Danishbanker
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07-09-12 12:42 AM - Post#2245976
I have a few, for you guys "easy questions" :-)
My oilpump pick has been weelded - how do I check it sits in the right position in the oilpan??
I have a feldpro gasket set - kork oilpan and timing cover gasket. Do I use a thin silicon seal on each side of the gasket?? or just the gasket it self??
Do you guys use a tourqewrench to the little bolts on those covers??
Thanks / Claus
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 50hotrod
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07-09-12 07:20 AM - Post#2246058
In response to Danishbanker
If your using the cork gaskets place a large glob of silicon on each of the 4 corners where the rubber seal meets the cork.
I don't use a torque wrench on the cover bolts but then again I've done 100's of engines. When in doubt use a torque wrench.
Putty the pickup and set the pan on. I just set it on and push down with only the cork gaskets in place NOT the front and rear seals. Now remove and measure the putty thickness.
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 MikeB
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07-09-12 01:19 PM - Post#2246172
In response to 50hotrod
Play-Doh or clay works well.
Real Hot Rods have a Clutch!
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Danishbanker
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07-09-12 01:51 PM - Post#2246183
In response to MikeB
Thanks - I´ll get some from a kids store tomorrow ;-)
What about the timind cover - just the gasket ?? or silicon on both sides ?
/Claus
Edited by Danishbanker on 07-09-12 01:59 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Rick_L
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07-09-12 02:53 PM - Post#2246235
In response to Danishbanker
If you haven't assembled the short block yet, put the oil pump on the bare block, then put the pan on (no gasket needed).
You should be able to use spacer blocks (or your fingers) to check the clearance by looking/reaching through the rear cylinders.
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07-09-12 04:14 PM - Post#2246280
In response to Danishbanker
i alwayw put a thin coat of silicon on both sides and a good bit in the corners where the pan gasket meets the cover gasket.
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07-09-12 04:48 PM - Post#2246292
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http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?...
http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?...
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Danishbanker
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07-10-12 07:07 AM - Post#2246495
In response to grumpyvette
Hmmm Couldn´t locate any playdoe today :-((
Så I plan to put on the heads. I cant see any upside/downside´marks on the blue feldpro head gasket - should there be??
Do you guys use something special on the threads on the head bolts?? or do you just oil the threads and tourq them to specs??
And I just clean the surfices on the block and heads before putting them together?
Thanks / Claus
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Danishbanker
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07-10-12 08:29 AM - Post#2246517
In response to Danishbanker
I plan to put on the heads. I cant see any upside/downside´marks on the blue feldpro head gasket - should there be??
Do you guys use something special on the threads on the head bolts?? or do you just oil the threads and tourq them to specs??
And I just clean the surfices on the block and heads before putting them together?
Thanks / Claus
Here are a few pics on the valve/head job - I think it came out nice ;-)
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50hotrod
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07-10-12 08:53 AM - Post#2246530
In response to Danishbanker
I install the felpro blue perm-a-seal gasket with the perfect round sealing ring UP.
Liquid Teflon on the head bolt threads and oil under the bolt head.
Heads look good. The seats are a little large for my liking, that is if they are being shone already lapped but should work fine.
You can never be "TOO" clean when prepping or assembling an engine.
Be sure to use a heavy lube (assembly lube) on the valve stems and seals.
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Danishbanker
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07-20-12 01:06 PM - Post#2250296
In response to 50hotrod
Just godt back from a few days vacation in Germany - and before that I primed and painted the engine ;-)
So tomorrow I aim to adjust the valves - which brings the question...
My Chevy engine book shows to adjust the valve with a 360 degres disc - which I dont have :-(
Can any one explain or link to a web page telling me how to do it with finding the compression top on the # 1 cyl - and the adjust ? and ? valve, and then the compression top on the 2 cyl etc ??
Thanks / Claus
Here a few pics ;-)
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07-20-12 06:14 PM - Post#2250410
In response to Danishbanker
If you use my method you don't need any timing marks on the balancer or a degree wheel.
To set any intake valve, rotate the engine until the exhaust valve on that cylinder is just opening. Set the intake valve.
To set any exhaust valve, rotate the engine until the intake valve is just about to close. Set the exhaust valve.
It does not matter what order you do them in. All you have to know is which ones are intakes and which are exhausts. All you have to do is keep track of which ones you've set so that you know when you are done.
To find 0 lash with hydraulic lifters, grasp the pushrod with your finger and thumb and move it vertically until there's no vertical motion as you tighten the adjuster nut. If you rotate the pushrod, you won't detect friction until you've gone too far.
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Danishbanker
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08-05-12 08:33 AM - Post#2255935
In response to Rick_L
I am putting my Weiand Stelth intake on - and in the gasket set there is these metal "restrictors"..
I can imagen they restrict the waterflow in the head right?? but do they HAVE to be installed?? if not how do I determin that I need them ?? do they have to be on booth sides??
Thanks / Claus
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08-05-12 08:47 AM - Post#2255940
In response to Danishbanker
thats the intake exhaust flow port that heats the plenum, I generally block it off totally but remember I live in florida where its almost always 70F or higher outside
http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?...
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08-05-12 09:23 PM - Post#2256235
In response to Danishbanker
I am putting my Weiand Stelth intake on - and in the gasket set there is these metal "restrictors"..
I can imagen they restrict the waterflow in the head right?? but do they HAVE to be installed?? if not how do I determin that I need them ?? do they have to be on booth sides??
Thanks / Claus
Thats the heat crossover to heat the plenum under your carb. Most performance builders block it off as Grumpy said. But if its a street machine and you have cold winters is a good idea to leave it open if your intake also has the crossover.
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Danishbanker
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08-06-12 05:24 AM - Post#2256292
In response to busterrm
Thanks for your input.
By "leave it open" is that just the gasket?? or do I install the metal pieces??
/Claus
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50hotrod
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08-06-12 06:42 AM - Post#2256309
In response to Danishbanker
I have done it either way. Open if you have no matching ports in the manifold. If you live in a cold climate and have matching ports in the manifold you might want to install the restrictor plates. It slows the manifold heating to the rate in which the block heats and keeps everything even.
Closed or blocked is preferred in racing applications or warm weather usage only when you have ports in the manifold.
Are there matching ports in the new manifold?
If not it does not matter if restrictor plates are used or not.
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Rick_L
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08-06-12 07:50 AM - Post#2256322
In response to 50hotrod
A Stealth Ram doesn't have the matching ports, no need to block with the gasket.
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Danishbanker
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08-06-12 08:27 AM - Post#2256341
In response to Rick_L
Here is the pic of the weiand Stealth and gasket:
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busterrm
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08-06-12 05:52 PM - Post#2256542
In response to Danishbanker
Here is the pic of the weiand Stealth and gasket:
I agree if your cold weather might be a good idea to use the restrictor plates. Get a good seal, thats could be a source of vac leak.
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Rick_L
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08-07-12 06:38 AM - Post#2256696
In response to busterrm
My bad. It does have a passage.
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Danishbanker
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08-20-12 11:19 AM - Post#2261339
In response to Rick_L
Hi Guys
I am on the finally stroke before putting the engine back in the car ;-)
I have hooked up an 100 psi oilgauge and I can drill it up to about 60 psi..( wiht the electrical drill maschine ) but no matter how long I run it I do not get any oil up thru the pushrods ?!?!
Do I have to go higher than 60 psi ?? Or have I done something wrong when priming the oilpump ??
/Claus
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08-21-12 07:06 AM - Post#2261642
In response to Danishbanker
I think you may have a problem. You should be getting oil to the rockers using an electric drill.
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08-21-12 08:33 AM - Post#2261674
In response to Danishbanker
Turn the engine over a little to align the lifter hole to the oil path.
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Danishbanker
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08-22-12 08:30 AM - Post#2262019
In response to models916
Did a few 1/4 turns between priming - and now oil is floting nicely to alle rockers - thanks ;-)
/Claus
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