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06-27-12 09:25 PM - Post#2242135
Has anyone ever seen a double flare male/male 3/16" coupler? Or a 3/16" male double flare with a 3/8" pipe thread? I am looking to mount my residual check valve right off the master but I can't find these fittings. Appreciate the help. Thanks - Kurt
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06-28-12 04:41 AM - Post#2242180
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You can get those at advanced auto and some times at hardware stores, inverted flare is what you need
http://fittingsandadapter s.com/inflartubdou.html
http://fittingsandadapter s.com/inflarfit.html
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06-28-12 11:35 AM - Post#2242286
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Try Aeroquip or AN fittings.
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06-28-12 04:53 PM - Post#2242366
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Pete - I am looking for a fitting that is a Male on both sides with the inverted flare. Or a fitting that is male on both sides, one with an inverted flare and the other a 3/8" pipe fitting. Can't seem to find them anywhere. I have not looked in the aeroquip catalog. I will look tonight.
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06-28-12 05:53 PM - Post#2242380
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Male-to-male 3/16" brake line fitting is kind of unusual. It would have a flare and tube nut on each end.  This is an inverted flare union and very common. It receives a flared tube and tube nut on each end.
Also, which component in your brake system uses 3/8" pipe thread? M/C ports are typically 1/2-20, 9/16-18, or 3/8-24 threads. The latter is the same thread as 3/16 tube nuts.
A picture or drawing of what you're trying to do would be nice.
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06-28-12 06:31 PM - Post#2242400
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You can also look at your nearest Army/Navy surplus store, sometimes they will have AN fittings. Some of the streetrod buisness's cary them also. They have bulkhead (thru frame) fittings as well as unions etc.
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06-28-12 07:42 PM - Post#2242423
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Thing is, the original question wasn't about AN fittings. Nothing wrong with using them properly, but in this case it would probably mean a lot more work and expense just to adapt some residual valves, which don't have AN fittings to start with.
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06-28-12 07:59 PM - Post#2242433
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I am installing a residual check valve in the rear line and wanted to connect the valve directly to the MC port. Can't do it with the current fittings available. None that I have been able to find. Yes, I could use a short line to the valve but that isn't what I had in mind. I was just curious if there was a fitting that I could use but haven't found it yet.
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06-29-12 04:55 AM - Post#2242517
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Not sure if its the right one 2403 http://www.discounthydraulichose.com/SAE_37_Flare_...
http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/detail.ex?sku...
http://www.hydraulicsdirect.com/2403_SAE_070101_p/...
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06-29-12 12:27 PM - Post#2242660
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37 degree means -AN fitting. He needs a 3/16" brake line fitting with tube nuts on each end, which would look like a short brake line. I don't think I've ever seen one.
I think Kurt may have to run a line down from the M/C to the valve. I always like to put them down on the frame.
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06-29-12 06:11 PM - Post#2242778
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I've never seen one like that either. A short line seems to be what is going to have to happen.
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06-30-12 06:06 AM - Post#2242881
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/MASTER-CYLINDER-P ROPORTION...
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06-30-12 08:32 AM - Post#2242917
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Ditto on MikeB's post #2242380, DRAW US A PICTURE. Sounds to me like a 3/8" to -3 AN fitting? ? ? ?
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06-30-12 01:22 PM - Post#2243011
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Check out CPP's MC adapters, they have 3/8"-24 x -3AN fittings plus more.
LB
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06-30-12 02:09 PM - Post#2243024
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http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDe tai...
This is 8" long. Next one up is 12". Wrap either around a round object & make a circle with the ends touching. It will be a good vibration absorber also.
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06-30-12 03:56 PM - Post#2243044
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I ended up making my own shorty line similar to the ebay item that pistol posted. I will post a picture when I get home of the setup. I guess there just isn't enough demand for the items I was looking for. I didn't want to go the AN route as it would be too busy and have too many fittings, and be more expensive.
It works with the shorty and is a clean install.
BTW - the 3/8" pipe thread would go into the residual valve.
Thanks for the input everyone! Great site!!!
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06-30-12 06:01 PM - Post#2243093
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Hooraa! ! !
Semper Fi,
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07-01-12 11:37 AM - Post#2243332
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BTW - the 3/8" pipe thread would go into the residual valve.
Glad you found a solution.
3/8" pipe thread on a residual valve? That's huuuuge! Most are 1/8" NPT female and come with inverted flare adapters to fit 3/16 line and tube nuts. Here's one now.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WIL-260-3279/
Again, those are 1/8" pipe thread, not to be confused with 3/8"-24 machine threads used on 3/16" brake line fittings.
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07-02-12 12:27 PM - Post#2243654
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Did I say 3/8'?????? I meant what you knew Mike!!
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07-03-12 05:13 PM - Post#2244143
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Here are some pics of the new master cylinder, residual check valve, line lock(behind the cover), and lines. I also installed Wilwood dual piston calipers and 12.5" rotors.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/76690913@N06/7 4978984...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/76690913@N06/7 4978967...
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07-03-12 05:23 PM - Post#2244147
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WOW, Nice job. I see now what you wanted. A 3/16" tube nut to a 1/8" pipe 90 deg. Those should be available. Anywhoo looks good as it is. Good job.
LB
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07-03-12 05:25 PM - Post#2244149
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That looks slick Bler. What to you call the dark colored lines you used? where do you get that?
Is it 1/4 inch line?
I have to begin the brake plumbing job on my Nomad build soon, and considering all my options. I like that dark colored hard line for some reason.
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07-04-12 06:50 AM - Post#2244356
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PEP BOYS has in 25' rolls. Don't remember the price but it's not bad.
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07-04-12 02:38 PM - Post#2244510
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Thanks Gents. It's a 3/16" line that has a coating. Not sure what type of coating it is but I guess it's for corrosion resistance. FYI - I had to go through quite a few lines to find good flares. China crap again??!! Not sure where they were manufactured but it was a pain to have to worry about a production flare. I went through a couple flares as well when I was doing my own. Anyone know of a good flaring tool brand? I need a new one. (now that I'm done)
The brakes work well and the manual pedal is not as bad as I thought it would be. Overall happy with it. Really cleans up the engine bay without the booster. Future plans are for 11" drums on the rear.
BTW - I now have a 9" dual diaphragm with corvette 1" dual master and CPP 2" drop spindles with discs and ceramic pads for sale if anyone is interested. 
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07-04-12 02:46 PM - Post#2244513
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Semper FI LB. thank you for your service!!
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07-04-12 02:56 PM - Post#2244517
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Bler57,
Eastwood has a couple of flaring tools from kind of inexpensive to pricey. CPP has a tutorial on flaring tools on their website. Imperial has a good manual one also.
Glad you have good binders now. Too bad I just bought a dual diaphram booster or I'd take you up on it.
Happy 4th,
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07-04-12 04:53 PM - Post#2244550
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On flaring tools, I used a K-D for a long time but the clamp started slipping on one size. Tried some clamps from cheap sets but they always slipped.
A couple of years ago I bought a Ridgid 345-DL double flare tool and it works flawlessly.
The coated preflared tube from the auto supply is hard to re-flare. Sometimes you find tubing that is undersize and that doesn't work well either.
The tubing that I've bought in bulk seems much better. I've used both the uncoated steel tube from Summit as well as copper/nickel alloy tube sold by Brake Quip. The copper/nickel tube is very easy to work with. It has a copper flash plate, it only takes a few strokes with Scotchbrite to remove this, underneath is a durable nickel finish.
The copper/nickel alloy tube is used on most European cars. Mercedes, BMW, Audi. I have a local tube and hose supply that stocks the Brake Quip copper/nickel tube.
The Ridgid flare tool will also double flare stainless steel lines if they are the right alloy, heat treat, and wall thickness. Inline Tube sells tube like that.
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07-04-12 09:52 PM - Post#2244624
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LB and Rick - Thanks for the info on the flaring tools and tubing. I will do some research this weekend. Thanks again and Happy 4th!! Kurt
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07-05-12 04:36 AM - Post#2244646
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I have a hydraulic flaring tool from Mac. Works great but very pricey. I figured it was worth it since I own seven cars and five of them are projects.
Jay
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07-05-12 01:34 PM - Post#2244780
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Super clean, man.  And there's just something about turquoise Tri-fives.
Hey, I just bought the 7/8" unpolished version of your Wilwood M/C for my 55 with manual brakes. My current GM M/C has a 1" bore, but I'm looking for a shade more line pressure to the calipers, and for something that looks nicer.
The Rustoleum paint on my old cast iron M/C body is holding up well, but the gold cadmium-plated (or whatever) cover is starting to look nasty, even though I painted it with clear a few years ago. 
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