 DZAUTO
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08-17-11 08:36 AM - Post#2126857
In response to DZAUTO
Oh ya, one important thing I left out. If you retain your existing 6cyl engine in the same position, and change to an open driveline using a 55-62 6cyl bell housing, you can also use the same clutch linkage and throwout bearing fork that is with your existing bell housing!
Even though I have a V8 in my 51, it still has the original 51 clutch linkage and throwout bearing fork! I did have to lengthen the linkage with some links of chain, but it works perfect.
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johnnymv1
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08-17-11 09:03 AM - Post#2126875
In response to DZAUTO
Thanks for the helpful info i was not aware of that information so i guess it will stay original untill i decide to step it up and change the eng. and trans setup. This is my first car this old and all this stuff is new to me. Im learning as im going. By the way i have two leaks coming from the trans area is a 3 speed as stated befor and its leaking from the area wher the tube screws into the trans and where the swivel joint bolts to it as well, i cant seem to find any seals for it. Im sorry if im breaking any rules not sure if i can do this.
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DZAUTO
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08-17-11 03:23 PM - Post#2127020
In response to johnnymv1
Nope, you're doing just fine! 
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Bill K.b
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08-17-11 09:39 PM - Post#2127156
In response to DZAUTO
Long as someone's asking, is an orignal clutch and fork worth anything as far as hanging onto?
Those who can, do. Those who can't, criticize it on the internet.
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 1nice52
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08-18-11 11:55 AM - Post#2127343
In response to johnnymv1
Johnny,
This is what you are looking for:
http://www.chevsofthe40s.com/detail/6265/Chevrolet ...
RON
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18inchapes
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08-18-11 01:01 PM - Post#2127368
In response to 1nice52
rear specs...
Ford Outside
Width Year Model
56.50 1969-1977 Maverick 8"
57.00 1974-1978 Mustang II 8"
57.25 1957-1959 Ford, Ranchero, Station Wagon
57.25 1965-1966 Mustang
58.00 1966-1977 Bronco
58.00 1964-1965 Falcon
58.00 1977-1981 Granada/Versailles
58.50 1977-1981 Versailles
59.25 1967-1970 Mustang, Fairlane, Comet, Cougar
60.00 1967 Cougar
60.00 1958-1960 Edsel
61.00 1964-1971 Ford Full Size
61.00 1949-1951 Mercury
61.25 1957-1972 Ford F-100 Pickup
61.25 1960-1964 Ford Full Size
61.25 1971-1973 Mustang
61.25 1967-1973 Torino, Ranchero, Fairlane
63.00 1970-1979 Ranchero & Torino
63.00 1972-1979 Ford Full Size & Intermediate
63.50 1967 Fairlane (Coil Springs)
65.25 1973-1986 Ford F-150 Pickup
65.25 1978-1986 Bronco
65.25 1973-1986 Ford Van 3/4 Ton
68.00 1972 Ford Van 3/4 Ton
69.25 1977-1986 Ford E-150 Van
Chevy Outside
Width Year Model
54.25 1983-2004 Chevy S10 2WD, GMC S15 2WD
57.75 1962-1964 Chevy II/Nova
57.75 1965-1967 Chevy II/Nova
58.00 1978-1988 Chevy Malibu, Monte Carlo
59.50 1968-1982 Corvette
60.00 1955-1964 Chevy Car
60.00 1967-1969 Camaro
60.25 1968-1979 Chevy II/Nova
60.50 1984-1995 Corvette
60.50 1964-1967 Chevelle
62.00 1955-1959 Chevy Pickup
62.50 1968-1972 Chevelle
62.50 1970-1981 Camaro/Firebird
Mopar Outside
Width Year Model
55.60 1960-1976 7 1/4 A-body
55.60 1973-1976 8 1/4 A-body
55.60 1966-1972 8 3/4 A-body
55.60 All 8 3/4 A-body
56.00 1932-1934 All Mopars
57.40 1963-1972 7 1/4 A-body
58.54 All 8 1/4 F-body
58.54 All 8 1/4 M-body
58.54 All 8 1/4 J-body
59.00 1935-1936 All Mopars
59.14 1966-1970 9 3/4 B-body
59.20 1962-1970 8 3/4 B-body
60.00 1937-1948 All Mopars
60.70 All 8 3/4 E-body
60.70 All 9 3/4 E-body
62.00 All 8 1/4 B-body
62.00 1971-1974 8 3/4 B-body
62.00 All 9 1/4 B-body
63.40 All 8 1/4 C-body
63.40 1971-1974 8 3/4 B-body S.W.
63.40 All 9 1/4 C-body
1952 Chevy hardtop
1932 Plymouth PB 3 window coupe
1940 Willys sedan
1964 Chevy II SS
1966 Pontiac GTO hardtop
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Bob_Hayden
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 08-18-11 09:04 PM - Post#2127558
In response to 18inchapes
Jeff, FYI The 70-81 Camaro/Firebird is 61.50 and not 62.50.
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johnnymv1
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08-19-11 11:56 AM - Post#2127737
In response to 1nice52
Thanks your a life saver, Whats involved in this repair?
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1nice52
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08-22-11 08:08 AM - Post#2128812
In response to johnnymv1
johnnymv1,
Please start a new thread on this repair, this sticky thread is about rear-end swaps.
Thanks
RON
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cortcomp
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08-23-11 01:19 PM - Post#2129256
In response to 1nice52
I didn't see any response to my question a few pages back:
If you setup your rear with custom or correct backspacing wheels (using trial and error or a percy's wheel gauge or what not) does it really matter if you get a 58" or a 62.5" rear, as you can "move the wheels around" inside the wheel wells with different offsets and backspacing.
I would think that would allow you to get a very large tire/rim combination in there, regardless of the rear width, as you could move the rim to center the wheel and get the most meaty tire for traction.
I know most guys are just buying or using whatever rims are around, but i think actual measuring and trial and error in this situation could be the difference between running narrow tires that don't quite hook and something wider and bigger that will hook and corner better.
Just my 2cents.
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Bill K.b
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08-23-11 01:35 PM - Post#2129260
In response to cortcomp
As long as it's wide enough the backing plates don't hit the frame, which I believe is why 58" is too narrow.
Those who can, do. Those who can't, criticize it on the internet.
1991 G20 van 5.7L - swap meet spl.
1993 3500 dually 5.7L NV4500 - tow truck
1991 Suburban 5.7
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cortcomp
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08-23-11 02:38 PM - Post#2129296
In response to Bill K.b
Gotcha, i have a rear that's around 60-62 if i recall.
I thought 58 was touted as the magic number? Maybe it was 58.5?
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Atribune
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09-18-11 05:58 AM - Post#2138290
In response to JSanford1974
Which Explorer's could be used, only the 8 cylinder or would the 6 cyl. Explorer rear ends work as well?
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Handy 54
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10-17-11 03:39 PM - Post#2148280
In response to JSanford1974
 hello this is my first post and was wondering how your project went or is going, I to am putting an 8.8 rear into my 54 wagon already have the 4.8 and 4L60 mounted. any info would be great thanks.
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JSanford1974
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10-21-11 09:24 AM - Post#2149635
In response to Atribune
Which Explorer's could be used, only the 8 cylinder or would the 6 cyl. Explorer rear ends work as well?
I haven't found that there is a difference other than gear ratio.
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JSanford1974
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10-21-11 09:26 AM - Post#2149636
In response to Handy 54
hello this is my first post and was wondering how your project went or is going, I to am putting an 8.8 rear into my 54 wagon already have the 4.8 and 4L60 mounted. any info would be great thanks.
I'm stalled with my build. The wife wants to move, so I haven't tore into anything yet. You got any pics of your 4.8 installed? What headers do you plan on using?
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Handy 54
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10-29-11 01:44 PM - Post#2152386
In response to JSanford1974
I'm not sure how to do the pictures I am trying to learn the photo bucket thing. For exhaust I'm going to try ls3 vette manifolds if I have to get headers probably sanderson I have seen it on some other builds. I have so many questions though will my offset 8.8 be ok?
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 bobg1951chevy
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10-29-11 02:15 PM - Post#2152396
In response to cortcomp
60"
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JSanford1974
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10-30-11 06:51 PM - Post#2152831
In response to Handy 54
I'm not sure how to do the pictures I am trying to learn the photo bucket thing. For exhaust I'm going to try ls3 vette manifolds if I have to get headers probably sanderson I have seen it on some other builds. I have so many questions though will my offset 8.8 be ok?
I asked the same question in this post..
http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?ti...
He installed an Explorer 8.8 in his 1953 Chevy.
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bobbyg
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01-04-12 09:14 AM - Post#2175580
In response to DZAUTO
 I have a 261 engine in my 51 Chevy style line
2dr.if I were to put a rear end from a 54 powerglide
in it,would the drive line buckle up without any
problems,and what year did Chevy stop the inclosed
drive line,also is there any way to put a open drive
line on to this motor.It is a standard 3 on a tree.
Thanks"
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bobbyg
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01-04-12 09:18 AM - Post#2175581
In response to DZAUTO
I have a 261 engine in my 51 Chevy style line
2dr.if I were to put a rear end from a 54 powerglide
in it,would the drive line buckel up without any
problems,and what year did Chevy stop the inclosed
drive line,also is there any way to put a open drive
line on to this motor.It is a standard 3 on a tree.
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B.Breedlove
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01-12-12 09:19 AM - Post#2178536
In response to Sixshooter
Stock C3 corvette rear fits like it was made for it. Got one in my 54. Also running a TPI stroker with M-22 4 spd. I don't know my hp but I'm pretty certain I'm even close to 500 though. If you find a C3 rear, running 500hp mtr you may want to upgrade the axles which isn't that expensive to do. The larger u-joints are designed to hold up at the stip.
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RICKYRICARDO
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06-10-12 08:48 AM - Post#2235406
In response to B.Breedlove
i have a 51 hardtop and i have 2 rear ends which one is best? 79 camaro rear or 67 nova 12 bolt?
the nova is 58 inches
Winter is a grand old time,
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Edited by RICKYRICARDO on 06-10-12 08:49 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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53belair
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06-10-12 10:00 AM - Post#2235423
In response to RICKYRICARDO
I'd go with the second gen camaro. It will be about a inch wider than the original (61" instead of 60"). A 4 1/4 or 4 1/2" backspaced wheel fixes that. That unit is also almost a "bolt in" with just a few mods including redrilling for the alignment hole. The 58" unit will require a custom wheel backspacing of around 3" or less depending on the tire you run or the use of a thick spacer.
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RICKYRICARDO
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06-10-12 10:17 AM - Post#2235429
In response to 53belair
cool thanks for the info.
Winter is a grand old time,
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postalcop
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06-10-12 08:31 PM - Post#2235623
In response to Sixshooter
My 74 Nova posi 2.73 rear end is bad. I know I could have it rebuilt and put in the gears I want but I really don't want to spend that much right now. I started looking for an Explorer 4x4 rear end or a chevy s10 4x4, mainly because of the gear ratios.
My question is, can I get 8" rims with the s10 rear end in my 53? I found one in my area on craigslist for $150 that has the rotors instead of drums. I have found some late 70s Nova rear ends too but not sure how much. I'm looking for the best option.
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53belair
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06-11-12 08:40 PM - Post#2236049
In response to postalcop
The question regarding fitment of wheels almost always comes down to the backspacing on the wheel. On the stock axle (and your current 60" nova) a 15/16 x 8 wheel will fit with a 4" back spacing. The Blazer axle is about 1 in. shorter so you would need about 1/2" less backspacing (3 1/2"). As the wheel/tire goes up in diameter it seems to require a little more backspacing, but that is very speculative and I'm not sure how big a wheel/tire is the maximum without tubbing.
I'm using a 2nd gen camaro rear so I need a 4 1/2 in backspacing instead of the 4 in.
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Sir X Loin
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01-06-13 02:57 PM - Post#2304634
In response to DZAUTO
My head is spinning, so forgive me for asking a question that has been asked a million times.
I want to update my driveline.
What would be the most common, cheapest, rear end for a driver that would fit a 51 styleline?
We dont have tri 5 chevys in the parts yard or even 69 cameros.
I want to keep my chevy bolt circle.
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Bob_Hayden
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01-06-13 03:17 PM - Post#2304643
In response to Sir X Loin
59 inch wide 4X4 Blazer. Thats what I have. You have to move the spring perches out but I know a guy that can make you new ones cheap and they are very good quality!!!! LOL
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Sir X Loin
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01-06-13 03:26 PM - Post#2304644
In response to Bob_Hayden
Haha, I heard he's a real pain in the butt to deal with!
What year Blazer? can you run normal wheels?
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