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Username Post: 09 5.3L ENGINE TICK!!!        (Topic#250877)
tag1956 
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10-13-10 05:35 PM - Post#1989126    

My '09 Silverado has ~20k miles on it. Yesterday I started it with the remote starter when I walked out of work, it greeted me with a strong engine tick, sounded like a collapsed hydraulic lifter in an old small block. I've noticed what I thought was slight ticking before, but nothing like this. I turned it off and restarted 3-4 times but it kept ticking. I had no choice but to drive it and by the time i got home (~10 miles)it had stopped. I haven't heard it since - I change the oil regularly and it doesn't use oil. Just wondering if this is common with the 5.3L???



 
SpryGuy 
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10-13-10 07:24 PM - Post#1989173    
    In response to tag1956

My 2005 5.3 doesn't tick at all, should your still be under warranty? If so I would defiantly try that route. That isn't enough miles to be having troubles like that.

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wagonman100 
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10-14-10 04:36 AM - Post#1989278    
    In response to SpryGuy

Sounds like maybe you have a lifter that is taking a while to pump up. I would have it checked under warranty.

Jay
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elcamino 
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10-14-10 06:09 AM - Post#1989312    
    In response to wagonman100

well GM has several reasons for your ticking.

1. Not using the proper AC Delco oil filter (oil starvation)
3. Using other than 5W-30 oil, such as 10W, 15W etc
3. Normal
4. Defective AFM lifters
5. Cannot duplicate the noise



Here is just one example of tsb's on the subject. There is another that says to replace all the lifters but I cannot find it.

#PIP4499A: Short Duration Lifter Tick Noise On Cold Start - Aerated Oil In
Lifter - keywords BQMI - (Jun 16, 2009)


Subject:Short Duration Lifter Tick Noise on Cold Start - Aerated Oil in Lifter

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This PI was superseded to revise repair instructions to include replacing the oil pump and pick-up tube o-ring. Please discard PIP4499.
The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.
Condition/Concern:

Some customers may comment on a short duration lifter tick noise that occurs after cold start and can last for several minutes. This may be the result of air in the high pressure chamber of the lifter affecting valve train lash. When this occurs, valve closing velocity is increased, which causes the noise. Air can be present in the lifter at shutdown due to an aerated oil condition, or it can be ingested into the lifter during a cold start from a suction side leak at the oil pump or oil pump pick up tube o-ring. Oil aeration level, oil viscosity, time to achieve oil pressure, engine speed, and lifter design all play a part in whether lifter noise is observed. Once air gets into the high pressure chamber, it will slowly be expelled through the very tight clearance of the plunger and body.
Recommendation/Instructio ns:

If the SI diagnostics do not isolate the cause of this concern, perform a cylinder power balance test with the Tech 2 while listening to the noise.
If the noise is eliminated, or is greatly improved, each time a specific fuel injector is cancelled, there is most likely a concern with the clearance of the related piston pin or piston to cylinder wall of that cylinder.
If there is no change in the noise when canceling the fuel injectors with the Tech 2 and this noise occurs at valve speed, the noise is most likely a result of air in the lifters as described above. The air may be the result of a suction side leak at the oil pump and/or pick up tube o-ring, or it may be the result of the lifter design.
If this concern is encountered, replace the oil pump and pick up tube o-ring and re-evaluate the noise. If this does not repair the noise, updated lifters will most likely repair the noise but they will not be available until the 4th quarter of 2009. This P.I. will be updated with additional information as soon as they are available. Replacing the lifters with the ones currently in GMSPO stock may not repair the noise.
Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.

Mike
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elcamino 
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10-14-10 11:34 AM - Post#1989427    
    In response to elcamino

Found it

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-- AFM engine, valve lifter tick noise at start up

Verify the start up engine tick after sitting for 2 + hours does stop after a period of operation- replace all lifters, AFM and non- AFM


Don't replace other internal mechanical parts for start-up tick noise

Mike
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2016 Polaris RZR 900 EPS


 
Robdod 
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11-29-10 05:25 PM - Post#2011245    
    In response to tag1956

My 2000 silverado 5.3l has been noisy at startup since new it has been getting louder overtime at 140k it became very loud and would take 5 minutes to quite down I pay the Goodyear garage to change my oil and rotate my tires so I'm not sure what flavor oil they use but I hope they at least put 5w30 since it says it on the cap. Anyway I tried a Quart of risoline oil additive (detergant) and ran that for a couple weeks that didn't do anything for the noise so after doing some research on the Internet I decided to drain the oil and try castrol syntax 0 w 30
And a fram filter $8.00 a quart but my motor sounds better then it did when it was new It can sit for days I can start it up and barely here a tick. I noticed the risoline did clean out a bunch of chunky sludge so a clean out and syntec 0 w 30 did the trick for me! Mobile 1 has a synthetic 0 w 30 also.



 
Bad Bowtie 
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11-30-10 01:15 PM - Post#2011664    
    In response to Robdod

I would ditch that FRAM oil filter ASAP!!!

Stick with an AC Delco. You can even go with a K&N or Mobile 1 oil filter if your feeling "frisky".HAHAHA!!


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RockingMAR 
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11-30-10 03:29 PM - Post#2011721    
    In response to Bad Bowtie

I have a 2008 silverado with about 125K on it, I to started hearing a tick this past week end, 11-26, and today 11-30 the check engine light came on, pushed the blue button and ON'Star says there is a miss in the engine, needs to be taken to Dealer for repair. Dealer tells me that the lifters and cam need to be replaced. Cost around $ 3,000.00, just my luck the warrenty went out 15K miles ago.

'08 Silverado Z71 IN TEXAS


 
Bad Bowtie 
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12-01-10 09:17 AM - Post#2012062    
    In response to RockingMAR

  • RockingMAR Said:
I have a 2008 silverado with about 125K on it, I to started hearing a tick this past week end, 11-26, and today 11-30 the check engine light came on, pushed the blue button and ON'Star says there is a miss in the engine, needs to be taken to Dealer for repair. Dealer tells me that the lifters and cam need to be replaced. Cost around $ 3,000.00, just my luck the warrenty went out 15K miles ago.






OUCH!!!



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willz06jw 
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11-22-17 07:11 AM - Post#2715300    
    In response to tag1956

I fixed this problem on my truck by changing the Oil Pump Inlet Tube O-Ring. The lifters are the first part that don't get enough oil after this o-ring breaks down. All Chevrolet mid 2000s era 5.3L O-Ring fails around 150-190K.
Oil Pump Inlet tube O-Ring Replacement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1e3kx3mOMY



 
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