Zombie Dave
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08-04-12 03:06 PM - Post#2255726
I was thumbing through the manual to see where I could find out about this and if this gap was normal. Seems to have quite a bit of leakage going on as well. Any idea where this part is or where I can find it? I was more looking for a picture to see if that space was normal.Looked under transmissions and rear end.
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08-04-12 05:40 PM - Post#2255758
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If that is the ball at the rear of the transmission (far left in photo) then none of what I am looking at is normal. It almost appears that some one has attempted to patch the ball shaft with some kind of cover. Go here and look at the master parts catlouge for those parts. http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/ 
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08-04-12 06:22 PM - Post#2255775
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You're looking to go with an automatic and an open drive line, as I recall.
The pictured item looks like a home made fix that has not worked. 
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Zombie Dave
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08-04-12 09:15 PM - Post#2255845
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Yes I am. Won't be for a while unfortunately. I haven't located a rear end yet . I did find a Turbo 350 that I hope to pick up tomorrow. Supposed to be out of a 77 El Camino. I'm unsure of the tail length and what all to look for. I was wanting to go with Buffalo for the adapter plate but I guess they're phasing it out.
Here is a better picture of the mess under the car. I'll do some more reading in the meantime and check out the parts list.
You're looking to go with an automatic and an open drive line, as I recall.
The pictured item looks like a home made fix that has not worked.
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08-04-12 11:18 PM - Post#2255856
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It looks like a mass produced, aftermarket part, that was used to help control a leaking seal rather than tear things apart and repair it correctly. Almost the same kind of thing as the foil wrapping around the header pipe just in front of the muffler. I even looked in my 1966 J.C. Whitney catalog to see if they sold them, but it was'nt one of the gadgets they sold. It probably had some kind of material/batting/wrapping that the metal parts were clamped around, but it's rotted away or something. Someone will know just exactly what it is/was. Butch/56sedandelivery.
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08-05-12 05:36 AM - Post#2255886
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Well, mainly I know now it isn't supposed to be there. I will be converting it to a Turbo 350 eventually so this won't be an issue. I do hope it will get us to one car show down the block and then I'll begin the conversion over the winter.
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08-05-12 12:19 PM - Post#2256024
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Well, mainly I know now it isn't supposed to be there. I will be converting it to a Turbo 350 eventually so this won't be an issue. I do hope it will get us to one car show down the block and then I'll begin the conversion over the winter.
You mentioned Buffalo is phasing out .... out of business or just out of the adapter?
I thought Langdon was phasing out of the adapter, better snag one up from someone before you have none.
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08-05-12 02:48 PM - Post#2256085
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You're right. It's Langdon's phasing out the adapters. Buffalo have a website? I pull something up but can't click on anything.
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08-05-12 03:49 PM - Post#2256106
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Don't believe Buffalo has a website. Call only.
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08-05-12 04:26 PM - Post#2256121
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There's a new setup for sale on that auction site we all know and love; item # 400312963219 with a BIN of $225.00. NOT mine, or anyone I know. Butch/56sedandelivery.
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08-05-12 05:37 PM - Post#2256150
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I'll have to give them a call then. I chickened out on the 350 however. Didn't want to mess up and buy the wrong one. If there is such a thing. I did find a website the told a little bit about the Turbo 350s and the tail sizes.
Cool auction. From what the auction said it's for a 5 speed. I need an auto....lol no right leg.
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08-05-12 06:10 PM - Post#2256158
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ZD, When you speak to Buffalo or Langdon, ask and they will give you info as to which 350 to purchase. They have to have a heck of a lot more experience then us guys. 
Looking at your hometown, have gone there for KKOA events in the past. Jerry Titus is president of KKOA, had his roots in your town, as well.
One more idea here, speak to Patrick or his wife, Denise at Patricks in AZ. Bet they could and would assist you in proper 350 application. Like those folks very much, always take the time.
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08-06-12 04:11 PM - Post#2256494
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I was hoping to go to KKOA this year but decided to save the money and try and put it into the car instead. I think that would be a blast to attend!
I decided to hold off on the 350 because I didn't feel like I knew enough to make a wise decision, nor did I know what to look for when purchasing a Turbo 350.
I feel this panic because I want to drive this car so bad and don't want to have to wait another year but I'm not doing myself any favors by rushing into this. I decided to slow down, break it up into manageable steps and learn about each step.
I just want to do this right and since I don't have a welder or the skills needed to use one, was trying to take the most direct approach.
I will ask them for advice and see what they say. I need to do more reading and make notes as I don't retain much anymore lol
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08-06-12 04:19 PM - Post#2256497
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ZD,
Getting advise from Patricks would be good, IMHO, then getting a crossmember frmo Waltons would be good, as well, for he has a good reputation with CT members.
It will be a time consuming job, from adapter to rear axle, but planning each movement carefully will keep you from becoming over whelmed with the entire process.
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08-06-12 05:18 PM - Post#2256528
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Just checked out Waltons. Very cool! You just answered how the tranny is to be supported. Seems simple enough and no welding needed there. Drill out the rivets, bolt in place.
Thank you!!!
I'll call Patrick tomorrow and see what else I can figure out.
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08-06-12 05:36 PM - Post#2256532
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You're on a roll now
When yours is finished, you can give me tips to do mine. 
Gotta add one more thing. Back in the 50's, when the ole Olds / Pontiac 4 speed hydros were around, someone was making an adapter to bolt the 235 to the 4 speed hydro, maybe Honest Charlies speed shop, don't recall.
Now you may be too young to know, but that 4 speed hydro had a DEEP first year. You were in and out of 1st gear just that fast. Point is, the car sounded soooo bad a$$ with the 4 speed hydro and the Fenton dual exhaust.
You are now returned to your normal programming.
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08-06-12 05:43 PM - Post#2256537
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lol...That may be a little while. I'm feeling better about this though.
I want this to be my daily driver. Right now it's hard to start but I think that's just some bugs I need to work out. Main thing is getting this healthy and road worthy. Wiring will be the next main challenge. It's pretty bad.
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08-07-12 11:02 PM - Post#2256988
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Wow, that is really weird. I can't think of any possbile benefit that putting this sleeve on the shaft would do... and I just rebuilt mine. A leak? Play in the u-joints? Strange...
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08-07-12 11:22 PM - Post#2256993
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I used a YnZ harness in my 48. A little pricey, but good instructions. If you are adding turn signals ask them about adding them also.
I was relly worried about doing it, but got it done last week. Just a couple of more little things, but I am driving it now.
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08-07-12 11:53 PM - Post#2256999
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Just checked out Waltons. Very cool! You just answered how the tranny is to be supported. Seems simple enough and no welding needed there. Drill out the rivets, bolt in place.
Thank you!!!
I'll call Patrick tomorrow and see what else I can figure out.
Here's a picture of the Walton mount installed.
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08-07-12 11:54 PM - Post#2257000
In response to bobg1951chevy
You're on a roll now
When yours is finished, you can give me tips to do mine.
Gotta add one more thing. Back in the 50's, when the ole Olds / Pontiac 4 speed hydros were around, someone was making an adapter to bolt the 235 to the 4 speed hydro, maybe Honest Charlies speed shop, don't recall.
Now you may be too young to know, but that 4 speed hydro had a DEEP first year. You were in and out of 1st gear just that fast. Point is, the car sounded soooo bad a$$ with the 4 speed hydro and the Fenton dual exhaust.
You are now returned to your normal programming.
Chevrolet and GMC both used the hydros in their trucks with both SIX and EIGHT cylinder engines as an option (that's why NHRA allowed them in the tri-five Sedan Deliveries, as they were "trucks", even tho' they did'nt come from the factory with them). They even were used with torque tube drivelines in the earlier years (late 40's-early 50's). Hydros were used until I think 65 or 66 by Chevrolet and GMC, and even a little later by Rolls Royce and Bentley I believe. Also used in everything from Hudsons to Cadillac flathead V-8 powered tanks. Even Lincoln used them for a couple of years (a GM built transmission in a Ford product!) I guess that's why GM used the Dearborn (Ford) HD 3-speeds in Pont/Olds mid to late 60's, so as to return the "favor". B & M and Ansen, as well as others, made adapters to put almost anything up against the hydro. First gear was so low because they did'nt used a "torque converter", just a torus assembly for a fluid drive connection. I had a couple of B & M units for my Sedan Delivery projects, but lost interest and GAVE them away; sorry I did that now. Butch/56sedandelivery.
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08-08-12 12:45 PM - Post#2257185
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Bobg1951hevy ~ That Hydro sounds pretty cool. I gave Patrick's a call. I can't begin to tell you how impressed I am with him and his info. I at first was talking to someone else and the next thing I know another gentleman gets on the phone and introduces himself as Patrick and we begin talking about what I wanted to do and my options. He's like a lot of you guys and willingness to help. He had no dog in the fight on making money on me but was still more then willing to take the time and talk me through some options. Very nice guy and I'll open his catalog first when I need something and try and spend my money there first.
Heck of a guy.
DSactor~ I'm unsure about that exactly that is. I was wondering but thankfully I won't have to worry about it. I'll just get rid of it.
KeithKnox ~ I'll look into that harness. Was it a pretty simple install?
Bouncer~ That pic looks nice! Shows a lot of detail.
56sedandelivery ~ Lots of good info there. I don't know how you guys store so much knowledge.
Thanks again for all the responses.
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08-08-12 02:23 PM - Post#2257215
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I will always to to Patricks first for the exact reasons you have listed and experienced.
Did Patrick give you suggestions for your 350 application?
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08-08-12 07:14 PM - Post#2257314
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I do way too much Facebook. I keep wishing I could push a like button. lol
Patrick did give me some good solid advice.
Broke it down into three different options.
Engine
1) Same 235 that is in the car now. 1958-1962 235
2) 1953-1954 Power glide engine
3) Same 235 that is in the car now. 1958-1962 235
Transmission
1) 53-54 Power glide
2) 53-54 Power glide
3)200/700r
Rear end
1) 53-54 Power glide rear end
2) 53-54 Power glide
3) 55 and later 390
Number one low buck
Number two medium buck
Number three considerable more.
Good news is Saturday I'm going to be picking up a 54 pg setup with steering column.
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08-08-12 07:56 PM - Post#2257330
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I'm not clear on you options you listed but congrats on finding the PG and column.
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08-08-12 09:02 PM - Post#2257360
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I thought it was a fairly easy install, after I finally started on it. It took me about 6 weeks, but I am very slow. I'm retired and don't think I need to do things any faster than I want.
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08-08-12 09:39 PM - Post#2257374
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Is the wire harness you installed the one that is cloth covered, as the factory harness was ?
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08-08-12 09:55 PM - Post#2257381
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Each number goes together.
1) 235 that's in the car. Using (1) 53-54 power glide tranny and a (1) 53-54 power glide car rear end. ( Example )
I hope this makes it more clear.
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08-09-12 09:39 AM - Post#2257508
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I see ... I think.
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08-09-12 11:09 PM - Post#2257765
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They are cloth covered as per the following.
Modern automotive grade wire (GPT) is covered in cloth in the original colors then dipped in lacquer to protect the cloth.
We braid your harness in paper/cloth or 100% cotton as per original.
Here is thier web site.
http://www.ynzyesterdaysparts.com/
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