Ebach57
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01-19-11 08:38 AM - Post#2034144
Here is the issue.
It is a 1969 Chevy pickup truck. If I push in the clutch and put the truck in 1st gear and let out of the clutch the truck moves fine. As soon as I push in the clutch again the truck stops (like pulling into a parking place and going just a bit too far and the tires hit the curb. This also happens going in reverse the same way. If I put the truck in neutral it will roll easy forward and backward. I can not figure out what is the cause. Any help would be appreciated. I have checked everything I can think it could be and then other stuff that would not or could not do this just to be sure.
Paul
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01-19-11 11:03 AM - Post#2034222
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Be sure you have 'free play' in the linkage when the clutch pedal is "up". Release bearing could be going too far into clutch cover causing a binding. I'd go for an inch or so at the pedal pad.
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01-19-11 11:54 AM - Post#2034244
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I have free play in the linkage. Might not be exactly 1 inch but very close.
Paul
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01-19-11 05:41 PM - Post#2034375
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That is very strange! One thought is that the clutch is able to move the brake pedal.
Hopefully you can find the problem and let us know what is happening.
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01-19-11 06:27 PM - Post#2034398
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Are you absolutely positively sure you have the correct clutch,pressure plate,throw-out bearing?
Didn't force too long a throw-out in it did ya?
Is the nose-cone worn out(part the throw -out rides on)?Will cause a major bind.
Might be the synchronizers binding too.
I remember you posting this problem before.
Mike. 
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Mr.Axlesauce
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01-19-11 07:53 PM - Post#2034438
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Even though the pedal is adjusted to what feels right have you crawled under it to make sure. Is it a possibility that the free play in the pedal is due to worn out or sloppy linkage?
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leftys 71
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01-19-11 07:59 PM - Post#2034441
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You did'nt say if this is a granny 4 speed or 3 speed,if you replaced the clutch an pressure plate,there is a good chance that you could of installed the clutch itself backwards,second i had a problem with a pressure plate that would lock up when it hit a certain rpm, it would bring the rig almost to a complete stop before i could shift,of course this was years ago,if you start off in second an go to third,does it do the same thing?What rpm are you shifting at or trying to shift.One other thing to think about is the powertrain binding up your clutch linkage or is it worn out. good luck scratching you head.
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01-20-11 06:03 AM - Post#2034540
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Mike-I did post this before and got nowhere. I tryed some other things with no luck so now I am back.
Mr. Axlesause-Yes I have been under the truck checking linkage and play and all looks and feels correct.
Leftys71-Clutch is installed correctly and is new. Just a regular 4 speed. I am shifting at a low rpm right now so I dont break anything.
still scratching my head 
Paul
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01-20-11 12:40 PM - Post#2034675
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You never did say if it does the same thing from second gear to 3rd gear
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01-20-11 01:42 PM - Post#2034696
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Yes it will do it in all gears
Paul
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01-20-11 03:51 PM - Post#2034730
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Does you trans have loose needle bearings between the input shaft and main shaft?
You know-where you use grease to hold them in place while you assemble the shafts?
Maybe one fell in sideways and is binding the shafts.
Of course,you have to dis-assemble the trans to find out!
Or,I could mail you another trans! 
Mike.
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01-20-11 09:10 PM - Post#2034862
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Your clutch is not disengaging all the way,double check on the pressure plate part# an compare it to your old on,i've installed new parts that later on found that the part was wrong including a pressure plate.
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01-24-11 07:38 AM - Post#2036435
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Mike, I can't see it being the bearing due to I can spin the trans by hand through all the gears. If it was a bearing binding up I should not be able to do that.  sure mail one and come by to install. 
Paul
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01-24-11 07:45 AM - Post#2036441
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Lefty, I checked every thing to insure I had the correct parts before I went through the install. I know the clutch is working because I had my wife step on the clutch while I was under the truck and I could spin the drive shaft. Had to be working correctly. I thought I had it fixed then but it still did the same thing when I tryed to drive it.
Paul
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01-24-11 05:20 PM - Post#2036678
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Have you tried jacking up the truck so that all four wheels are off the ground. Once the truck is in the air, check to see which wheels are locked with the clutch depressed. It might help you narrow your problem somewhat.
Jim
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01-24-11 05:48 PM - Post#2036697
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Do you know how many stamps that would take?
I do have several extras laying around.They're spares for the 3 I drive.
I hope you find out what the problem is soon.We're all wondering what's wrong!
Mike.
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01-24-11 07:52 PM - Post#2036778
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Hi Jim,
I was wondering why you changed out the clutch in the first place,were you having issues before you changed the setup.I'm changing my 71 from an auto to a manuel,started picking up parts here and there,the arm under the dash that connects to your upper rod that goes threw the floorboard,the hole was oblonged out,it would be enough to get it into gear while sitting,but moving it doesn't have enough throw to completley disenguage the clutch,with the torque and guro effect of the pressure plate,take a look and good luck you will find your problem.
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01-24-11 07:56 PM - Post#2036780
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one other thing,if you take all your freeplay out of your pedal,and it shifts okay and disengages completely,then you don't have enough throw with the linkage.
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Ebach57
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01-26-11 08:24 AM - Post#2037523
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Well I don't know what was wrong but I ended up getting pi$$ed off and did a nice smokey burnout thinking if it breaks at least I would find out what it was. Now the truck works and I still dont know what it was 
Paul
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Edited by Ebach57 on 01-26-11 08:50 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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01-26-11 10:36 AM - Post#2037608
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Must have just needed some more "Breaking In"!
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01-27-11 02:12 PM - Post#2038105
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So, you scared the #*%$ out of it, and it decided to act right or get pounded?
The only thing I`m sure of, is that I`m not sure of anything.
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