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Username Post: Radio Install on 1963        (Topic#285407)
I_drive_chevy 
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08-11-12 01:51 AM - Post#2258033    

On my 1963 Impala someone removed the stock radio its empty not sure why anyone would do that on to my question.

When I got the car bout a year back came with aftermarket Alpine I say late 90's model, mounted under the dash. I took out the Alpine and put the Kenwood I had from another car. I undid wire by wire ran each the same way as the set up seemed to work. I did that months ago tonight I was driving around the Radio kept saying Protect on it.

Upon driving home I check the wires and smoke started filling up the car and wire caught fire. I put it out and checked it seemed like it was ground wire off to the left mounted to the car inside. It was dark and late did not have a chance to see what happened. I checked the radio off the battery still good. Took the cables off the battery till I can see what happened..

2 part question
1 What would cause this without looking probally no fuse and it was run straight to the battery?

2 What is the proper way to install a radio that doesn't have a factory harness Ive installed so many radios no problems but usually had factory harness and easy set up from there.

Again it was late got lucky this happened in the drive way and not cruising any advice be great.. Thanks everyone

 
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Sic_63 
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08-11-12 03:46 AM - Post#2258038    
    In response to I_drive_chevy

Sorry to hear your troubles.

1.Sounds like the power wire got grounded out somehow. Always run fuses to the Red and Yellow wires.

2.When hooking up a radio without factory harness

P o w e r
Memory (+12v Constant) Yellow
Ignition (+12v Switched) Red
Ground (-) Black
Dimmer Pink/White (Alpine only)
Power Antenna Blue
Amplifier Turn-on Blue/White
S p e a k e r s
Right Front (+) Gray
Right Front (-) Gray/Black
Left Front (+) White
Left Front (-) White/Black
Right Rear (+) Violet
Right Rear (-) Violet/Black
Left Rear (+) Green
Left Rear (-) Green/Black
Carmen
1963 Impala 2 Door Hardtop


 
roccaas 
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08-11-12 05:52 AM - Post#2258060    
    In response to Sic_63

For some reason I had taped the ground and power wires into a bundle under the dash. Puff of smoke, big sizzle. Fortunately the radio fuse shut everything down and protected the radio. Now the run far from each other.
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I_drive_chevy 
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08-11-12 12:54 PM - Post#2258167    
    In response to roccaas

You guys run a power wire straight to the battery than? Put a fuse on it? Than where do you run the ground?

 
I_drive_chevy 
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08-11-12 04:07 PM - Post#2258221    
    In response to I_drive_chevy

I looked the ground was off to the left on a screw on the driver side.

The main power was coming from the cigeratte lighter they must must taped into the wire but it was done correct gets 12 volts.

The other wire is brown wire also taped in correct way under the dash not sure what the brown wire is for? Must be acc??

What about a toggle switch on the radio turn it off and so its not always on,and I dont have to turn it off on the unit?

 
BigCoop64 
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08-11-12 08:51 PM - Post#2258310    
    In response to I_drive_chevy

i run my 12v constant and accessory wire to the main wires in the steering colmn ,and find a good solid ground under the dash. that should correct your problem
1964 Impala
Original 283.030over
powerglide,edelbrock/holl y
Pete Jackson gear drive
HEI/msd 6al
2.25" exhaust w/50series flowmasters

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1996 Dodge Stratus
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I_drive_chevy 
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08-11-12 09:38 PM - Post#2258323    
    In response to BigCoop64

I found a good ground I like it keep it memory and power safely I hate to mess with the column what wires you go into?

 
Sic_63 
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08-12-12 03:00 AM - Post#2258342    
    In response to I_drive_chevy

You can hook both the constant 12v and switch 12v from the fuse box. Yellow wire to the (BAT.) plug and Red to the (FUSED-IGN.) plug.
Carmen
1963 Impala 2 Door Hardtop


Edited by Sic_63 on 08-12-12 03:03 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
I_drive_chevy 
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08-12-12 12:35 PM - Post#2258481    
    In response to Sic_63

What gauge wire and how do you keep the wire in place in the fuse box thanks

 
roccaas 
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08-12-12 03:28 PM - Post#2258546    
    In response to I_drive_chevy

Female connector, usually with a blue cover. Auto Parts places and Radio Shack have them. Fits tightly over the male connector. 14 Gauge works fine.
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I_drive_chevy 
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08-12-12 03:36 PM - Post#2258549    
    In response to roccaas

I used 16 gauge that should be ok right? The female connector could I use blue butt connectors put one on the male end the other on the wire clamp it?

 
Sic_63 
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08-12-12 03:38 PM - Post#2258550    
    In response to I_drive_chevy

16ga shoouold be fine here the connector you want to use
Carmen
1963 Impala 2 Door Hardtop


Edited by Sic_63 on 08-12-12 03:40 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
I_drive_chevy 
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08-12-12 03:47 PM - Post#2258555    
    In response to Sic_63

Hey my 63 driver thanks for the advice bro, now I can cruise to music again thanks boss

 
I_drive_chevy 
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08-12-12 06:28 PM - Post#2258615    
    In response to I_drive_chevy

Thought I was good than the protect came on the radio again. I haven't bought the female adapters yet have wire ran through each tab.. What's going on this crazy man

 
BigCoop64 
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08-12-12 11:00 PM - Post#2258669    
    In response to I_drive_chevy

The protect mode means u need to enter a 4digit code to unlock the unit happens usually after its lost constant power,a theft feature for the unit. Also it could means theres still a wiring issue or lastly something is wrong internally with the radio. Is there a little reset button on the face or behind it,try pushing it and see if it corrects it.
1964 Impala
Original 283.030over
powerglide,edelbrock/holl y
Pete Jackson gear drive
HEI/msd 6al
2.25" exhaust w/50series flowmasters

other cars:2003 Monte Carlo LS
1996 Dodge Stratus
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Sic_63 
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08-13-12 05:40 AM - Post#2258694    
    In response to BigCoop64

What is the model# of the radio? also are you running any amps?
Carmen
1963 Impala 2 Door Hardtop


 
Sic_63 
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08-13-12 05:43 AM - Post#2258696    
    In response to Sic_63

Check all speaker wires and rca wires if you have an amp and make sure none of the wires are pinched.

or unplug all the speaker wires from the head unit, drive it for a bit to see if it happens. If no protection comes on then you know its one of the speaker wires.
Carmen
1963 Impala 2 Door Hardtop


 
BigCoop64 
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08-13-12 06:15 AM - Post#2258702    
    In response to Sic_63

Sic 63 is correct. If any of the speakers are blown it wires pinched and grounding out,that will cut out most radios. Hope that fixes your problem.
1964 Impala
Original 283.030over
powerglide,edelbrock/holl y
Pete Jackson gear drive
HEI/msd 6al
2.25" exhaust w/50series flowmasters

other cars:2003 Monte Carlo LS
1996 Dodge Stratus
http://community.webshots.com/user/bigcoop64


 
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