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Username Post: 2ndtime50guy --- 2 door 1950 Styleline Deluxe        (Topic#309930)
Keith_Knox 
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07-15-18 09:04 PM - Post#2740130    
    In response to 2ndtime50guy

You made it in time for the reunion, with a change of direction toward the end of the build. Congratulations.

1948 Chevy Fleetmaster Coupe Purchased 6/2010. Stock with rebuilt 52 216 installed May 1966.
1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup, stock. Purchased 11/18/17.
1962 Ranchero Purchased 4/2017 221 V8 Automatic.
2013 F150 Crew Cab


 
2ndtime50guy 
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07-16-18 07:29 PM - Post#2740220    
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Thank you Keith. I am blown away by the progress we made. I look at the setbacks of May with the outer trunk floor and rear quarter and shake my head in disbelief. I had officially thrown in the towel and somehow recovered in all of this. And then the bad news on the frame... but God is good...and I know I don't deserve this blessing. Tonight my son helped me install the rear windshield. The gasket got here two days early! He did good. I'm very proud of him! I am more than blessed.
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Edited by 2ndtime50guy on 07-16-18 07:30 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
raycow 
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07-16-18 09:22 PM - Post#2740229    
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Can you get the stainless trim into the gasket groove after the gasket is installed on the car?

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
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07-17-18 10:44 AM - Post#2740279    
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Not really, but I think Tim is getting first timer safe to drive for upcoming reunion, then will dissemble to install on second timers frame, etc, I'm not sure if glass is planned to be removed, but might be safest way to prevent breakage during body swap and the twisting that will take place in that process.
My2 cents
Bill

Bill Wilson 50 styleline deluxe 2 door sold,- 51 styleline Deluxe 2 door ,'56 235 with dual carter webers on an Offenhauser intake, Fenton headers, 56 chevy rear end and 700R4 transmission.


 
raycow 
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07-17-18 12:40 PM - Post#2740297    
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I never even thought about the possibility of glass breakage during the course of a body swap. Thank you for mentioning that.

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
2ndtime50guy 
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07-17-18 03:12 PM - Post#2740321    
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No, but I intentionally left the stainless out for now. The windshields will both come back out after the reunion for the frame off restoration. I didn't think putting the stainless on the car for the reunion was worth the time and headache. Edit: And yes, as Bill has mentioned, everything is coming back apart before the frame swap. There will be no glass in the body at that time. I am also removing all the extra weight (doors and trunk lid) and welding in internal bracing. The plan is to take the next six months slowly, dismantling 1st timer, restoring the 2nd timer frame, researching my lift options, adding structural supports in the garage, fabricating a rotisserie from two four-wheeled engine stands, and safely getting both of those steering wheels loose without destroying them. There will be lots of little unforseens along the way, but this is where I need to slow down. Safety first. On a fun note, after 1st timers frame is officially scrap, I would like to add legs and casters to the front half and make it into an engine cradle. Fun souvenir. It's not rotten like the back half!

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Edited by 2ndtime50guy on 07-17-18 03:24 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
2ndtime50guy 
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07-17-18 04:07 PM - Post#2740329    
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Looking ahead to the next year, I will be posting many questions. Question number one is, can this spare 3:70 rear differential be converted to 3:55 for highway cruising? My goal is to have a car that could cruise comfortably at 65 mph. I am also looking for recommendations for transmission (5 speed? T5?) I know nothing here. Engine wise I plan to stick with a refreshed 235, but move to dual intake and exhaust. The sooner I can determine a plan, the better. If I don't need this 3:70, I need to get it out of here
It's just money sitting here in the way!

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Edited by 2ndtime50guy on 07-17-18 04:08 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
2ndtime50guy 
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07-17-18 04:25 PM - Post#2740332    
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Question number two and three for next year:

1. How much does the empty shell of the body weigh without doors, glass, interior, and trunk lid? It will be BARE.

2. How much clearance needed above to lift the body?

The remaining garage door and tracks will be removed and replaced with carriage house doors. See pics. One side is already done.


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Keith_Knox 
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07-17-18 09:30 PM - Post#2740365    
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If you opt for the 5 speed, you will need to update to an open driveshaft rear end. Also will need an adapter or the correct bell housing for the S 10 5 speed.

1948 Chevy Fleetmaster Coupe Purchased 6/2010. Stock with rebuilt 52 216 installed May 1966.
1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup, stock. Purchased 11/18/17.
1962 Ranchero Purchased 4/2017 221 V8 Automatic.
2013 F150 Crew Cab


 
2ndtime50guy 
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07-18-18 06:01 PM - Post#2740451    
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Thanks Keith! I appreciate all the info and teaching I can get. Would a 1957 open driveline differential with 3:55 gears work? I have access to one for $50.

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4 Door Styleline Deluxe
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Keith_Knox 
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07-18-18 07:32 PM - Post#2740470    
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I would grab that even if you do not use it. That is a great price.

1948 Chevy Fleetmaster Coupe Purchased 6/2010. Stock with rebuilt 52 216 installed May 1966.
1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup, stock. Purchased 11/18/17.
1962 Ranchero Purchased 4/2017 221 V8 Automatic.
2013 F150 Crew Cab


 
2ndtime50guy 
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07-18-18 07:55 PM - Post#2740479    
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Would it work with a T5 and some sort of adapter, as mentioned with the S10 set up?

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Keith_Knox 
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07-19-18 08:25 AM - Post#2740526    
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Yes The adapter is hard to find, but the bell housing from a pick up will work I think. Ray knows what to use, hopefully he will chime in.

1948 Chevy Fleetmaster Coupe Purchased 6/2010. Stock with rebuilt 52 216 installed May 1966.
1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup, stock. Purchased 11/18/17.
1962 Ranchero Purchased 4/2017 221 V8 Automatic.
2013 F150 Crew Cab


 
raycow 
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07-19-18 10:53 AM - Post#2740539    
    In response to Keith_Knox

It would be best to pick your trans before you order a bellhousing or adapter. This is because 92-earlier S-10s used the common GM trans bolt pattern and 93-up changed to a Ford pattern.

If you get a trans with the GM pattern, you can use a 48-59 truck bellhousing or one from a 55-62 passenger car. Either will require some cobbling on the clutch linkage because of the fork angle. You will also need to shorten the trans input shaft and front bearing retainer. Alternatively, you can keep your stock bellhousing and use an adapter plate. This will avoid both the linkage and length issues but will probably cost more than a bellhousing.

If you get a trans with the Ford pattern you will have to keep your stock bellhousing and use an adapter. I have not seen any adapters made that allow using a Ford pattern trans on the common GM pattern bellhousing.

One other hiccup is the speedo drive. It changed to electric at some point before the bolt pattern change, but I don't know the exact year. This will be evident when you look at the trans, so if you have a choice, pick one with mechanical drive. Electric can be converted to mechanical on earlier ones, but later ones can't and on those you will either have to run an electric speedo or else use a speedo adapter like Cable-X. On this too, I don't know what year the change occurred.

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
2ndtime50guy 
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07-19-18 05:20 PM - Post#2740567    
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Wow. Thanks guys! I have a LOT to learn. Thank you for the detailed info. I will read up on these topics and try to get back to you with questions.

Two 1950s:
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4 Door Styleline Deluxe
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2ndtime50guy 
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07-19-18 08:08 PM - Post#2740586    
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My logo decal is installed! I made a background for it out of green and silver paints, blended. Masked it to look like a diagram cutaway for fun. Ready for the reunion!

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Keith_Knox 
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07-19-18 09:27 PM - Post#2740595    
    In response to raycow

Thanks ray. I knew you had the answers and I saved it in my info folder.

1948 Chevy Fleetmaster Coupe Purchased 6/2010. Stock with rebuilt 52 216 installed May 1966.
1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup, stock. Purchased 11/18/17.
1962 Ranchero Purchased 4/2017 221 V8 Automatic.
2013 F150 Crew Cab


 
one4dad 
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07-26-18 06:50 PM - Post#2741250    
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314479)
Tim Look up this CT topic. I have a truck bell housing that should meet your needs if you decide to go that way. I will sell cheap plus shipping

Bill

Bill Wilson 50 styleline deluxe 2 door sold,- 51 styleline Deluxe 2 door ,'56 235 with dual carter webers on an Offenhauser intake, Fenton headers, 56 chevy rear end and 700R4 transmission.


 
2ndtime50guy 
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08-01-18 05:41 AM - Post#2741660    
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Thanks Bill! Sorry, I have been slow to respond. I'm on a houseboat vacation with not much cell phone service. Dale Hollow in Kentucky and Tennessee is beautiful! I just wish the Army Corps of Engineers would have left some rotting cars up in the woods to go look at, lol. I'll look up that link and read it too! Thanks for your offer!

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4 Door Styleline Deluxe
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2ndtime50guy 
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08-18-18 02:55 PM - Post#2743531    
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Two old Chevytalkers finally meet! Bill Gommel came to Terre Haute for our Air Show and stopped by our house. He met my family, we all went out for dinner, and he checked out 1sttimer and what's left of 2ndtimer. Then he went to the air show today and got a selfie with one of my Facebook friends that recognized him from this pic I posted last night! Great times! I wish I could meet more of you! Maybe this air show will become annual and he can come down again next year.

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09-04-18 07:15 PM - Post#2745324    
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Not much to report on "the build". Here is my "to do" list for the next month:

1. Sell lots of parts to make room.
2. Maybe start prepping new frame.

That's all.



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09-16-18 05:07 PM - Post#2746369    
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I'm gonna be kind of off the grid for a while because I am replacing the head gaskets and possibly heads on a 96 Bronco we bought for my son. It's my first time working on a 351 Windsor V8, so I'm fairly intimidated right now. .so far I have pulled the AC Compressor, Alternator, Distributor, harness, throttle body, plenum, air ducts, etc. Next is the intake. Hope to be done in about 1 month, since I only have Sundays, 12-4pm and I am learning as I go. Modern shop manuals leave a lot to be desired!

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4 Door Styleline Deluxe
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