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Username Post: 56_Kruiser's Build Thread - '61 BelAir Bubbletop        (Topic#302726)
gofastwclass 
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09-11-17 10:14 PM - Post#2707447    
    In response to 56_Kruiser

Very good news.

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56_Kruiser 
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09-18-17 05:24 PM - Post#2708058    
    In response to gofastwclass

Well, finally got the hurricane mess cleaned up. Wore my butt plumb out. I'm not made for manual labor, at least not at my current age. I'll like a video of what it looked like in a day or two, just for fun.

I got the brakes functioning on the '61. It was the pressure switch.

So, my mounting location for the electric pump bit me. On my '56, I have it under the driver seat on the frame. On the '61 I decided to mount it on the back side of the fender cover behind the headlights.

Due to clearance issues where it is mounted, I had to pull the unit. In order to do that, I had to pull the cover in front of the core support (hiding the back side of headlights, horn, A/C concensor, etc). Then I had to remove the left turn signal. And I had to pull the headlight bucket.

In the picture below, you can see the silver colored mounting bolts on the back side of the headlight area:

IMG_20170916_132008 by Roger Ewing, on Flickr

Below is a picture of the unit from under the wheel well:

IMG_20170916_132043 by Roger Ewing, on Flickr

Since then I've been doing a final show polish on the car. I'm going over it first with 3000 grit Trizact hookit pads, then 5000 grit, then the 3M Perfect It II polishing kit. Even though it is quite a bit of work, it is definitely is making it reflect like a mirror. Happy with how it's coming out.

Small update on the A/C
As I noted earlier, it is working. I hooked up my cheapo Harbor Freight A/C gauges to see how the pressures look. Had my son-in-law in the car to rev the engine to 1500 rpm, and hold a laser temp gun on the vents.

The tem at the front of the vents was 46.

The pressure on the high side was good, at around 225. But I couldn't check the low side. The low side gauge wouldn't push in the A/C schrader valve, so I couldn't test the pressure. I guess I'll take it to the guy that charged it.

I need to do a review, but I think once I finish polishing that I can declare the car at it's 'First Finish'. Why First Finish? Because these things are never really finished.

1956 Belair Convertible

Bubbletop Build Thread



 
popper 
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09-18-17 07:22 PM - Post#2708074    
    In response to 56_Kruiser

Kruiser,
Not sure if you can get to the bolts on the pump side but if you can you might consider using nutserts in the holes instead of the serrated nuts on the headlight bucket side. Then you wouldn't have to remove the headlight bucket and turn signal next time.

popper
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gofastwclass 
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09-18-17 09:26 PM - Post#2708087    
    In response to 56_Kruiser

A paint job on a custom car without wet sanding to me may have well been done in Krylon. Just my opinion...

Rivnuts are fantastic if they will work for your application. The only drawback is they require a special tool for installation.

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56_Kruiser 
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09-19-17 05:57 AM - Post#2708109    
    In response to popper

  • popper Said:
Kruiser,
Not sure if you can get to the bolts on the pump side but if you can you might consider using nutserts in the holes instead of the serrated nuts on the headlight bucket side. Then you wouldn't have to remove the headlight bucket and turn signal next time.

popper
John Lynch



What a great idea. Can't in this case because the bolts aren't really accessible from the pump side. Another glance at the picture will make that apparent.

  • gofastwclass Said:
A paint job on a custom car without wet sanding to me may have well been done in Krylon. Just my opinion...



Oh, I agree. I've never done a paint job without follow-up color sanding. Since discovery of the 3M Trizact product, I have become a big fan. In the end it makes it easier to achieve a gloss/deep result.

  • gofastwclass Said:
Rivnuts are fantastic if they will work for your application. The only drawback is they require a special tool for installation.



Good point on the tool. I probably wouldn't be doing it enough to warrant purchase of one.

1956 Belair Convertible

Bubbletop Build Thread



 
56handyman 
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09-19-17 04:15 PM - Post#2708176    
    In response to 56_Kruiser

You can purchase a rivnut tool a very reasonable price. Just Google rivnut tool. This ONE is $22.04 on Amazon. You wouldn't want to use it for a production line, but for your purpose it should work fine. I bought one in 1971 and used it once and just used it again this year for a rivnut. Even with 2 uses, it was worth it to me.

Mike

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56_Kruiser 
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09-24-17 06:40 PM - Post#2708731    
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I went to Marineland today to get some video of the 61 to put together. There is a road right off of A1A that goes right along the coast behind some small dunes that is about 1/4 - 1/3 mile long. Would be a great place to do the video. But when I got there, the dunes had been washed out, and sand all over the road. The road about looked like part of the beach:

IMG_3119 by Roger Ewing, on Flickr

So, at the entrance to that road, I got a few pics:


IMG_3116 by Roger Ewing, on Flickr

IMG_3120 by Roger Ewing, on Flickr

I forgot to check my f-stop on the above pics. NOt as good as they should be.

IMG_3121 by Roger Ewing, on Flickr

IMG_3122 by Roger Ewing, on Flickr

I've finished the polishing, and got the anti-freeze in. I still need to take it to get the pressures checked on the A/C.



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SS540 
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09-25-17 03:42 AM - Post#2708744    
    In response to 56_Kruiser

The car looks great Roger.

Are you satisfied with the exhaust?

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Sauceman 
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09-25-17 04:10 AM - Post#2708745    
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Very nice!

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turbo38s10 
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09-25-17 05:23 AM - Post#2708755    
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pic 3121 almost looks like a painting ! nice job.



 
56_Kruiser 
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09-25-17 06:24 AM - Post#2708757    
    In response to SS540

  • SS540 Said:
...Are you satisfied with the exhaust?



I have mixed thoughts on it. I like the look. It sounds good. It is a bit loud when driving. Part of that is because it has 40 series Flowmaster mufflers. My 56 has 50 series. I'm sure it would be mitigated some if exiting at the back.

1956 Belair Convertible

Bubbletop Build Thread



 
Ole61 
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09-25-17 07:16 AM - Post#2708761    
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Very nice looking,what type of headlights are you using



 
56_Kruiser 
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09-25-17 08:53 AM - Post#2708768    
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  • Ole61 Said:
Very nice looking,what type of headlights are you using



Thanks.

The headlights are Octane Lighting



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gofastwclass 
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09-26-17 10:34 PM - Post#2708988    
    In response to 56_Kruiser

  • 56_Kruiser Said:
  • SS540 Said:
...Are you satisfied with the exhaust?



I have mixed thoughts on it. I like the look. It sounds good. It is a bit loud when driving. Part of that is because it has 40 series Flowmaster mufflers. My 56 has 50 series. I'm sure it would be mitigated some if exiting at the back.



Ironic that I just changed mufflers on my Impala last Thursday. Initially I had the V6 f-bomb stang $15 swap meet specials on the car. They sounded ok at idle, but after the supercharger installation were way too loud at nearly any engine RPM. Even worse, they were missing something if that makes sense.

I'm not a fan of chambered mufflers, the theory of operation is solid but I can't get past the hollow echoing harmonics.

I was going to go with a set of Magnaflow mufflers and probably will end up there once I redo the entire exhaust, but for now decided to error on the quiet side for the longer highway runs and I'm running a pair of Dynomax 17748's. These still have enough noise to let people know it's a hot rod, but are quiet enough that rolling down the road at 65+ MPH I can hear outside the car and we can talk without shouting.

By the way, this is still with no carpet or sound reduction material and the exhaust exiting in front of the rear wheels.

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56_Kruiser 
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09-27-17 08:06 AM - Post#2709010    
    In response to gofastwclass

I suspect I will change the mufflers some day.

On my 56, when I had the 350 with the blower, it also had a gear drive. After putting in the LS1, I definitely like the quieter sound.



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56_Kruiser 
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10-04-17 01:22 PM - Post#2709763    
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Well, the aftermarket parts failures continue.

My A/C compressor stopped coming on. To make a longer story shorter, I just finished bypassing the Vintage Air trinary switch, and it comes on fine.

The good news is, I'm on hold with Summit right now, and it has an 18 month warranty. He is getting it set up to ship one out.

The other good news is that I used the Vintage Air pressure fitting which has a schraeder valve, so I can change it out w/o pulling the freon.

This fix is good news. I had called VA to ask their opinion on what could cause the A/C compressor to not work, assuming I had the freon charged sufficiently.

He listed the temp probe, or the ECU. He didn't list the relay, or the trinary switch. But I decided to check those out first.

The relay tested fine, and as already stated the trinary is the problem.

Had it been one of the two things he listed, this is what I would have had to do:

  • Drop the evaporator unit to get to the wires hooking to the ECU in order to test the temp sensor
  • IN order to drop that evaporator, first thing I'd have to do is drop the cover/valance on passenger side which nicely hides the evaporator and blower
  • Then I would have to pull the kick panel
  • Then I would have to pull the center part of the console that goes up to under the glove box.
  • In order to pull that, I would have to pull the center of the console (which has the compartment in it), because the screws holding the center console piece ar under it.
  • In order to pull the center console, I'd have to pull the back part that goes up to the package tray
  • In order to pull the back part, I'd have to pull both seats out, both back and bottom.


I'm glad it's the trinary switch.



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kingkreeton 
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10-04-17 02:05 PM - Post#2709768    
    In response to 56_Kruiser

It sounds like VA's tech support is not very good.

Shane
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10-04-17 04:02 PM - Post#2709781    
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You've had an awful lot of problems with that VA system over this build if memroy serves me.
Makes me wonder if I would ever use one.



 
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10-04-17 05:40 PM - Post#2709787    
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I've installed numerous Vintage Air units with no problems and have never had a problem with their Technical Support. I wouldn't think about using anything else.



 
56_Kruiser 
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10-07-17 01:40 PM - Post#2710062    
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I do seem to have had my share of issues with VA. But overall, I'm not discouraged with them. They have taken care of me.

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56_Kruiser 
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10-16-17 02:22 PM - Post#2711036    
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I've been busy with other things, but I do now have parts I need to 'finish' the car.

The pressure switch arrived for the A/C, so that needs to go in. Assuming the compressor works after installing the pressure switch (I think it will), I need to take it to the shop and check pressures.


I received a DC Buck Converter from Amazon, which I need to covert the 12v supply from the battery down to 5 v for the mirror. The plug-in for the cig lighter was not consistent, so I hard wired it. Completely forgot it needed to be 5 v.

I also have a wierd issue with my air ride. Seems the connector on the wire going to the post on the small fuse panel in the trunk is losing contact and so the controller and remote will both not work unless I unplug and replug it in. I think I will try it on a different post first, and if still having problems, I will replace the male connector.

I had a bumper bolt drop out. It's on the driver's side corner of the bumper. Looks like I'll have to drop the bumper to put another in. (That is one of the poorly installed items from when I received the car. I had not taken that bolt out. nor had I checked it, and so here I am needing to install one). It was amazing how many missing bolts, wrong bolts, etc the car arrived witn/without.

As far as I know right now, that will complete the car.

I took pics of the car today to send to Grundy to try to get the insured value raised.

Here is a link to an album in Google Photos.



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