2Tone55
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 09-02-12 02:01 PM - Post#2265756
Looking to secure my 55 a bit more. I keep it in a garage at home but when I'm out and about in it I get a bit nervous if it's out of my sight, like when we go out to eat somewhere. I live in a relatively small city of about 100k people and although I love and take pride in my city (Brockton Ma, home of past world champion boxers Rocky Marciano and Marvelous Marvin Hagler), it has it's bad parts and people like most cities do.
Anyway, I have a basic alarm system in my 55 but they are fairly easy to disable by someone who knows what they are doing. I usually pull the coil wire and carry it in my back pocket but there has to be something better than that. Today I saw a vehicle immobilizer on Danchuk's site: http://www.danchuk.com/images/Downloads/Cata log/20... 1/2 way down the page (part 16264) that looks interesting.
Anyone have any experience with one of these, or do you have an equal or better method of keeping your car secure? I've seen where people have rewired their cigarette lighters to act as kill switches. What do you do to keep your car yours?
LOL, I just previewed this post and I come across sounding a bit paranoid. I don't think I am, but I cannot afford to replace my car and until I redo my "agreed value" insurance I'm just looking for every edge to make sure no d-bag drives off with my car. 
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09-02-12 02:16 PM - Post#2265763
In response to 2Tone55
Lojack
http://www.lojack.com/Pages/home.aspx?pi_ad_id=165...
they sell for $295.
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09-02-12 02:21 PM - Post#2265764
In response to 2Tone55
Hello;
Your post didn't take me to the site! I have heard that there is a way to Imoblize the ignition with a switch, which I have seen done before but don't know how to do it. The only other way would be to put a alarm system that not only sounds off but completely shuts down any electrical. You also might want to put a battery switch someplace too! You do know that these things only slow down determined jerks from taking whats not theirs!
Good Luck! I most recently bought some seats from a wrecked hot rod truck. The owner said not to feel sorry for him because he had it very well insured!!!
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2Tone55
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09-02-12 02:39 PM - Post#2265769
In response to C57Heaven
Never even thought about Lojack. That's a local company too about 10 miles from where I live.
Just went to the link. It shows for $695. Ouch.
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09-02-12 02:47 PM - Post#2265771
In response to Bruces 57
Link worked when I previewed it, but you are right it isn't working now.
Maybe this will work. Try http://www.danchuk.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=99931
and click the Catalog tab.
The category is #4 Electrical and Audio Equipment. The item I was talking about is part #16264, which is about 1/2 way down on the right side.
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09-02-12 03:03 PM - Post#2265777
In response to 2Tone55
Have you thought of a removeable steering wheel? They have them with a key lock cover that goes on after you pull the wheel.
Of course only a tracking device will help if the theives have a wrecker or trailer. And those guys can disable the tracking device too.
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09-02-12 03:07 PM - Post#2265780
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I'd move if I were you.
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09-02-12 03:16 PM - Post#2265785
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For now, the best I can do is run a knob switch on the neg. side of the battery and use a cable lock on the hood - it opens far enough to reach in and turn the knob. At least that keeps the battery and radiator in the car and eliminates hot wiring. I also use THE CLUB on both '57's. Both cars sit outside, but I have 2 dogs with good hearing! 
I wonder if a line-lock for drag racing could be set up with a hidden switch - one switch to activate the line-lock, while cutting power to the coil?
I've also thought about hiding a ball valve in the fuel line...I need to look at Earl's and Aeroquip and what they might have, designed for gas.
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09-02-12 03:31 PM - Post#2265792
In response to 2Tone55
I'd recommend Hagerty collector car insurance. Its much cheaper then standard out insurance and is agreed value.
Mine is about 1/2 the price of my 2008 Impala insurance and NO deductible.
I'd hate worrying about my car as you do. I usually don't lock it at local establishments but if I go to the Twin Cities I do lock it.
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09-02-12 03:46 PM - Post#2265798
In response to 6-bangertim
The advantage of the fuel line is that it lets them start the car so they think everything is ok and then cuts out. That disorients them and puts them outside their comfort zone - they are right in the middle of the road, so to speak... with no real place to start looking. Doesn't protect from tow truck, though.
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09-02-12 03:51 PM - Post#2265802
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I have thought a lot about this, one tip I might do is carry a dummy coil wire, without the metal ends, so that does not work and if they look under the hood it will appear ok. If they figure it out they only have to move a spark plug wire but it would slow them down and might give you enough time to pull out your gun you will be carrying!
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09-02-12 06:04 PM - Post#2265840
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If you have HEI, an easy method I use is a wire spliced into the tachometer wire and then runs to one side of a toggle switch and the other side grounded. The toggle is hid under the dash and whenever we park the car during daylight hours for any reason, I throw the switch just in case. For overnight hotel parking, I also have another toggle hid under the hood that is wired the same. I throw both switches for overnight parking. I also have a toggle switch that activates the horn to the dome light switch so if the door is opened, the horn sounds until closed. The last thing I use for hotel parking is called an Unbreakable Lock that you can either put on the brake pedal arm or the clutch pedal arm if you have a stick. That would keep them busy sitting outside the car trying to cut it with a hacksaw. If they still are able to take it with a tow truck, insurance will kick in.
The toggle switch idea saved a friends '63 Vette when two guys rolled the car down the street and then were still trying to start it when the police showed up. 
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09-02-12 07:23 PM - Post#2265875
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2Tone55. I have a brake lock(line loc) set up on mine. Locks all 4 wheels.Not going to drive it away that's for sure.But as said above.... if they want it bad enough, it could always be wenched up an a roll back,and taken away. 
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09-02-12 07:44 PM - Post#2265879
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Dr Phil just got his 57' chevy convert stolen in Burbank out of a shop.
Lojack if available in your area is a good start
http://www.timesnews.net/article/9051176/dr-ph ils-...
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09-02-12 08:01 PM - Post#2265881
In response to Hugo
You may want to investigate the trunk monkey system.
Trunk Monkey
Thinking about getting it for my cars.
Besides auto theft, it has other functions it can do as well. Complete listing.
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2Tone55
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09-02-12 09:15 PM - Post#2265889
In response to Black57
Lots of good ideas here. I think I'm going to just add a kill switch for now. If someone's trying to take it I just want to slow them down enough where they get uncomfortable and pass on it or I get alerted and they wish they had passed on it.
I gotta admit though, I'd sleep a lot better with the Trunk Monkey installed, LOL.
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09-02-12 11:23 PM - Post#2265918
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a buddy of mine had his mustang bagged enough the frame touched ground and tires raised 1 inch off ground when parked. that kept the tow trucks away. he also had a dragster 5 switch panel in the car. found a way that the switches had to be flipped in the right order to fire up. i spent a hour messing with it trying to fire it up after he installed it. wanted me to see if i could get it running to see how secure it was. if i was trying to steal it i would have said hell with and just jacked the next car less head ache. I have also heard of using a floor board mounted pressure plate.
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09-02-12 11:59 PM - Post#2265925
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A simple, but effective hood lock is a 3 or 4 foot length of chain. Attach one end to the underside of the hood, near the latch. Crawl under the car, & secure the other end of the chain to the frame with a padlock. CAUTION FAN  I never said it's convenient, but it WORKS. Thread the chain through a length of garden hose, to protect your paint, & stop rattles.
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09-03-12 12:20 AM - Post#2265929
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2 tone, i know just how you feel, i am just the same when i leave my 57 out of site,my suggestion is buy a good alarm system, have a good insurance policy, then just get out and drive it...if the scum bags want it, they WILL take it.no matter what.
what you have to do is think smart, park in the right places, and accept that it could happen.you cant live your life around the what if factor,as much as we all love our tri fives....they are just a car! i know that sounds hard but thats life 
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09-03-12 05:50 AM - Post#2265968
In response to bowtieboy56
I have often thought about weaving some metallic thread through the drivers seat , and hooking it up to an electric fence controller , they are available in 12VDC and are small enough to hide behind a kick panel  Connect it up to an ignition feed wire and put a 5 second timer with a buzzer just in case you forget its there , but you would probably only forget once
When we were cruising around the USA in our Chevrolet I fitted a hidden switch in the feed wire to the fuel pump and a GPS tracker system , when I was in an area I thought was a bit dodgy I removed all the wheel nuts from one wheel - it might get damaged , but it wouldn't get gone.
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09-03-12 12:37 PM - Post#2266107
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At Barrett Jackson a vendor had an alarm that would call your cell phone if the car was bumped, moved or started while enabled. You would need to be in the area. You probably are going to need multiple methods, if you want to be able to sleep soundly while the car is park in a shakey location. On another thread, someone mentioned a "baby" monitor. You could hear sounds coming from inside the car if you were in range. I like the hood lock, the removable steering wheel, fuel cutoff, and power blocking. As some have already said, if they got a truck with a winch, say bye bye.
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09-03-12 07:03 PM - Post#2266245
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too funny, I'm going with the trunk monkey!
another method is the .357
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09-04-12 09:18 AM - Post#2266419
In response to C57Heaven
Hmmm, how does Lojak keep it from being stolen? It's more after the fact, I think.
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09-04-12 03:10 PM - Post#2266526
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10 roger.....Lojack would hopefully show where the bad guys are so the Po lice could find them and the car.
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09-04-12 03:47 PM - Post#2266540
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You can get immediate notification option on lojack. My understanding is that the way it works is that if the car is moved more than 25 ft without a special key fob in the car lojack is notified and calls a series of predetermined numbers such as your cell your home, your office, to let you know that the vehicle is being moved. You can then instruct the operator to activate the lojack unit and the car can then be traced by the police. A friend of mine had this put on her fathers car and he moved it around the block one day without the key fob and she immedeiately got the call that the car was being moved without authorization.
I think I am explaing this right.
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09-04-12 04:14 PM - Post#2266553
In response to 210 4 door hrtp
I have a battery post disconnect on my 57 that i remove whenever i am away from it. I used the baby monitor method when i was away over night this summer. You can hear anything going on around the car, even another cars alarm being set when parked.
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09-05-12 12:18 AM - Post#2266690
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yes Blacky! a electric fence unit....but....for a cleaver crim, they would hear the....click....click.....click..haha  .
but i really like the idea!
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09-05-12 08:28 AM - Post#2266758
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On restored cars with new wiring & fuse box, we pull the fuse to fuel pump or ignition..
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09-06-12 05:05 PM - Post#2267185
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Another option might be to look into On-Star, it came on my vette the first year and they can track the car and talk to it.
They have retro kits for older cars now. You'd have to hide it somewhere maybe under the package shelf.
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09-07-12 10:24 AM - Post#2267372
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Thinking about this for a long time as I really want to travel the country after I finish mine. I Like the lojack as one option, but not available in my area. I'm going to install this when I rewire the 53, not a complete security system but a start:
http://www.allsecurityelectronics.com/store/pc/SLI...
http://www.allsecurityelectronics.com/store/pc/cat...
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