Capr87Elco70
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02-23-12 10:15 AM - Post#2194200
I've been shopping around for a long block for my '87 Caprice. Many I see for sale are listed as fuel injected
My question is, does it matter if I purchase one listed as a fuel injected motor if I'm putting on my carbureted intake or are there more differences, like something won't bolt up.
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models916
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02-23-12 11:07 AM - Post#2194223
In response to Capr87Elco70
Some of the injected later blocks don't have a boss for the mechanical fuel pump, some have the boss but is not machined for the internal rod, or some have everything except the cam is missing the fuel pump lobe. Could just run an electric and regulator to the carb.
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C10 Sleeper
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02-23-12 12:26 PM - Post#2194263
In response to models916
Also another thing to think about is different variations of fuel infection used different styles of heads so you will have to get the appropriate intake manifold for what you are going to use. Example : if you buy a vortec long block and want to use a Carb you will need to use a carbureted intake that is compatible with vortec heads.
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Capr87Elco70
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02-23-12 12:32 PM - Post#2194264
In response to C10 Sleeper
So many varations, glad I asked, thanks. I'd love to upgrade from the 305 but I want to make this as easy as possible to do myself so I'll probably just put another in. Ideally it'd be a fuel injected 350 but who knows what I'd be getting into. I can fix everything else on the car but new to engines.
My next question is, can I remove the engine with the exhaust manifolds unbolted from the block still attached to the exhaust? Amazingly all the bolts came out without any problems. I'm guessing I'll have to disconnect them anyway from the exhaust to get them aligned with the new block..
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C10 Sleeper
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02-23-12 01:32 PM - Post#2194293
In response to Capr87Elco70
Upgrading to a 350 is not going to be any different than putting in another 305. If you have any questions there are plenty of knowledgable people here that would be happy to talk you through it. As for the exhaust manifolds being in the way I'm not sure about your vehicle. I have done it a couple of times with a truck. It usually just makes things harder to get too and definitely adds to it. My opinion is pull them off if you don't have little hands.
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models916
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02-24-12 07:38 AM - Post#2194593
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This should be a drop in.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-10067353/
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02-26-12 07:58 AM - Post#2195375
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Not really. He has a 1987 car, which means it's a 1-piece main seal block. The link is to an earlier 2-piece main seal block. Flexplates are totally different on these engines. In addition to the crankshaft flange bolt circle being smaller, the flexplate has a counterweight on it.
I'd stop by a Chevy dealer to get the GM P/N for the correct long block. Then shop that price at places like Scoggin-Dickey or other local dealers.
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models916
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02-27-12 08:57 AM - Post#2195821
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Ok, spend more money for the correct engine rather than $50 for the correct flywheel.
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02-27-12 08:40 PM - Post#2196099
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And a superior seal design.
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C10 Sleeper
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02-27-12 10:04 PM - Post#2196132
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I'm not sure about it for sure but didn't the one piece rear seal motors come with provisions for a factory hydraulic roller cam? In my opinion of I were to upgrade from a 305 to a 350 and I didn't have to jump through hoops at an emissions testing station and was going to buy a crate long block I would probably go with a vortec 350. Upgrade the cam throw on a nice carbureted intake and have a nice street friendly car that could stay out front of most people on the road. You would have a 1 piece seal, hydraulic roller cam, choices for parts that are readily available and relatively cheap, existing motor mounts and exhaust will bolt right up.
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models916
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02-28-12 06:27 AM - Post#2196198
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I think CA makes you pass smog on either the VIN date or the engine date, whichever is newer. Might have trouble with a carb on a Vortec engine. Better check that out before you spend. In IL they only check cars with OBDII, can kind of do whatever you want on the older stuff.
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C10 Sleeper
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02-28-12 08:07 AM - Post#2196230
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CA is a pita anything that is model year 1975 or older doesn't have to be inspected. Engine swaps can legally be done if you follow the long list of rules and have the BAR inspect it and approve it.
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models916
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02-29-12 06:55 AM - Post#2196600
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His is 1987, they're going to look and check.
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D.Mac
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02-29-12 09:27 AM - Post#2196646
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I'm not sure about it for sure but didn't the one piece rear seal motors come with provisions for a factory hydraulic roller cam?
Not necessarily. The passenger car blocks were machined for roller cams. Trucks did not come with roller cams until '96. I personally have yet to see a '87-'95 truck block that was machined for the roller set-up.
The blocks are the same, and have the bosses for roller set-up, but are not machined for it.
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02-29-12 09:32 AM - Post#2196648
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That sounds right from what I have seen now that you mentioned it.
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