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04-26-12 07:04 PM - Post#2219512
Okay, David has a friend that was very impressed with his Nova this past weekend when David and I won a match race at the drag strip. I was driving and some loud mouth shot off his mouth and I asked if he was going to put his money where his mouth was? Long story short David and I split 200 dollar profit? I put up 100 and David put up 100 and we doubled our money.
Anyway, I whipped his butt by 3 car lengths at the 1/8th mile and 4-5 at the 1/4 mile mark. So the guy says I want to see this motor, David tilts the front clip forward and he freaks out. "Who built your motor?" David says, "The guy driving!" So this guy asks me, " Hey will you build me a motor?", I returned with by the hour!
He has a 700 hp goal in mind, what would be the best route? Big Block Chevy or LS series motor? Oh yeah, I told him I pay for nothing, I just build and tell you what parts I need? He already has a 454 block, and my mind start churning," Bore it 30 and stroke it to 4.25 and have a 496."
What do you guys suggest?
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04-26-12 07:09 PM - Post#2219513
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I forgot to say this is a local independent businessman that has more money than "God", so money really isn't a problem.
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04-26-12 07:14 PM - Post#2219517
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I have a 440 ci LS so you could say I have an opinion already. But if the guy already has a motor to use as a base, and has no EFI gear, the economics of building the BBC would be tough to beat.
I didn't say it would be better... 
So you typed the second comment while I entered the above. Throw the fuel drooling BBC on the scrap heap and do the LS. But if you're going to be the builder, it has to be what you know how to build. They are different...
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04-26-12 07:37 PM - Post#2219525
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I have a 440 ci LS so you could say I have an opinion already. But if the guy already has a motor to use as a base, and has no EFI gear, the economics of building the BBC would be tough to beat.
I didn't say it would be better...
So you typed the second comment while I entered the above. Throw the fuel drooling BBC on the scrap heap and do the LS. But if you're going to be the builder, it has to be what you know how to build. They are different...
Charlie
I have never built a LS motor, but have built a few BBCs in my day. I already sort of have a plan of action. Bore it 4.31 and stroke it 4.25 with 496 CI result, AFR 325cc heads, Crane Hydraulic Roller HR-246/400-2S-14 IG with 680 lift, ADV dur 316/324, @ 050 246/254, IVC 93.5, Range 32-6400 rpms, Crane roller rockers, bottom end is going to be all forged compenents. This is just a starting point.
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04-26-12 07:40 PM - Post#2219529
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mostly depends on his desires. for a road car he may want a lighter front end so the ls may be the choice there. he may want to go old school so the bbc would be the choice there. of course he could also go all alumnumum bbc $$$. better eye candy if you ask me. if money is plentiful the sky is the limit.
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04-26-12 07:42 PM - Post#2219531
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He also has a complete shop with all the tools I need for sure, I went by his house(his shop is out back 3 stalls and full compliment of tools)after we whipped his censored at the drag strip. Actually it sort of blew me away, he even has a lift in one stall. His race shop is about 60 X 120ft, big sonabish!
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04-26-12 07:46 PM - Post#2219532
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mostly depends on his desires. for a road car he may want a lighter front end so the ls may be the choice there. he may want to go old school so the bbc would be the choice there. of course he could also go all alumnumum bbc $$$. better eye candy if you ask me. if money is plentiful the sky is the limit.
Actually bobb the car is strickly strip car, no street. Its a 71 Camaro SS, not sure about tranny but its manual, with 4 link rearend and 4:11 rear gear. Weight with him in it is 3000#, I don't know the size of the slicks on back.
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04-26-12 07:50 PM - Post#2219536
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Oh the car has a SBC 427 in it at present. I am still wondering how I beat him at the drag strip, unless the car is poorly tuned. He should have had us at a big disadvantage. I don't know maybe he missed a shift or something.
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04-26-12 07:53 PM - Post#2219538
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hey grumpy where would I put this on your site?
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04-26-12 08:25 PM - Post#2219550
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If he wants 700 hp, he needs a big inch BBC, like a 565 or 582. And it needs the proper choice of cylinder heads and other components.
And if you have to ask how to build it, he needs a different engine builder.
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04-26-12 09:23 PM - Post#2219563
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Okay, David has a friend that was very impressed with his Nova this past weekend when David and I won a match race at the drag strip. I was driving and some loud mouth shot off his mouth and I asked if he was going to put his money where his mouth was? Long story short David and I split 200 dollar profit? I put up 100 and David put up 100 and we doubled our money.
Anyway, I whipped his butt by 3 car lengths at the 1/8th mile and 4-5 at the 1/4 mile mark. So the guy says I want to see this motor, David tilts the front clip forward and he freaks out. "Who built your motor?" David says, "The guy driving!" So this guy asks me, " Hey will you build me a motor?", I returned with by the hour!
He has a 700 hp goal in mind, what would be the best route? Big Block Chevy or LS series motor? Oh yeah, I told him I pay for nothing, I just build and tell you what parts I need? He already has a 454 block, and my mind start churning," Bore it 30 and stroke it to 4.25 and have a 496."
What do you guys suggest?
Id do the big block personally. I definitely am drawn to the potential of the LS, and know it could do it, but when it comes to a specific goal on somebody elses dime.....I'd want something more familiar.
Also unless he is totally against the idea of maintenance, Id be going solid roller for a strip only car.
The hydraulic roller can definitely do it. I dont know if you saw the 502 that Foxwell and Straub teamed up on for Daveys car, but with Scotts ported AFR's and a straub hydraulic roller the 502 made well over 700 horsepower and has Daveys 3700lb car well into the 9's.
But this was not a simple combo of off the shelf parts. It was good cylinder head work on an already very good head with a custom hydraulic roller.
Most of us using off the shelf parts would probably fall a good hundred horsepower short.
A solid roller will make life easier to meet that goal. You dont have to be as careful in balancing valvetrain weight and spring pressure to keep a hydraulic roller happy at high rpm. Again totally doable....but it takes a concentrated effort when you start pushing the envelop. We've been rpm'ing solid rollers for years, which points to the simplicity in making it work.
If it were me... Id use what he has. 496 incher. 11:1 comp, afr 315 full CNC heads, a cleaned up vic junior intake, 1000hp carb, 2 inch headers, and about a 260/268 at .050 solid roller with .700/.700 lift.
That'll just about make 700 even. It'll run low 10's in anything, and in a well prepped car with the right converter I could see it running a 9.8X o 9.9X.
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04-26-12 09:58 PM - Post#2219568
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If he wants 700 hp, he needs a big inch BBC, like a 565 or 582. And it needs the proper choice of cylinder heads and other components.
And if you have to ask how to build it, he needs a different engine builder.
I have built a few big blocks, but its been over 10 yrs since the last one. It was a 475-500 hp build, I just haven't built one with that goal in mind. Oh yeah the ones I did build are still out there on the streets, not everday, but still out there.
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04-26-12 10:04 PM - Post#2219570
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Okay, David has a friend that was very impressed with his Nova this past weekend when David and I won a match race at the drag strip. I was driving and some loud mouth shot off his mouth and I asked if he was going to put his money where his mouth was? Long story short David and I split 200 dollar profit? I put up 100 and David put up 100 and we doubled our money.
Anyway, I whipped his butt by 3 car lengths at the 1/8th mile and 4-5 at the 1/4 mile mark. So the guy says I want to see this motor, David tilts the front clip forward and he freaks out. "Who built your motor?" David says, "The guy driving!" So this guy asks me, " Hey will you build me a motor?", I returned with by the hour!
He has a 700 hp goal in mind, what would be the best route? Big Block Chevy or LS series motor? Oh yeah, I told him I pay for nothing, I just build and tell you what parts I need? He already has a 454 block, and my mind start churning," Bore it 30 and stroke it to 4.25 and have a 496."
What do you guys suggest?
Id do the big block personally. I definitely am drawn to the potential of the LS, and know it could do it, but when it comes to a specific goal on somebody elses dime.....I'd want something more familiar.
Also unless he is totally against the idea of maintenance, Id be going solid roller for a strip only car.
The hydraulic roller can definitely do it. I dont know if you saw the 502 that Foxwell and Straub teamed up on for Daveys car, but with Scotts ported AFR's and a straub hydraulic roller the 502 made well over 700 horsepower and has Daveys 3700lb car well into the 9's.
But this was not a simple combo of off the shelf parts. It was good cylinder head work on an already very good head with a custom hydraulic roller.
Most of us using off the shelf parts would probably fall a good hundred horsepower short.
A solid roller will make life easier to meet that goal. You dont have to be as careful in balancing valvetrain weight and spring pressure to keep a hydraulic roller happy at high rpm. Again totally doable....but it takes a concentrated effort when you start pushing the envelop. We've been rpm'ing solid rollers for years, which points to the simplicity in making it work.
If it were me... Id use what he has. 496 incher. 11:1 comp, afr 315 full CNC heads, a cleaned up vic junior intake, 1000hp carb, 2 inch headers, and about a 260/268 at .050 solid roller with .700/.700 lift.
That'll just about make 700 even. It'll run low 10's in anything, and in a well prepped car with the right converter I could see it running a 9.8X o 9.9X.
I have been looking at AFR 325, but if you think the 315 CNC would flow better will look at them also. I haven't had the greastest luck in the past with solids Greg is why I was looking at Hydraulic rollers, like I said to Rick its been a decade since my last big block and all I remember is probably covered in cobb webbs by now. The crane roller I was looking at bothers me due to RPMs, I am thinking I am going to need higher range to find 700 hp.
Here is a solid roller I have been looking at also: http://www.cranecams.com/product/cart.php?m=produc...
Only thing is this one has a lower Duration at 050
246/256
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04-26-12 10:51 PM - Post#2219579
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I agree Greg, I was thinking 11:1 min compression, I was going to be looking tomorrow for rotating assemblies. Ohio crank has billet cranks that look awful tempting, going with a 4.375 stroke is same price and that would up the size to 510 ci. Heads are going to be between AFR and World Merlin III I am thinking. I also agree on the intake, it needs to be a Victor Jr cleaned up and good porting. You think 1000 would be enough, I was thinking 1100 to carry 700 lift? I know the block is gonna need decking, line honed, cam tunnel cleaned up, magnafluxing, sonic testing the bores, shot peened, etc etc.....
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04-27-12 02:15 AM - Post#2219588
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..........And if you have to ask how to build it, he needs a different engine builder.
Don't really agree with that, Rick. Everyone, even the best engine builder in the country, had zero experience once.
I'd much prefer to get someone who takes care and time and isn't above asking for advice and opinions to build me something, than someone who 'knows everything'. Once someone believes there isn't anything left for them to learn, stay well clear of them I say.
All IMHO, of course but then, I've been wrong before.
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04-27-12 06:44 AM - Post#2219626
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if you want 700+ HP here it is. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-19201334/
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04-27-12 06:53 AM - Post#2219629
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700+ strip car. BBC all the way. Rectangle ports 345cc heads, big camshaft, big stall, good tranny. 700hp would be a walk in the park. With the right setup and right compression ratio, you're getting closer to the 800hp range.
If it's a strictly strip car, I'd look @ 14:1 CR and solid roller setup.
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04-27-12 11:02 AM - Post#2219693
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"Everyone, even the best engine builder in the country, had zero experience once."
You get what you pay for. You shouldn't have to pay a zero experience engine builder.
There are so many parts available for these things, it takes parts that work together, and many need modification. Experience is worth something.
I'm not say a that one shouldn't try to become an engine builder. It's just that you either need to gain experience by doing your own stuff or by working in a shop and learning from a pro.
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04-27-12 07:31 PM - Post#2219817
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So Rick, what your saying is that building engines since I was 12 years old doesn't mean anything. I learned from a pro, My Dad. Yes, I still have questions, but even the best minds of today will tell you when you stop asking questions there is something majorly wrong. And Yes, I am more a small block builder, but I do have experience with big blocks just not as much as small blocks.
The guy that wants the motor built knows I am not a "Pro" at big blocks, actually He and I are both going to build the motor. I have made a list of books that is in several of Grumpy's posts and we will both learn together. Jim just wants to know how a lil ole small block 385 beat his 427 big block crate motor. Oh BTW the comment about building by the hour was joke anyway. Jim and I haven't agreed on my compensation for the build yet.
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04-27-12 08:38 PM - Post#2219835
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well since he wants to know how the sbc beat him, maybe you could take a shot at tuning his bbc. just to see if its all it can be. he will learn stuff too. it could be an interesting science project.
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04-27-12 09:31 PM - Post#2219845
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I'm with motorman, go for the GM crate engine. GM has built millions of engines ... all with warranties. You just can't beat that.
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04-27-12 09:39 PM - Post#2219846
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well since he wants to know how the sbc beat him, maybe you could take a shot at tuning his bbc. just to see if its all it can be. he will learn stuff too. it could be an interesting science project.
I agree with that bobb, I will talk to him tomorrow after work and take a look at his motor. I know one thing it is under carbed to start out by at least 100 cfm. At 6500 a 427 should need at least a 850cfm carb and he is running a 725cfm carb.
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04-28-12 12:28 AM - Post#2219858
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then you also know that one thing leads to another. i would start with whatever suppossed specs that he has and go from there. square one, estimate or certify cam timing. and so on. who knows, he may be a half second off the mark just by tweekin it. have fun with it.
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04-28-12 11:30 AM - Post#2219970
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Yeah, I talked to him today and took a look at it. I know his initial timing is off, mech adv is off too. He is only getting total 28 degrees of advance. I asked him to get a list of all the components of the motor in the car as of now. I think his valves are preloaded too much cuz he's only making about 6in of vac at idle. I will know more when I get a list of heads, cam, valve spring pressures. I do see he is running good oil pressure at 39-42 at idle and increases with rpms, it runs cool at about 185-90 on his temp gauge. I will know more later.
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04-28-12 12:15 PM - Post#2219983
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I honestly think from what I saw today that his 427 can be tuned and end up with a kickin motor. I am not sure, but I think this motor is getting tired too, don't know how old the motor is, I will ask that question too. Might just need a freshening and tune it some and maybe a cam and carb change and have a kick butt combo. Just gonna have to take a long look at it and its components.
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04-28-12 01:54 PM - Post#2220002
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Well said Rick . Some people assemble parts others build engines with knowledge and ability making extreme power for many hours. If you can't say how long it will last or the horse power and torque you'll have then work your way up under some one with experience with modern engines to gain the practical experience you need. Starting at the top then failing at your goal will hurt your chances as a builder. There are stock LS engines running Carbs and Nitous blowing away some serious high cubed engines be open minded how to reach the intended end product.
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04-28-12 02:25 PM - Post#2220008
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.... I know one thing it is under carbed to start out by at least 100 cfm. At 6500 a 427 should need at least a 850cfm carb and he is running a 725cfm carb.
this a very common misconception
4 barrel carbs are flow rated at 1.5" of mercury vacuum (roughly equal to 28" of water)
if you increase the vacuum the carb flows more air, a 750cfm car can easily flow 850cfm or even 900cfm on a significantly larger engine with a stronger vacuum, now IM not saying a larger carb might not flow more fuel/air and make more power but the rated flow is not locked in stone, and it works the other way also, if you install two 600cfm carbs on a 427 you cut the vacuum in the plenum roughly in half so neither carb flows near 600cfm, you might get 470cfm each
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04-28-12 05:51 PM - Post#2220054
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.... I know one thing it is under carbed to start out by at least 100 cfm. At 6500 a 427 should need at least a 850cfm carb and he is running a 725cfm carb.
this a very common misconception
4 barrel carbs are flow rated at 1.5" of mercury vacuum (roughly equal to 28" of water)
if you increase the vacuum the carb flows more air, a 750cfm car can easily flow 850cfm or even 900cfm on a significantly larger engine with a stronger vacuum, now IM not saying a larger carb might not flow more fuel/air and make more power but the rated flow is not locked in stone, and it works the other way also, if you install two 600cfm carbs on a 427 you cut the vacuum in the plenum roughly in half so neither carb flows near 600cfm, you might get 470cfm each
http://users.erols.com/srweiss/calcdchg.htm
Okay, I have some specs on the current BBC in his car:
Bore: 4.31
Stroke: 4.00 Scat forged
CI: 467
Pistons are forged with dome 25cc(he doesn't know what brand or dome size)
Old Edelbrock Torker intake
Demon 725 carb
Heads are OEM casting 3873858
109 cc, 219/188 valves
Crane Hyd Roller - HR-236/359-2S-14 IG
Duration 050 236/244
Lift 610/632
LSA 112
IVC 82
The car is 73 Camaro, 3000lb with driver, M21 manual tranny, 4 link with 4.11 rear gear. Tire is
15 street slick 30in diameter(tire is a guess on my part from what I saw at his shop).
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04-28-12 05:58 PM - Post#2220060
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This is what I see!
1.Heads are old technology
2.Cubes are a little small but still good size
3.Intake old technology again
4.Carb possibly not large enough
5.Cam is not for strickly strip car, good cam for street, but he needs a solid roller with narrower LSA, more duration, more lift.
Okay guys critique me on this?
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04-28-12 07:43 PM - Post#2220091
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this is my thoughts:
Cam
http://www.lunatipower.com/Product.aspx?id=2162&am...
Heads(flow about 340 full lift of the cam above)
http://www.jegs.com/i/Dart/301/19100112/1 0002/-1?p...
Forged Pistons
http://www.jegs.com/i/SRP/867/139832/1000 2/-1?pare...
Carb (cfm to spin up to 7000)
http://www.jegs.com/i/Holley/510/0-80509- 1/10002/-...
Intake
http://www.jegs.com/i/Edelbrock/350/2896/ 10002/-1?...
this is just preliminary parts list. I did the figures, this should yeild 11.55 static, 9.09 dynamic in compression ratios. remember this is not a street car, strickly strip only. He will be running racing fuel only.
==== BOB ====
If I can't smoke the tires I want more!
1976 Chevy Nova
2007 Chevy 1500 1/2 ton
2005 Yamaha Vstar 1100 midnight custom |
Edited by busterrm on 04-28-12 07:57 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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