kamikaze_k
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06-05-12 11:01 PM - Post#2233909
I'm doing what I can to avoid an off-frame restoration at this point, especially since I'm still just learning. The weather stripping along the doors of my '51 Styleline were dry rotted, allowing water to seep into the carpet and padding. The floor pan has a lot of surface rust, and a few patches that could do with replacing, but isn't rusted away anywhere.
What would be your best suggestion for fixing the floor pan up without replacing it?
Sorry I don't have a better photo. What you see here is pretty much the story throughout the entire cab, the trunk is in much better shape. You can see (left side - white spot) it appears as though the previous owner attempted to patch an area with siding, though what he patched over I'm not positive, as the floor underneath isn't rusted through from what I can see.
Any input would be much appreciated!
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Butcher 318
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06-06-12 01:34 AM - Post#2233917
In response to kamikaze_k
If there are no holes the you got it made.
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 wagonman100
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06-06-12 04:45 AM - Post#2233941
In response to kamikaze_k
I'd take up the siding piece just to see what's under it from the top side. Then strat poking at the floor with a screwdriver. If you don't poke through anywhere or find any really soft spots, you're good to go. I'd then get some POR15 (get the metal prep and a can of black POR). Follw the directions and make sure the floor is bone dry after you rinse the acid away. I'd use a heat gun to dry it. Scuff the whole floor with a Scotchbrite pad and paint it with the POR. You can do top and bottom if you would like.
If you do find any soft spots or poke through, then patch the floors correctly by welding in new sections or patches. You'll be happy you did later on.
Jay
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints.
1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
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kamikaze_k
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06-06-12 07:05 AM - Post#2233978
In response to wagonman100
I'll pull up the siding and such today and see what I'm working with - if there's hole, I'll patch 'em, if not I'll find myself some POR15. Thank you so much! :]
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kamikaze_k
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06-07-12 10:24 PM - Post#2234618
In response to wagonman100
Anyone familiar with http://www.classicfabrication.com/ ?
It's looking like the damage is a bit more extensive than I thought and I'd rather just handle it properly now than do what the previous owner did (shoddy patch jobs and cheap anti-rust spray paint).
I did order the POR15, it's due to arrive Monday. My plan was to treat the floor pans top and bottom with that, then go about patching and welding. My thought here was that if the POR15 can prevent further rust, it made sense to me to have that protective barrier there before putting in any patch work. Am I correct in thinking this way? Or will putting down POR15 pre-welding/patching interfere with the welds, does anyone know?
The passenger side has no holes aside from the one's drilled through by the last guy, but the rear floor pan has a bit more give to it than I feel comfortable with. I figured I'd just get front and rear pans for both sides - would Classic Fabrications be a good route to take when purchasing these? I know you get what you pay for, and this isn't somewhere I want to skimp - anything cheaper seems cheaper for a reason, these prices seem reasonable, and I haven't found any negative feedback in regards to quality and fit, so just wanted some two cents here.
Thanks a million.
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wagonman100
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06-08-12 04:47 AM - Post#2234645
In response to kamikaze_k
I don't know anything about the company you mentioned. As for the POR, wait until things are done before applying it. If you are going to replace entire sections, you may not want to use the POR on the new stuff. It doesn't tend to stick as well to clean metal. If you do use it on the new metal, make sure you sand it with a very rough grit of sandpaper (80 grit or courser) to get the mechanical bond to the metal.
Jay
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints.
1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon |
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kamikaze_k
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06-08-12 07:24 AM - Post#2234696
In response to wagonman100
Okay, thanks! I wasn't planning on applying it to the new metal, though I imagine it couldn't hurt now you mention it, so long as I make sure to give it a surface to stick to. I had only been thinking about creating the barrier around places I was patching, but I suppose with welding, so long as I paint after, I shouldn't have to worry.
My can actually came today, surprisingly fast shipping!
Thanks again for your help, it's much appreciated. Since I can't seem to find anything negative about that company, I think I might just go with it, so I'll probably order all those this evening.
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