 Panama Red
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06-12-12 12:43 PM - Post#2236262
In response to 6-bangertim
Tim, I haven't done a compression test since I installed the engine. Now that you ask, I may have to do that just to record the base line numbers. Don't know the vacuum psi either but I'll be happy to check it for you later this week. Dick at More Power, the guy that spec'd the cam, likes the dual pattern stuff. He contends it "makes the engine think it has higher compression than it really does." I know your pain of needing vacuum for disc brakes. Back in the 70's I drag raced a Z-28 Camaro in Stock Eliminator. Used a General Kinetics cam that was pretty radical. At the end of the 1/4 mi, I'd flip the shifter into neutral and stand on the brake pedal cuz the vacuum assist was nil!! Used up a lot of shut down area to bring it down from 114 mph.
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06-12-12 01:00 PM - Post#2236267
In response to musicalboats
KOOL shots Melanya, looks like you were having a TON of fun behind the lens!!!  
Looks like you found a great car to start out with. How about a pic with THE PROUD OWNER??? 
Keep the car driveable as much as you can - do a project, then drive and enjoy as you think about the next project. Change out the brake fluid and repack the wheel bearings for starters. CLEAN ALL CONNECTIONS in the starter circuit, if you still have 6v. No good reason why a lady can't turn a wrench - our hobby needs more HOT ROD GIRLS! 
Buy the DVD - "DUCE OF SPADES" for some inspiration - dang good movie!!!
Oh - where are you located???
Best Wishes, Tim
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06-12-12 01:06 PM - Post#2236269
In response to Panama Red
Cool, Red - Thanks!!! Just PM me with your results.
- Tim
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Panama Red
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06-12-12 01:12 PM - Post#2236272
In response to 6-bangertim
Buy the DVD - "DUCE OF SPADES" for some inspiration - dang good movie!!!
Amen to that! Great movie!! You may even get a tear in your eye. 
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socalpop
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06-12-12 04:34 PM - Post#2236362
In response to musicalboats
1960 261 6 in our 1958 Chevy Sedan Delivery
All stock internals
Click first link below to see pics of the build.
Edited by socalpop on 06-12-12 04:53 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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6-bangertim
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06-12-12 06:07 PM - Post#2236409
In response to socalpop
Pops, THAT just takes my breath away...
What did your 261 pull on the dyno? What mufflers are you running?
MUCHO THANKS for the pics!
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musicalboats
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06-12-12 09:30 PM - Post#2236469
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Wow!
First of all, that looks like an awesome engine from what little I know.
Will totally check out the movie, read the brief on it looks really good.
Yeah, someone changed up the air cleaner, was going to take a quick look into it this weekend, looks like they just took the old one out and then popped a new one on top...
Thanks for the suggestions Tim - I think brake fluid should be good now - had some trouble with the "No - roll" feature leaking, overrode it, but would like it get it working in the future. Still have the 6v, so will look into the starter circuit. Had some trouble with it all at the begining, was wondering if the solenoid was bad, bench tested okay twice, but you never know.
Located a few hours north of Seattle on the peninsula. Got the car in Auburn, drove it home that night.
And I will try and get a picture of me and it - I have named it Ella Mae. 
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06-13-12 07:10 AM - Post#2236565
In response to musicalboats
Wow - is it possible the I stayed quiet through this whole thread? ...that doesn't sound right!
Musicalboats, welcome to CT! Your car sounds fun, keep us posted on your progress.
~ Carl
BTW - musicalboats - neat name, care to share the meaning behind it?
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06-13-12 07:11 AM - Post#2236566
In response to socalpop
1960 261 6 in our 1958 Chevy Sedan Delivery
All stock internals
Click first link below to see pics of the build.
Dang Pops - you're making us look bad!! 
Beautiful motor!!!
` Carl
Carl E. Cederholm
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06-13-12 07:30 AM - Post#2236582
In response to cederholm
235 3/4 cam ..had 2 rochesters then 2 carters on fenton. then back to 1 rochester with biger jet .photo before i did total rewire 
| GET ER DONE .. AS I GET OLDER I LIKE FAST CARS I CAN STILL DRIVE. AND VERY SLOW WOMEN I CAN CATCH while still able..arnie garrison |
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socalpop
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06-13-12 01:40 PM - Post#2236732
In response to 6-bangertim
With the 261 being all stock on the inside the Dyno HP was about 130. I posted a link to the exhaust video so you can see the mufflers and hear them as well.
The 1st part of the video is before the exhaust system was installed (uncorked). The second part is with exhaust installed. The motor is solid lifter as most 261's were stock. This is before final valve adjustment so the lifters are a bit noisy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T4haP6uNNs
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brokenhead
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06-13-12 04:21 PM - Post#2236792
In response to Panama Red
vacumn isn't generally measured in PSI, it is measured in inches of mercury or sometimes water. Just one of those things that drive me nuts.
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Panama Red
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06-13-12 05:29 PM - Post#2236822
In response to brokenhead
vacumn isn't generally measured in PSI, it is measured in inches of mercury or sometimes water. Just one of those things that drive me nuts.
I stand corrected. Guess I wasn't paying attention to what I was typing.
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brokenhead
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06-13-12 07:07 PM - Post#2236882
In response to Panama Red
no problem, that is just one of my little quirk things, as sometimes the smallest detail makes an incredible difference. Much like an inch isn't very much until it happens to be the wrong cam that got switched with yours at the cam grinder. By the way, did the dual carbs really make much difference?
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Panama Red
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06-13-12 07:15 PM - Post#2236892
In response to brokenhead
no problem, that is just one of my little quirk things, as sometimes the smallest detail makes an incredible difference. Much like an inch isn't very much until it happens to be the wrong cam that got switched with yours at the cam grinder. By the way, did the dual carbs really make much difference?
I'm not running dual carbs on mine. I'm using a 390cfm Holley 4bbl.
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06-14-12 02:05 AM - Post#2236963
In response to socalpop
Thanks, Pops! Is the SD finished - or any progress pics? Sure sounds good, even with stock mufflers and a cross-over pipe, your shop did a great job!
- Tim
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brokenhead
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06-14-12 04:00 PM - Post#2237183
In response to arnieg141
arnieg is the guy I wanted to ask about the twin carbs working better or not...
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brokenhead
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06-14-12 04:01 PM - Post#2237184
In response to Panama Red
ok then, How does the 4 barrel run then? I'm looking into my options.
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Panama Red
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06-14-12 04:44 PM - Post#2237198
In response to brokenhead
The 4 barrel works perfect. Haven't had a single problem with it and, as I stated earlier, I get over 17.5 m/gal on the highway with the overdrive.
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socalpop
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06-14-12 06:12 PM - Post#2237229
In response to 6-bangertim
Sedan Delivery was finished (and sold) in August of last year. Click the 1st LINK below in this post for progress pics.
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musicalboats
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06-15-12 09:52 PM - Post#2237678
In response to cederholm
Sooo many neat things going on! Its neat to see all your guys engine set ups, figure out what I want for my own!
To Carl - that picture icon of your car looks real cool! (the musicalboats if from playing music - mainly tenor sax and bassoon, and that I went to a wooden boat school for a while, work in our local boatyard now...)
So, ordered the solenoid rebuild kit, new one wasn't that much money, might have to get it if I ruin this one taking it apart but sort of wanted to learn how it works. Any thoughts or comments?
And question two: (dumb basic question) How does the number of carbs affect things, or is it negligible and mainly more looks? I am thinking that they should both produce the same out come just different ways of doing it?
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06-16-12 07:17 PM - Post#2238010
In response to 6-bangertim
Answer to broken head: I put the clifford water heated intake and fentons on my 261. The flanges are different thickness so the the retainer thing between the two will not work. I had to fabricate a new one for each bolt. I have a clifford grind cam and a 500 edelbrock, works great.
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06-16-12 08:59 PM - Post#2238059
In response to oldcardude53
thanks, that is what I was thinking
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06-17-12 07:01 PM - Post#2238450
In response to musicalboats
Sooo many neat things going on! Its neat to see all your guys engine set ups, figure out what I want for my own!
To Carl - that picture icon of your car looks real cool! (the musicalboats if from playing music - mainly tenor sax and bassoon, and that I went to a wooden boat school for a while, work in our local boatyard now...)
Very cool!
Here are a couple pis for ya from NYC as I prep for paint. 
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