lilrobo
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07-10-12 10:00 AM - Post#2246562
what would be the best motor i can install,, something that would be the easiest for me ,
what years??? i know there will be some work
thanks
1958 Chevy Biscayne
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 50hotrod
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07-10-12 10:07 AM - Post#2246566
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Well, that all depends on what car or truck you have and what engine is in it now.
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lilrobo
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07-10-12 03:54 PM - Post#2246712
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i have a 58 biscayne 6cyl 235 w/2 speed powerglide
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 07-10-12 03:58 PM - Post#2246717
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Go with a truck based LS motor like a 5.3 or a 6.0...They are less expensive, generally, than the LS1/LS2/LS3, etc and will do a great job on your '58. Try to get the engine, trans, computer from a salvage unit so you will have everything that you need. Use Hooker or similar mount plates to bolt small block V-8 mounts to the motor and small block mounts for the chassis for a '58!! You're in!!
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lilrobo
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07-10-12 06:57 PM - Post#2246776
In response to wagonmaster
I didnt want computer,,wanted to stay with carb, still could go with 5.3 if it would bolt up ok, i dont want to get into alot modding right now,,
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07-11-12 04:07 AM - Post#2246871
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It will bolt up as described above...can use carb, but the 'puter is easy!
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lilrobo
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07-11-12 04:32 PM - Post#2247146
In response to wagonmaster
on the look for a motor now,
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lilrobo
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07-12-12 12:00 PM - Post#2247443
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Hey guys,i found a 327 motor, came for a 60's truck or something like that , he said i could have and try it and if i like it pay him 150 if not bring it back and pay nothing ,,,you guys think it might be ok to try ? He says it needs a carb, it floods bad now. I know i will have to change motor mounts,,and do pips ,, what else, will the linkage work for tranny ?
Thanks guys
1958 Chevy Biscayne
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2 speed P/G tranny |
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gbafus
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07-12-12 05:03 PM - Post#2247549
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I don't think your Powerglide will bolt up to a V-8 directly. I think the 235 Powerglide has a different bolt pattern than a V-8 tranny.
George
Chevrolets previously owned:
1947 Fleetline Aerosedan
1955 Bel-Air 4 Door Sedan
1958 Biscayne 2 Door Sedan "Maybelle"
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lilrobo
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07-13-12 03:21 AM - Post#2247679
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Hummm been told it would,have to do more research'he said it came from a 60's model truck maybe dont know for sure, is there anywere i can find out what will fit and what dont ??
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2 speed P/G tranny |
Edited by lilrobo on 07-13-12 03:38 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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lilrobo
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07-13-12 06:58 AM - Post#2247730
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A guy sent me this
When I ran the numbers on the engine I believe it said 1958 to 1962 passenger car, the 4 digit code for the date ended in "zero" that indicated it was built in 1960.The engine Number is 375659 and the date code is J280--look it up.
This is for a 283 motor he is asking 350 ,you know i am looking for something simple ,dont see why the 283 wont just bolt up, being tha it came from a 1960 it should have the same tranny( cast iron ), even if i took my time and rebuild it before hand ?
Thansk guys
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2 speed P/G tranny |
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07-13-12 07:29 AM - Post#2247744
In response to lilrobo
V8 and I6 have different transmission bolt pattern. Frame mounts for the two are different. Front driveshaft may be different.
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lilrobo
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07-13-12 02:01 PM - Post#2247872
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i just read :
First thing to answer is this a six cylinder cast iron air cooled PowerGlide or a V-8 version that has hydraulic oil cooling lines running to the radiator? If you have tranny cooling lines at your radiator and a cast iron case it is a V-8 version.
so i do have line running to my tranny means that i have the v8 version 
1958 Chevy Biscayne
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Edited by lilrobo on 07-13-12 02:27 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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gbafus
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07-13-12 02:45 PM - Post#2247878
In response to lilrobo
i just read :
First thing to answer is this a six cylinder cast iron air cooled PowerGlide or a V-8 version that has hydraulic oil cooling lines running to the radiator? If you have tranny cooling lines at your radiator and a cast iron case it is a V-8 version.
so i do have line running to my tranny means that i have the v8 version
Six cylinder and V-8 versions of the Powerglide each had cooler lines. Never heard of a air cooled 'Glide.
If you want to put a V-8 in that Biscayne, I'd recommend putting a TH350 tranny behind it. It's an easy swap. Much lighter, & you get 3 forward speeds.
Find a short tailshaft version.
George
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1947 Fleetline Aerosedan
1955 Bel-Air 4 Door Sedan
1958 Biscayne 2 Door Sedan "Maybelle"
1977 Monte Carlo
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lilrobo
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07-13-12 04:01 PM - Post#2247903
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that being said will a same year v8 bolt up to a i6 PG
read it here under bid dave
http://www.impalas.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-...
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Edited by lilrobo on 07-13-12 04:03 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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lilrobo
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07-14-12 03:57 AM - Post#2248027
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here is what i know so far 283 was 57-67, 327 was 62-69 so i have 2 choices 283 or rebuild mine ,i sure have learned a lot in the last few days you guys have been a great help thanks you all , now i have to make up my mind
thanks again
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2 speed P/G tranny |
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 DonSSDD
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07-14-12 04:44 AM - Post#2248034
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When they went to the aluminum powerglide in 63 for 6's, they went from a 235 to a 230 and they used the same bolt pattern on the 6 and the 8. So if you have a 6 cylinder cast iron powerglide, it won't bolt to any V8. You would need a V8 cast iron glide or an aluminum glide.
The air cooled powerglide was available in an aluminum powerglide in smaller engines, maybe in a Chevy II. They will work on a V8, I know someone who had one on a 409, but they are not very strong. The 265, 409, 283, 327, and 350 V8 all have the same transmission mounting holes.
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lilrobo
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07-14-12 08:18 AM - Post#2248094
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ohh thats not good ,i thought i had a v8 tranny cause of the cooling lines well it leaning towards more and more to rebuild mine ( 235 )
thanks for the info , i am getting more every day
1958 Chevy Biscayne
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2 speed P/G tranny |
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07-14-12 01:46 PM - Post#2248181
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lilrobo,
Don't know if you've seen this ad or not (listed in the ChevyTalk classifieds in this same forum section), or would even be interested but it could be something to check on if you're close by. Don't know your location as it's not listed.
http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?ti...
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lilrobo
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07-14-12 04:26 PM - Post#2248215
In response to 62sedan
No i havent seen it , i just did , i dont know were it was
I would rebuild mine first so th numbers would match if i stayd with 6 cyl
Thanks
1958 Chevy Biscayne
235 6 cyl
2 speed P/G tranny |
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lilrobo
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07-15-12 11:08 AM - Post#2248413
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well looks like the starter, flex plate, and mounts are the same on the i6 and v8(283) i just all the parts up and they have the same part number , so looking good for far,, only thing so far is linkage and pips
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235 6 cyl
2 speed P/G tranny |
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07-16-12 06:34 AM - Post#2248666
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If my Mounts you mean the engine mounts, they are different between the I6 and the 283. Someone here on the forum (Jens?) posted photos comparing the two, the I6 being taller than the V8 version. That was one of the items I had to change for my swap.
I'm not sure if it was mentioned before, but look out for the V8 fan shroud and fan spacer as the fan will be further from the radiator with the V8.
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Kamakazi620
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07-17-12 08:56 AM - Post#2249068
In response to models916
Yet to bolt the cast iron 'glide up to a small block all you need is the "V8" factory adapter.ALL cast iron glides bolted right up to the 216/235.look up some pictures on V8 cast iron powerglides there is an adapter in between the trans and engine.Here is what you need to bolt up cast iron 'Glide to small block http://www.ebay.com/itm/1956-57-Chevy-Bel air-38367...
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Kamakazi620
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07-17-12 09:00 AM - Post#2249070
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All chevy small blocks are the same on the outside,+ you can bolt in a big block where a small block was motor mounts are in the same place and bellhousings are the same
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fuzzyff
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07-17-12 12:24 PM - Post#2249133
In response to lilrobo
here's 2 ways to go that would have a true "1958" factory connection: find a 283 or 348 Chev V8 w/Powerglide (or Turboglide, what the heck).....or....get a '57 or '58 Chev pickup-type 283 with 4-speed Hydramatic. Either way it remains near stock but much more cool. Just my opinion based upon 40 years working on old Chevs.
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07-18-12 10:39 AM - Post#2249507
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he cant use a '57 283,those didnt have side motor mounts....
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fuzzyff
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07-18-12 02:19 PM - Post#2249584
In response to Kamakazi620
sure enough, the 57 engine block would necessitate a front mount adaptor, while the 57 V8 Hydramatic would be quite the jewel for a 58 Chev w/a Chev V8. It is Still the Only factory-made 4-speed (non-overdrive)automatic ever made for a Chevrolet, and makes a PowerGlide a ridiculous choice for a gearbox.
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lilrobo
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07-18-12 05:06 PM - Post#2249638
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What about a 55 235 are they all the same too?
I have guy that is going to give me one i think,, and maybe tranny also
Thanks guys thats was alot of good info there,,
Thanks all i need now is a big billfold lol
1958 Chevy Biscayne
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2 speed P/G tranny |
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07-18-12 05:38 PM - Post#2249648
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If you're still set on a 235, you'd be better served with one of a little later date as most 55's DID NOT have oil filters (unless it was dealer fitted). Just my opinion.
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fuzzyff
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07-18-12 05:53 PM - Post#2249656
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a 55 engine would not have the side/engine mounts that 58 frames use; so some sort of adaptor would be needed to easily slip it in there. Otherwise OK. And, I understand about the billfold, that limits how much you can do, hope you can find a setup that fits your needs. What about a 55 235 are they all the same too?
I have guy that is going to give me one i think,, and maybe tranny also
Thanks guys thats was alot of good info there,,
Thanks all i need now is a big billfold lol
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