impala dude 831
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 07-06-12 12:19 AM - Post#2244974
HELLO CHEVY MANIA,I HAVE A GOOD TOPIC,WHICH YEAR FROM THE IMPALA LINEUP HAS MORE APPEAL,VALUE,RARITY,THE LOOKS,DESIGN,STANCE,COLOR S,CHROMES ETC..LET ME KNO THANKS ..
I THINK THE 59 IMPALA IS SO SWEET ,THE STANCE,CHROMES,TWO TONE COLORS,ENGINE TYPES,DESIGN,CUTS,BACK TRUNK DESIGN,TAIL LIGHT CAT EYE EFFECT,CLEAN REAR LOOK,SIDE CHROMES ,FRONT FENDER TOP CHROMES, FENDER SPEAR TOP CHROMES,FENDER TOP JET CHROMES,GRILL DESIGN,WITH NIPPLE CHROMES ON IT,HOOD SCREENS,BUMPERS,INTERIOR LOOK AND COLORS,FENDER SWORD CHROMES BIG ROCKER  CHROMES,NICE LOOKING HUBCAPS,ETC..BEAUTIFUL YEAR RITE THERE I MUST SAY.JUST WELL BUILT,AND WELL DESIGNED IMPALA CLASSIC.PLUS 59 I BELIEVE IS THE FIRST EVER IMPALA NO BEL AIR LIKE 58 HALF BEL AIR HALF IMPALA..PEACE LET ME KNO GUYS..
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07-06-12 04:05 AM - Post#2244986
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I think the value of all the ragtops are way high these days, but the highest I've seen, consistently, are the 1958 models. Not sure I understand your statement, since all '58 ragtops are Impalas. One year stand alone body style may have something to do with it, but that's what I think....The 1959 model that you mention are sweet for sure, but aren't they all??
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07-06-12 04:17 AM - Post#2244988
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I too would have to say the 58 Impala, both hardtop and convertible. The 1st year Impala styling is amazing, the rear tail lights integrated with the subdued tail fins, the air vent above the rear window, and my favrorite... the anadized aluminum door panel inserts.
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07-06-12 07:35 AM - Post#2245053
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I too agree that '58 tends to fetch the highest prices... however... since I have been looking for one... '59 verts are getting harder to find then '58s lately... and the ones for sale are certainly not cheap.
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07-06-12 08:05 AM - Post#2245068
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I must agree, my favs are def the 59 & 61 models, never have been a big fan of the 58..not sure why, I will say that I've seen more 58s (both hardtop and vert) for sale (cheaper than 59) vs 59s. 59 Verts are harder and more expensive to find...although a few years ago, well about 15, 59s were almost being given away...trends I guess..Im just glad I was able to secure a true surviving 59 with 348 numbers matching!
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impala dude 831
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 07-06-12 02:25 PM - Post#2245197
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So why is it that a lot of guys around bay area ,say 58 really ain't a true impala ,if my info is correct I belive the 1959 was the true no bel air impala rite?everywhere I read that 58 is part bel air.if that's really true the 58 is not a (true) impala.59 its not just cuz I dig 59's but u never see 59 in project from or ready to sell,maybe couple projects pop out here and there but it seems like every year after 61 are like a dime a dozen way too many out thats what makes the 59 super rare in my book.plus let's be real also a lot of guys I know don't like 61 at all ,the big huge aquarium back window funky look to it,less appeal more of a clean look with minimal chromes ..smaller too for sum reason..
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impala dude 831
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07-06-12 02:33 PM - Post#2245203
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rite on boss u know the deal 59 rite,just way too cool,plus check this out I owned a 58 hardtop impala and I sold once I had it for couple months ,pictures look cool but when it's parked in the garage it didn't fit me personaly,I like the 58 side chromes and all that but the overall car u must love in order to keep it.I went with the 59 the rest is history..peace.. 
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impala dude 831
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07-06-12 02:34 PM - Post#2245206
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Thank u for replying..
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impala dude 831
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07-06-12 02:39 PM - Post#2245208
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So why is that tho ? Less made of the 59 ,I see 59 done up impalas goin over 35k to 40k or more for hardtop,verts top over 70 thousand big dollers..that's a gang of loot if u ask me..the high value for the 58 and 59 mean something super rare 58 and 59 are all keepers guys.. 
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impala dude 831
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 07-06-12 02:41 PM - Post#2245209
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Thanks ..
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07-06-12 03:48 PM - Post#2245244
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Dude,
The 1958 Impala is also a stand alone model. It shares nothing other than a basic shape with the Bel Air. The '58 has less in common with the Bel Air, in my opinion, than the '59,'60 or the '61. Has a completely different roof line and tailight treatment than the Bel Air. Still, ALL are cool rides!!
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arnieg141
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07-06-12 04:38 PM - Post#2245252
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1961 bubble top ---1963 409
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07-06-12 04:44 PM - Post#2245255
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"why is it that a lot of guys around the bay area, say 58 really ain't a true impala?"
Because they have spent too much time in the bay water and their shorts are too tight.
However the '58 Impala, by looking at the VIN #s is part of the 1700-1800 Bel Air series. The 1700 series being the 6-cyl., the 1800 the 8-cyl. A 1958 V8 Bel Air Sport Coupe is a 1831 an Impala Sport coupe is a 1847.
The '58 Impala is still a stand alone model.
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07-07-12 05:30 AM - Post#2245352
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1961 bubble top ---1963 409
He was asking about convertibles...
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07-07-12 06:21 AM - Post#2245364
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NADA Pricing
1958 Impala Convertible:
http://www.nadaguides.com/classic-cars/1958/Che vro...
1959 Impala Convertible:
http://www.nadaguides.com/classic-cars/1959/Che vro...
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arnieg141
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07-07-12 07:05 AM - Post#2245371
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1961 bubble top ---1963 409
He was asking about convertibles...
joe in his post he does not ask convertibles just impala's
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07-07-12 07:24 AM - Post#2245374
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now if your talking the 1958 thru 1960 it would be 58/60 convert. then hard top ..the 59 was to many car people chevy's edsel..but many also say if it ain't got the 3 tail lights it ain't realy an impala
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impala dude 831
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07-07-12 10:41 AM - Post#2245430
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 I talked with a Chevy expert 40 years exp,he said hey john come on now don't let people fool u,its part bel air people ,stop jocking a year that ain't a real impala ,who really cares if it don't have three lights ,the factory at Chevrolet plants all over USA knew 59 was leaving the bel air attachment ,that's what made the whole impala craze start,the undisputed heavy weight champion is the famous ,rare,beautiful 1959 impala !! Case closed .do heavy research before commenting ,don't take it wrong were all here for true real answers,not just opinions..peace..
Jp da impala dude 831
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impala dude 831
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07-07-12 10:53 AM - Post#2245439
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sorry pal,peep this information out I know a thing or too about these mobbers ,if real impalas have threes lights to be a true impala,I think the 59 is a one year,stand alone design that can't be topd ,true impala cuz all the research I have come across mentions leaving the bel air / impala name,and go with a top of the line model impala only name.so that makes almost every year after 59 not unique,yes they have 6 lights yes there all sweet let's keep it real guys 59 is the true impala hands down case closed ,a true impala with rare rear lights aka the cat eyes.. your making it seem 59 is crap compared to other impalas stop it bro..we real impala heads know what were taking about .everything after 59 is everywhere sorry,even when u drive around in your town u never see a 59 ever..I been in cali my whole life boss,hardly any cruising or being fixd just a couple pop up but not like other years..till next time bottoms up..am tipn my cap towards the 59 ,not just cuz I dig em,because any impala year can't best it.real talk..
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impala dude 831
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07-07-12 11:03 AM - Post#2245447
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59 was a people's car ,are u kidding me..lol,I don't think so impalas were stil expensive at the time back then ,even if they were worth under 3 k New or whatever ,it was still loot in the late 50's so impala was the top of the line u had to have money and be well off to own one,people's cars was anything besides the impala cuz it was harder to buy the top of the line impala sorry real talk there don't like miss information on here ..
Jp da impala dude 831 
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07-07-12 11:27 AM - Post#2245453
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dude i'am not kidding.. it was chevy's edsle/ if ralph nadder realy did his work the 59 would have been the car unsafe the tail wings at highway speeds on dry roads but esp.in rain or snow the rear of car is so loose on road from air lift it's a death trap .thats why you see less 1959 impala's than any other year impala...in 1960 they fixed the big mistack with less wing and 3 lights
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07-07-12 12:30 PM - Post#2245469
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Lawsy Mussy, I think some folks on here started martini hour early.
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impala dude 831
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07-08-12 01:03 AM - Post#2245611
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,hey now the more u speak trips me out ,wing drag are u kidding me again boss,wow wing drag ,now who in the hell is going to mobb top speed to du that its a classic Chevy impala u mobb slow in them don't u know.. I been driving impalas since 15 with no license hogging the streets up,young kid with a 64 two door hardtop taking it to high school everyone knew me bro,real talk I was the only guy for four years at high school with a impala ,am 30 still doing it ..wing drag wow u gotta be flying top speeds in the death trap and have bald tires and weak steering or something for that jinx to happen .even if  they reduced the wings a bit it don't make sense at all ,cuz 60 almost looks the same, little less wings but still there,wouldn't u figure if it was a death trap they would steer away from the flaw design.I think u were in a old plane tripn.lol peace next topic ..
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impala dude 831
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07-08-12 01:37 AM - Post#2245612
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,check this out penny ,early martini drinking ,smells like a hater ,it seems like it got to u huh 58 owner ,I sold my 58 ,don't miss it eithr, ,go ahead and Cruz the bel air lol ...its yours not mines ..sell it for a 59 vert.tiny engine compartment, big o huge front fenders ughh.case closed don't hate my topic if its all true. u must love it to jock it.I will put down pink slips if u ask ten people what year would u love to own, 58 or 59 seven to eight people would say 59 if they really know looks and rarity,and value,martini drinking huh.. so weak..my phantom triple black impala 59 is in the making ,not to be messed with.   ,and too keep it real I don't like convertibles any year AMA hardtop lover how many impala dudes say that hardtops are sick man,they have roofs ,headliners,chromes on top,and sweet back window. Enuf said your getn burned..u read my topic and can't reply with a opinion just hating comments.wow  and if want more of me reply I would love to get back at u.
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07-08-12 02:54 AM - Post#2245615
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you asked impala more rare and collectable!! most impala owner/collecters would say for this 58 to 66 for impalas .but the 59/66 would be at end of the line both of which make great in town riders and great parade flots.as fare as not seeing very many is because most people junked both 59/66 and did not save them as much.not saying some people don't like them i do.but if putting down hard cash today to buy an impala .the 59 and 66 would be at back of list.as for the 59 owners if you own and like them and was part of your youth nothing wrong with that you collect what means some thing to you
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07-08-12 03:38 AM - Post#2245618
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if ralph nadder realy did his work the 59 would have been the car unsafe the tail wings at highway speeds on dry roads but esp.in rain or snow the rear of car is so loose on road from air lift it's a death trap .
WHAT????? You've got to be kidding!! 
If they were so dangerous and the rear lifted at speed, why were they run in NASCAR? And more importantly...... how do you explain the fact they won races without becoming airborne?
What you've stated is nothing more than an old wives tale (or worse).
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07-08-12 04:52 AM - Post#2245623
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chuck true! but you know nascar the crew can compensate for any flaw.and tricks of raceing springs and weight shift trick tires and those yrs. you could do almost any thing to a car not like to day where every car needs to be simmalr .it's not like highway driveing with cross winds rain or ice/snow.and don't for get pro driver.and the cars they raced where not the cars you bought of show room floors..but he wanted more rare and collectable.but in a auction if you lined up by year all same color and best stock interior and best hi porformance drive stock train all same condition and history one owner cars.the 59 and 66 would be the last 2 picked
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07-08-12 05:14 AM - Post#2245626
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I LOVE THIS PLACE !!!
Now if we could just get "1963 Bel Air COPO Man" back......
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07-08-12 05:59 AM - Post#2245632
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Too damned funny, Richard. Thanks for the memories!! 
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07-08-12 08:38 AM - Post#2245679
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Chuck,
I would hardly consider nascar anything but a bunch of money hungry old men.
The sport is centered on cheating and not getting caught.
Kind of like bringing the NHTSA into a discussion of safety. They come in after the manufacturer has made something SO bad that it should not be sold.
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