want the A/C condenser in front of the polished radiator......so .....it was mounted parallel to the road behind the front bumper with an Electric fan blowing air thru it when required........except mounted in that position while driving down the highway it didn't work too good.....LOL........the other thing is with the Condenser mounted in that position ......there wasn't any room for the front sway bar........so......the car was a little wishy washy going down the road......all soon to be corrected along with a LSA drivetrain transplant..........So......Here we go again.........


Picture of when we picked up the car from Floyd





Pic's of the car























More pic's to follow later


Ken




 

kwhizz 
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11-20-15 05:26 PM - Post#2590359    
    In response to kwhizz

A little more info and Pic's..........The car has 4 wheel power Disc brakes and a 9" Ford rear axle assy with all new parts in it.......3:55 Posi......So....That part of the build is already completed.......Parts are starting to show up for the conversion.....new Nomad Gas tank to be modified for the GM ZL1 Fuel Pump.....Holley 302-1 Pan and gasket showed up.....also received a repro original looking Wonderbar Radio all set-up for Satelite etc........and I ordered a new LSA / 4l85E connect and cruise drivetrain from GM today.......That should arrive next week......Here are some pic's from under the car to show the rust free condition......































 
WagonCrazy 
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Loc: So Cal
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11-20-15 07:01 PM - Post#2590371    
    In response to kwhizz

Looks like you got a winner there! Congrats.


57 Nomad -LS1 with C4 suspension
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kwhizz 
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11-21-15 08:49 AM - Post#2590472    
    In response to WagonCrazy

Here's a picture of the front suspension.........Maybe adding some good shocks, but that's about all





Here's how the A/C condenser was mounted behind the front bumper....








Even though the trans fluid went thru the Radiator cooler....it was still run into this air cooler mounted behind the bumper with minimum air flow.......Gone......








Gone..........





There is now room for a sway bar............








Ken




 
ed72073 
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11-21-15 11:39 AM - Post#2590522    
    In response to kwhizz

Didn't take you long on moving forward with the transplant. I will be following this closely as I have a 56 that I will be help doing in the near future.

Nice Nomad!



 
knightfan2691 
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11-21-15 12:03 PM - Post#2590530    
    In response to ed72073

Holy cow, Ken ... awesome Nomad with a cool history behind it. Congratulations!


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kwhizz 
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11-22-15 09:21 AM - Post#2590737    
    In response to knightfan2691

Did some more dis-assembly ......getting ready for the new drivetrain that will be arriving next week.......and parts are starting to arrive (I like to plan in advance so when I start .....I can keep going).........as you can see, when it was built, it was built with all the good stuff !!!





















Holley #302-1 Oil Pan arrived








Heat Exchanger







 
kwhizz 
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11-22-15 12:06 PM - Post#2590779    
    In response to kwhizz

I also received my new Wonder Bar Radio.......AM/FM Stereo /Sirius/Bluetooth...........Modern stuff to keep up with the drivetrain......LOL









But.......This car just amazes me.....can't wait to get the "Old" drivetrain and clean this old "Beater" up..........Just happened to spray some cleaner on the frame and wipe it off.............."WOWZA".........Look at this.......







 
cnbell 
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11-23-15 10:10 AM - Post#2590999    
    In response to kwhizz

Great story, looking forward to watching the build...

First time I've seen an ac condenser mounted under the splash pan !

Craig

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kwhizz 
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11-24-15 05:57 PM - Post#2591322    
    In response to cnbell

A couple of neat things about this car..........whoever built the car in California originally did a great job with the install of the engine/trans..........the frame engine mounts are a work of Art.......and the trans has a tubular trans mount and frame mounts installed very professionally.........Gonna save a lot of fabrication and installation time getting the new drivetrain in..........Ended up very carefully taking the core support out........Pulled the headers off (Glad I never had to change the Spark Plugs on this puppy)..........dropped the trans out and then pulled the engine..........Now I can get the engine compartment Sparkling again.......

























 
kwhizz 
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11-25-15 03:24 PM - Post#2591518    
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Got a few more parts today.......The new A/C condenser arrived along with the LSA fuel pump......The Pump and Nomad tank will be a little project from the other pumps I have modified, .....I had to make them shorter to match the depth of the Tanks.......This one I have to make it longer to work in the Nomad tank which is approx. 12" deep.........And....since the Engine is out I did a quick clean-up of the engine compartment...........Again.....Great Job by the person who originally built this car.....The new engine didn't make it to the shop today.........Gonna have to wait till next Monday now........I can do some serious cleaning now .................Happy Thanksgiving to All!!!!!













 
kwhizz 
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11-27-15 06:19 PM - Post#2591913    
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While waiting for the drivetrain to show up.........I have just been cleaning things.......Again.....What a car.....Just gonna make it LSA "Better"........Before and after on the rims .....then a shot of the engine compartment again......A couple of things that will be changed is I realized that the 9" Ford rear end in the car is an open rear end.......Posi-unit on the To Do List.........And since this car was built roughly 15 years ago......I think I am going to update the A/C system in the Dash to a newer version with the Electronic controls.......Gonna order a Kwik Performance Alternator/Power Steering Pump unit and get that part put to bed.....As you can see in the pic's also......Floyd just recently installed the Wilwood Brake system all around.......The Drivetrain should be delivered next Monday............












 
kwhizz 
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11-30-15 05:32 PM - Post#2592542    
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So..........I called today to check on the delivery of the drivetrain.......It hadn't been shipped from GM yet.....It seems they are out of stock of the Engine controller kits.......So we asked to ship everything less the controller as that's the last thing I to install......So it will be shipped tomorrow......I also ordered a new Electronic controlled Vintage Air Evaporator Kit.......Also got a bunch of Dakota Digital stuff ordered..........VHX Gauges.....Clock.....Fan Controller.......GPS Speedometer module.......Got a little more dis-assembly accomplished........

Look at the detail that the original builder put into the car.....Firewall pad....



Old Radio coming out...............



Old A/C unit out..............





Sitting a little high in the front ............LOL





 
kwhizz 
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12-03-15 02:50 PM - Post#2593138    
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Still waiting for the Drivetrain to show up.......In anticipation of the new A/C set-up showing up.....I removed the Heater controls as they will be converted over to electronic controls.......I also removed the Gauge housing as I ordered all Dakota Digital gauges.......the gauge housing was chrome plated at some time in it's past and the chrome sort of faded away in some area's.......so....I'm going to paint it back to original.....sent the housing and the lower steering column cover out to the plater to get the chrome stripped off......then off to the paint shop for paint.....All the Dakota Digital stuff showed up today.......With the cluster out that gives me access to get the wiring all straightened out..........




























 
cnbell 
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12-04-15 09:30 AM - Post#2593293    
    In response to kwhizz

Nice gauge set up...

Craig

http://www.picturetrail.com/cnbell


 
kwhizz 
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12-10-15 05:45 PM - Post#2594731    
    In response to cnbell

Been gone for a week.....But..... When we got back a lot of "Stuff" showed up.......The new Vintage Air unit showed up....and the Drivetrain got here also......I ordered the GM "LSA Connect and Cruise " set-up.....As I was going thru the boxes with all the new parts........I noticed that the Torque Converter was a reconditioned unit..........WTF...... Anyhow.......Things will start to move again......Here are a bunch of Pic's ...........
























 
kwhizz 
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12-13-15 01:42 PM - Post#2595258    
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I finally got the engine home (Thanks Gary !!).........So, the first thing I did was to swap out the stock oil pan for the Holley 302-1 pan.........Gotta love the new gasketing systems........a heck of a lot better than the old cork and rubber leakers......LOL...While changing the Pan I noticed that GM left out a plug in the block that was meant for the Integral Oil pan Oil Cooler .......The engine didn't come with that cooler so I don't understand why they didn't put it in.....not a big deal, but I had to order one and it mounts behind the motor mount adaptor plate and the motor mounts....so...If I install the engine and it just happens to work out that everything fits......I would have to take back out again to put that stupid plug in.......So....I started getting the new A/C system ready for install....then in looking at the original wiring and fuse panel under the dash, I decided to basically rewire the car and get away from the Glass Fuse system.........I was amazed at how simple the original fuse panel is with limited fusing and circuits.........I will leave the rear body harness alone and rewire the rest using an American Autowire Classic update system.........Oh Well........I have to do it correctly......with the dual fan set-up for cooling and the Intercooler pump,Fuel Pump and everything else that go's with the new drivetrain.......it just makes sense.......Also....I sent the dash cluster out for stripping of the Chrome.....It's stripped, now I need to get it painted for the Dakota Digital Gauge install.......






















 
kwhizz 
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12-15-15 06:02 PM - Post#2595731    
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While waiting for the new wiring kit to arrive I converted the stock heater controls over to the Vintage Air electronic set-up......I could have installed the A/C unit but I figured it would have gotten in the way while rewiring....also while the engine was out.....I noticed that the frame mounts that were welded in by the original builder were not parallel to each other......and I noticed that the rubber engine mounts had taken a set to the angle being out of position........I figured that since it worked before...........LOL.......As you can see in the pictures the engine fits in the 57 perfectly with the stock Camaro exhaust manifolds .........got Lucky.....Till I went to put the motor mount bolts in...........Close but no cigar.........Gonna pull the engine back out and cut the mounts out and do it correctly..........Just can't put it together in that "Bind" condition.........


Stock Heater controller





with the Electronic conversion






























 
kwhizz 
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12-17-15 04:31 PM - Post#2596194    
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Things are moving from the waiting for "Stuff" mode to the Get'r Done mode.......... Thanks to Donny Bock at American Autowire I now have the right stuff to upgrade the Nomad......


We are going to replace the "Old" with the "New"











Then........It's kind of hard to see how far out the frame mounts are......I made the Aluminum Jig to the 16.5" centerline as required and the mounts are way out.......I cut them out and will modify them correctly......








Also.....after test fitting the engine in the car.......It became apparent that my plan to mount the A/C compressor down low like I did in the Chevelle just wasn't going to work.......Darn......Mounting the compressor up high on a LSA engine is not that simple.........so.........I decided to bite the Bullet and buy a Concept 1 front drive system.........and with this system I had to remove the front snout assy from the engine so I can send it to Lingenfelter to get a new Hub installed on the Supercharger shaft for the Concept 1 Pulley......











Here we go............




 
kwhizz 
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12-25-15 11:00 AM - Post#2597618    
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I finally got the motor mount situation corrected.......Lets just say the old engine fit.......but it wasn't correct....I cut out the mounts and basically raised the mount position 1/4" to give me a little more pan clearance and made the mounts the same height relative to the frame (there was 3/16 difference)........I welded the spacer plate to the cut off mount......used my Jig and bolted the mounts in ......after everything checked out I welded them in......Side story........I have a good 110 volt Miller wire welder and got an education about extension cords......LOL.......I now have a new 12 Gauge wire one in the garage.........."I are Smart" now.........








Cleaned and painted the mounts and put the engine back in.......Fits "Perfect".......Still waiting for the Supercharger "snout" to come back from Lingenfelter with the pulley mod for the Concept 1 Front Drive set-up......So...I started the wiring process with American Autowire Classic update kit ....Here are some pic's

























 
kwhizz 
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12-28-15 05:18 PM - Post#2598279    
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In retrospect..........I can't even imagine trying to get all the electrical power required for this conversion thru the stock fuse panel.....Thanks to Donny Bock at AAW for pushing me into the rewire....In the mean time I have a good portion of all the wires run ......the mass of wires in earlier pictures are now in place and just need to be zip tied in place after getting the Dakota Digital modules wired and in place........I also have the new A/C unit installed under the dash and everything wired......the Supercharger snout should be coming back from Lingenfelter next week and the new front drive should be showing up also.....I also did some checking on Transmission dimensions and it looks like I have to move the trans mount back 3 1/2" on the frame from where the 700R4 was........Time to move the car's around and get the 57 up on the lift ........









 
cnbell 
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12-30-15 10:12 AM - Post#2598703    
    In response to kwhizz

Good choice, the AAW kit is a great upgrade.

The old wire & panel aren't worth the aggravation.

Craig

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kwhizz 
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12-30-15 08:32 PM - Post#2598854    
    In response to cnbell

A little update......Still waiting for the new Front Drive to show up,...The Supercharger snout is still at Lingenfelter Performance for mod's....and the stock dash gauge housing was sent out for stripping to get the chrome off and ready for paint.....that will be painted and ready for final assy in the Dash next week ....so.....After finishing up the basic wiring under the dash.......the next big wiring issue is getting the Dakota Digital modules in and wired........there are three modules....the main VHX module......the Fan Control module.........and the GPS Speedometer module........Got everything hooked up and decided to take the Speedometer module out of the box and plug it in........ The Voltmeter guy does it again....Got Lucky (so Far) as the basic functions even work........LOL















 
kwhizz 
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12-31-15 11:03 AM - Post#2598995    
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Got a few things buttoned up today.........Got the modern Wonder Bar radio installed.....am/fm stereo, Sirius, Bluetooth........Neet !!!.....Also go some neat Speakers and Tweeters that are matched to the system.....I also got all the OEM converted Heat/ AC controls in and finished all the internal wiring....dash lights are all hooked up also......Time for a Nap!!!










 
kwhizz 
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01-02-16 02:36 PM - Post#2599541    
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I finished off a lot of little details on the inside of the car that take time, but don't show well with pictures.........I have all of the wiring for the A/C unit completed........also got the front and rear speakers all wired up and installed.......I bought some custom autosound kick panels that were set up for speakers.........I ordered them without the speakers as I already bought my own.....Killer sound system.......Now I'm back into the waiting mode for more parts to show up....But...The break in the action was good because I had the time to get all the wiring details wrapped up.......also got additional courtesy lighting under the dash installed and finished.......





 
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01-04-16 05:42 AM - Post#2599861    
    In response to kwhizz

Wow,you are really crankin it out!Looks great!
Rick



 
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01-05-16 10:42 AM - Post#2600135    
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Lookin Good!



 
kwhizz 
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01-06-16 03:47 PM - Post#2600390    
    In response to streetrods

Just to get everything up to date...........I ordered a Concept 1 Front Drive set-up, and with this set-up........I had to take the snout off the supercharger and send it off to Lingenfelter Performance for modifications that are required for the new Pulley set-up.........So......I have been waiting for these items to arrive.........the Snout arrived today so I put the unit back together.....Hopefully the front drive itself will show up later this week..........
















 
kwhizz 
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01-09-16 04:19 AM - Post#2600798    
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Here's a picture trail on the progress on the dash cluster.........When I got the car is had faded chrome on the cluster and the lower column cover......I sent them out and had the chrome stripped, then along with the cluster and cover I also sent the ash tray and glove box door to Puleras for painting...........the guy's at Puleras hit a home run again as far as matching the paint and the quality of the work done.........picked up the parts yesterday and installed the Dakota Digital VHX Gauges.....














 
kwhizz 
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01-09-16 05:29 AM - Post#2600804    
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Now we get to the part I have been worried about..........Getting the 4L85E transmission into the car.....Get the car up on the lift and the moment of truth.......5 minutes later the trans is bolted in place with no issues at all.......plenty of clearance all around.......the 57 has an extremely large trans tunnel.........the Trans mount even bolted in place with two of the existing bolt holes.....But....After looking at the relation between the engine and the firewall, I may move the engine forward 1/2" to give the engine harness a little more room.........gonna check it out a little closer today...........















 

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