kwhizz
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08-17-11 02:35 PM - Post#2127000
I've already started with the conversion and will be posting updates directly here in the future.....but....here's a link explaining what has happened up to this point.....
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads .php?ubb...
Ken
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08-17-11 03:17 PM - Post#2127016
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I almost made the same mistake once on a 57 Chevy Handyman wagon and bought it sight unseen. It had a new 383 motor, 350 trans new paint for $12,000. I thought how much could I lose. Fortunately I drove from Louisville , KY to Hometown, WVa. before buying it. If the car was outside I'd of kept on going. It had new paint all right all over dents and rust. Believe me when I tell you this car was the biggest POS I've ever seen. Not only will i never buy a car sight unseen but a will never drive a long distance to see a POS either.
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hussler
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08-17-11 03:18 PM - Post#2127017
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Wow Ken!!! You do nice work. I just hope I can get my 66 Impala SS done soon!!
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08-17-11 04:58 PM - Post#2127073
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What is a POS?
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08-17-11 05:55 PM - Post#2127091
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POS=Piece of S
Ken,
I am in the middle of the same thing. Buying a 71 Eldorado convertible. california car. I am flying to KC MO to look at it myself. $500 so I dont need to trust anyone else.
We also know how big of a project I am into with my 65. I only did the powertrain first and now the body.
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08-17-11 07:59 PM - Post#2127122
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Did you sell the Biscayne yet?
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kwhizz
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08-18-11 01:13 AM - Post#2127182
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Did you sell the Biscayne yet?
Nope!!......I had it priced way above where the market is........And.....Reality is starting to set in.....
Ken
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HAL_396
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08-18-11 03:51 PM - Post#2127432
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Its always easier to go down than it is to go up. I hope you get a good price for her.
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kwhizz
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08-18-11 06:57 PM - Post#2127505
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I needed to raise the Engine about 5/8" to get the Pan off the Crossmember.....Rather than mess around with Frame mounts and Motor mounts, I decided to make new motor mount adaptor plates......because the mounts are on an angle and I wanted to raise the engine, I had to figure out how much to move the rubber mount holes and how much thicker to make the plate to get everything to fall into place.....here are some pic's
Store bought plate in black......you can see how the 3 rubber mount holes are moved down and the plate is also thicker

New plate mounted to the engine......

Rubber mount installed......

Engine down on the mounts and the holes line up perfectly....Just slid the bolts in....I love it when a plan comes together....


Pan not sits nicely above the crossmember.....

And sits perfectrly with the bottom of the crossmember

Also got my raised alternator mounting kit....


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kwhizz
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08-21-11 06:00 PM - Post#2128623
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Got entergetic this morning and created a major mess in the garage.....took the front end apart....Grille, bumper, lights, etc.......also took off the rear bumper assy.....the car is going for Media blasting on Tuesday....when it gets finished there (gonna be interesting to see what's under the 1/8" of paint) I'll bring it back home and gut the Interior and then off to the Puleras where they will work their magic on the Body.......The Bumpers will also go out for re-chroming


LOL.............


But....as Shoddy the body and paint on the car is....the "Important" stuff is in pretty good shape....Trunk floor is perfect......and there is just minor surface rust behind the rear bumper.....should clean up pretty easy......could be a lot worse



Time to start ordering parts ............
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kwhizz
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08-23-11 07:10 PM - Post#2129462
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The car is going for Media blasting tomorrow.....So....I wanted to break the car down a little more......Found the trunk full of Nu Yawk mouse crap....

tail light assy's are pitted with lousy chrome....I'll try and find some NOS ones......if not I'll just get these rechromed$$$$$$

The paint is probably 1/16" thick in spots....

Anyone need any Nu Yawk Day 2 Speakers....LOL

Except for the speaker holes and the dents on the outside of the doors......the doors are rust free.....a welcome surprise..


Took the rear seat out and the there was just light surface rust on the seat pan.....


Ready for the trailer.....

Look what I found.........Hadn't been started for two years.....110 octane and a Diehard and she started right up....amazing...

we will see what's under all that paint in a couple of days
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kwhizz
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08-23-11 07:15 PM - Post#2129464
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Getting Closer..................
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kwhizz
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08-26-11 04:59 PM - Post#2130565
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Picked the car up this afternoon......I'll post some better pic's tomorrow...but...In a nutshell........It's better than I thought......Remember, I have new fenders so I didn't have the old ones blasted, but....the Doors,Hood, Trunk Lid, Rockers are all in great shape........the wheel openings in both quarters had rust and had been patched..........Gonna have to get some patch panels and repair them correctly.......Not as bad as I expected, but......I'm glad we decided to blast the body to really see what was under that "Survivor" Nu Yawk Paint.....LOL
Drivers Side



Passenger side....


Rear......


More Tomorrow..........
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08-26-11 06:34 PM - Post#2130593
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congrats, now cover up that bare metal.
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kwhizz
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08-27-11 04:28 PM - Post#2130866
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Got the car out of the trailer today to clean it up and strip the inside so when I get the call to take it to Pulera's for Body/Paint.....it will be ready......Again....there is good and bad after stripping.....but....I think there is more good than bad.....
Here are the bad pic's.....


And some good pic's......the doors are rust free except for a minor area that will require a little a little patch...

Doors and rockers are in great shape.....


Drivers side is perfecto.......


Floors......Minor surface rust only....

Found this "Classic" Nu Yawk spare tire cover.........

And I decided to store it in the Garbage can.....A fitting end..

And.....as I was working on the car today I could almost hear it telling me "Thank You" for getting me out of Nu Yawk....LOL
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08-27-11 08:16 PM - Post#2130940
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Thanks for all those great pictures, Ken!
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kwhizz
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08-29-11 07:29 PM - Post#2131671
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Did some more dis assembly today.....took the rest of the front sheetmetal off and things ended up being better than expected.....all the Body mounts are in great shape.....the only issue is the lower fender mount on the passenger side will need to be replaced.......the mounting surface was rusted away and the body shop (LOL) that repaired the fenders just tack welded the lower portion of the fender to the body......Nu Yawk's finest.......the original cowl paint behind the fender cleaned up very nicely.......Here's some pic's from today...










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kwhizz
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08-29-11 07:40 PM - Post#2131678
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More........

With the heater box out, I was able to get a shot inside the cowl area.......Looking pretty good in there.....

Getting Closer........
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08-29-11 09:06 PM - Post#2131715
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At least you'll be able to get to the front body mounts!
I bought a set of mounts from SoffSeal. Cheap imported stuff - they ended up looking like those on your car after just three years. Ended up with PU units from Energy. Problem fixed.
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08-30-11 09:56 AM - Post#2131871
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it is difficult to be happy seeing how rust free your project is when I see how bad mine was. 
congrats and I hope you keep finding rust free parts of the car.
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kwhizz
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08-30-11 05:46 PM - Post#2132029
In response to leon phelps
Almost Done......LOL.....Got the Goodie box from John at Speartech today.......Plug and play....Well almost....



Stopped at the Body Shop today (Puleras in Kenosha, Wi)and talked to Randy about getting the car in......Randy told me to bring all the bolt on parts in, Hood, Fenders,Doors,Deck Lid, etc.......So.....The part of doing a project that I hate more than anything........Taking the window mechanisms out of the car........What a Pain in the A$$!!!.........Only have the patience to do one a day........


Parts from inside one door.....

Gonna order the quarter patch panels and in a week or two the body should be at Puleras.........
Getting Closer......
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hussler
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09-02-11 02:41 PM - Post#2133018
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How low do you plan to lower it?
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kwhizz
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09-02-11 05:17 PM - Post#2133045
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How low do you plan to lower it?
I will be happy to get it to sit just about as it is in the above picture.....
Ken
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kwhizz
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09-03-11 08:13 PM - Post#2133436
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Dropped off the loose sheetmetal at Puleras last week....It looks like it will be a couple of weeks before they will be ready for the body as they are slammed with repair jobs....so I continued with the dis-assembly.....took all the windshield trim off and everything is in great shape in the windshield area...so..as long as I have to wait a couple of weeks, I'm gonna put the engine back in and get the exhaust system made and I'm going to hook up the 4L65E trans to the stock column shift linkage.......so, I can make up a shift arm for the trans....Compared to the 37 Ford build....this is simple.....things just go together...(so far).....here are some pic's from today....
Anyone want a "Genuine" Nu Yawk Dice/Scotch Tape rear view Mirror.......Special Long Island Option.....

Frame assy in great shape......




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kwhizz
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09-05-11 07:07 AM - Post#2133873
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It's a Beautiful day here today........I should be waxing my newly purchased "Mint" Nu Yawk original paint survivor car and be taking it out for a drive.....LOL..........




Like they say in Jamaica..........Soon Come....

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kwhizz
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09-07-11 06:41 PM - Post#2134967
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I also took the fenders (old and new) down to the shop today...... the NOS fender and the new old fender needed some trim holes put in.......Trying to figure out how to position them correctly from the Factory Assembly manual is quite the project.......I'm sure it makes sense to someone....LOL....Heres the page from the manual with the Dim's.....

So............How to do this and get all the seperate letters to be in the right place.......I took the old fender and measured where the first and last holes were relative to the crease and door side opening......

And.....Since I was going to trash the fenders anyway.....I got the Plasma Cutter out.....and got down to bare metal.......The layers of paint were just like reading tree rings

Cut the pattern out of the old fender.....

Measured and drilled one of the holes in the new fender.....It just so happened that the holes size allowed me to screw in a 8-32 screw.....tighten up the one screw.....positioned the other hole, drilled it thru and added the second screw......now I had a drill jig for drilling the other holes in position and to the correct size




Look how thick the "ORIGINAL Survivor" paint is on the old fender.....LOL

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kwhizz
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09-07-11 06:46 PM - Post#2134971
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The other fender is a used Rust free Caprice fender.....so.....We had to weld up the Caprice emblem holes and drill the Impala holes....

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kwhizz
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09-08-11 05:30 PM - Post#2135328
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I ordered a new set of Body mounts and want to change them before the car go's to Pulera's......Started loosening the old bolts but needed to soak them in some penetrating oil....so in the mean time I pulled the fuel tank down.....bottom of the trunk floor looked pretty good....


Then I continued with the paint stripper around the trunk are......Boring!!


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09-08-11 08:54 PM - Post#2135398
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Wow, Ken, the area above the tank looks great! Love the way the hot tailpipes are run next to the gas tank, too.
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kwhizz
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09-09-11 05:21 PM - Post#2135711
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Changing the Body mounts.........Its like should I let the sleeping Dog lie......or should I kick it......LOL....I decided to Kick it and I'm glad I did........I started by removing the front ones first and they were rusted away so bad they just snapped off......


Did one side at a time with some wood and a jack....

Glad I changed them out.........What a "Pile"


Ken
Edited by kwhizz on 09-09-11 05:29 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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