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Username Post: 56_Kruiser's Build Thread - '61 BelAir Bubbletop        (Topic#302726)
56_Kruiser 
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03-15-18 11:01 AM - Post#2727687    
    In response to 56_Kruiser

I just realized something.

I think I had the plate on the axel that gets bolted onto the rear end backing plate mounted upside down. Looking from the inside, that has an indention that would act like a funnel for any grease/oil that is there, funnelling it down, and likely leak out. Especially in my case

Because I had to notch that backing plate a bit to mount it to the Wilwood backing plates in use now, as there was some stuff that it landed on had I not notched it.

I guess the question is that if the seals were good, should there be enough grease or oil to flow down and get thrown around the wheel.

It's tempting to get a new gasket, put the new o-rings on, and mount it all back up.

On the other hand, while it's out, maybe I should go ahead and spend the $ to get a new bearing and have it pressed on.

2018-03-15_01-55-48 by Roger Ewing


1956 Belair Convertible

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Edited by 56_Kruiser on 03-15-18 11:02 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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56_Kruiser 
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03-15-18 01:46 PM - Post#2727716    
    In response to 56_Kruiser

JFYI...I am replacing the bearing and seals. I'll be sure to mount the plate correctly. Hopefully I'll be back in business.

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threeimpalas 
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03-16-18 07:41 AM - Post#2727809    
    In response to 56_Kruiser

You can see in the video that your outboard o-ring has been cut. That can result in a leak.

The axle retainer doesn't provide a sealing function.

Mike
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56_Kruiser 
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03-16-18 08:13 AM - Post#2727815    
    In response to threeimpalas

I agree. I have noticed it. It's not cut all the way through, but none-the-less, it is cut. Actually more than once I believe.

Hopefully my attempt at repair will be successful.

ON another topic
Like many folks that frequent forums, this thread in particular had quite a negative impact from Photobucket's change to it's policies without warning regarding hosting photographs for forums.

Last night I finally started replacing those links in this thread. Boy, did I put a lot of photos in.

While I am finished for all intents and purposes, and I suspect this thread will go dark due to lack of input, it's been a nostalgic experience as I reload photos. The project of building was the real reason I purchased the car in the first place. Reliving it has been fun.

I've had the car longer than I thought. The posts start in 2013.



1956 Belair Convertible

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03-16-18 09:09 AM - Post#2727816    
    In response to 56_Kruiser

This is one of my favorite threads I have read since joining 7 years ago. I appreciate you fixing the pictures as I'm sure others will be able to use this thread as a reference in various projects in the future. I know I have.



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03-16-18 11:33 AM - Post#2727829    
    In response to kingkreeton

Not sure about this but isn't this 5188 gasket also part of the sealing process for the rear axle? Doesn't it help direct any leak to the outside of the backing plate instead of inside where it would get on the brake shoes?
Also since you have a leak and the axle is out I would put a new bearing on only to be sure both seals weren't leaking rather than have to do it twice.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/chevrolet, 1961...



Edited by turbo38s10 on 03-16-18 11:36 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
56_Kruiser 
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03-16-18 11:39 AM - Post#2727830    
    In response to turbo38s10

Hmmm...if that gasket you linked is shown at the direction it is supposed to be installed, then I did NOT have that plate installed upside down. That actually did direct grease down, but in the case of the Wilwood brakes design, the grease ended up in brake shoes (emergency drum) and then of course on the inside of the wheel.

I would like to get confirmation of the direction that should install.

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03-16-18 11:47 AM - Post#2727831    
    In response to 56_Kruiser

The inner shield on the bearing has a double funcion: it keeps the grease packed inside the bearing itself like any shied and retains the oil comming from the axle tube, like any seal.

So, to change the seal it's a matter of removing the inner bearing shield with a thin file or knife.

But the whole issue seems to be the o-rings that are either torn or missing.

I read that you're already changing the whole bearing so everything is good to go. Just remember that the sealed shield side goes to the inner side of the axle tube and make sure that the o-rings wont be cut when installing.


  • 56_Kruiser Said:
I have the O-ring so I'm covered there. But if that seal was actually leaking , then I pretty much need to pull that bearing. From what I understand when pulling the bearing you really need to replace it.

I really don't know what the deal is with that seal, but I guess I will discuss it with the place that will pull the bearing and try to be sure that it gets done correctly.




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turbo38s10 
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03-17-18 10:11 AM - Post#2727940    
    In response to 56_Kruiser

On mine the rounded portion is to the bottom , just as the gasket is pictured.



 
56_Kruiser 
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03-17-18 10:14 AM - Post#2727941    
    In response to turbo38s10

Thanks for that confirmation.

1956 Belair Convertible

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