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Username Post: Paint Code Brandywine on 55 Chevy        (Topic#225194)
Gray Headed Mule 
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09-04-09 07:51 AM - Post#1766214    

I'm looking for a paint code for a color called Brandywine. I saw it at a Lone Star Classic Chevy convention. I didn't think that I would need a paint code when I spoke with the owner, but now it seems the paint supplier needs something other than Brandywine.

This is actually for the wifes car that I'm currently restoring.

Here is the car with the Bradywine color. Brandywine is the bottom color and Lilac is the top color. It would be nice if I could get both paint codes. I believe the owner of the car is in the Houston area.

Thanks for any help!

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09-04-09 09:35 AM - Post#1766278    
    In response to Gray Headed Mule

House of color has that or so it seems http://www.autopaint18.com/html/paint_kits.html

or http://www.automotive.com/2009/102/lexus/rx350/ bas...
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09-04-09 10:13 AM - Post#1766311    
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Mule, print that picture and take it to a good local auto paint store. They will be able to match it.

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Gray Headed Mule 
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09-04-09 10:29 AM - Post#1766317    
    In response to cnbell

Thanks for the replies. Pistol, wish they had a color chip for the Brandywine.....bur surely Brandywine is Brandywine!!

cnbell, when I spoke with them they said it needed to be around a 4" X 4" piece before they could "take a picture" and match it. Maybe if I print out an 8.5 X 11 it will be close enough to the color!

Thanks for the responses. This will help!
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09-04-09 10:43 AM - Post#1766327    
    In response to Gray Headed Mule

Yeah, you want a decent print. I have printed out good quality 8"x11" photos on glossy photo paper and they have been able to get a pretty good match from that.
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09-04-09 10:45 AM - Post#1766329    
    In response to Gray Headed Mule

My Vette is HOK Brandywine over gold flake. I'm guessing you are not looking for a candy color. As far as I know HOK Brandywine comes in only in candy.

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Gray Headed Mule 
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09-04-09 10:46 AM - Post#1766331    
    In response to cnbell

Yep! I learned that the last time when I painted my 56. Sure is a lot of difference in "economy" paints!

When I painted my 56 I did trial colors with PPG, I found the color I really liked....then bought the Omni brand...same color...supposedly..not even close!!

You live and learn!!
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Gray Headed Mule 
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09-04-09 10:48 AM - Post#1766335    
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awsumm55, I would love a candy color...but is the candy clor of HOK the same as a true candy??? I know when painting a candy color that there are many ways you can screw up the candy.

Or is HOK candy just spray on like bc/cc??
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09-04-09 11:19 AM - Post#1766350    
    In response to Gray Headed Mule

Black Base, then a gold metal flake over that, and then as many coats of Brandywine as you want to get the color you are after, and then a few coats of clear over that.
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09-04-09 11:30 AM - Post#1766359    
    In response to Gray Headed Mule

Ya know, I still haven't figgered out how Jo let you escape without buying that car for her!!! I said it then, and I'll say it again, that's a fantastic combination for a 2-door.
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Gray Headed Mule 
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09-04-09 01:06 PM - Post#1766416    
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awsum55, I've done a little reading since I posted this thread and now I understand that Brandywine is just a layer on top of others. More of a final finish before clearcoat. Different colors of bottom layers on the basecoat before applying Brandywine will give you a total different color!

Black then Brandywine, Gold then Brandywine......whatever to get the color you want. I did find a web site, TPC global, I believe, that will sell you test kits with several different colors of HOK so you can experiment with. Might have to go that route just to make sure I get what Momma wants. or it will be

Bruce...That was a sweet 55, BUT.....I couldn't quite swing the deal. I wanted to trade him some of my stuff for it, but Jo didn't like the idea of being traded for a car!
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09-04-09 02:27 PM - Post#1766463    
    In response to Gray Headed Mule

  • Gray Headed Mule Said:
awsumm55, I would love a candy color...but is the candy clor of HOK the same as a true candy??? I know when painting a candy color that there are many ways you can screw up the candy.

Or is HOK candy just spray on like bc/cc??



Depends- if you use HOK's UK01 Brandywine, then it's what you are thinking a kandy is. If you use KBC01, it is a kandy basecoat which is more like a basecoat than a kandy but more in how it sprays than how it looks. The kandy basecoats from HOK have fooled many into thinking it is a true kandy. These are much much easier for the weekend warior to spray and still acheive the kandy look. But as mentioned even with the KBC's it will all depend on the base you put under it.
Jay


Edited by kool53 on 09-04-09 02:29 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Rick_L 
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09-04-09 04:18 PM - Post#1766532    
    In response to Gray Headed Mule

A couple of thoughts here.

I saw that 55 at Roundrock, and it's got more purple in its hue than the other "Brandywine" paints I've seen. The ones I've seen are redder. And as you say the other color is lilac, so the purple matched it better than a deep red or maroon would.

Awsum's "brandywine" is more like what I think of when I hear that color name.

It wouldn't surprise me that there's more than one "brandywine" out there.

Of course the computer monitor can lie to you a bit on color, and my monitor may not be like yours.

True candy paint is a tri-coat, not a base/clear. You paint a base - black, silver, gold, yellow. Then you spray the candy and then clear over it all. The color and effect you get depends on the base, and then on how many coats of candy. The candy is translucent and lets the base show. How much depends on how much candy. Different bases will change the color and effect a lot. Since the candy is very translucent - it's very difficult for the inexperienced (sometimes even very experienced) to keep from having tiger stripes and shadows. And a bad candy job looks really bad IMO.

If you browse through color chips on late model cars, there's a lot of base/clear colors that have "candy" in the name. They are not true candies, though some may have some nice looks.

 
Gray Headed Mule 
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09-04-09 05:39 PM - Post#1766574    
    In response to Rick_L

Thanks kool53 and RickL,

I'm not even going to try the "true" candy. I have heard horror stories on getting it right. I'll try the KBC01 on a trial piece to see if it's what the wife wants.

Rick, from what I've read, there ARE several different colors of brandywines out there. After research, I don't think brandywine is a color, but more of a color process with this particular product. I believe it all depends on how many coats you base you lay on it and how many coats of brandywine you apply to get the color you end up with. This is what I have determined from reading so far.

Thanks for all of the responses guys and please keep them coming so I can learn as much as I can about this product.

Thanks!
Mule

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09-04-09 06:16 PM - Post#1766592    
    In response to Gray Headed Mule

Hey Mule, I bet if you contact the Austin Club they will be able to give you the name and number of #105.I don't remember seeing that car at any of our local shows.

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09-05-09 04:18 AM - Post#1766730    
    In response to Gray Headed Mule

Brandywine mica is the name they used for the 2008/2009 Lexas and that paint code is 4S6

Like others have said there could be a lot of brandywines, as far as the candy colors there could be as much as 4 different applications to get the color you want.

Could be black then mica or pearl or metallic base then the candy and then the clear, trying to match this color down the road is a nightmare, trying to get it to look like a candy color without all these steps is probably not going to happen.

I have been trying to do an orange color I have seen which is candy and instead of doing it in a three stage paint I want it in a two stage, well that's not going to happen so I went with the same base which is orange sherbet Pearle and I'm not doing the second application of candy, I'm going right to the clear-coat, I did do the inside of the doors Wednesday and I'm liking it.

If your wondering its a 39 Chevy gasser I have been working on for 5 years

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52chevybob 
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09-05-09 11:02 AM - Post#1766883    
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Brandywine is more of a brand's name for a color. Chevy used Cherry for that basic color. Basically a specific name for a maroon color. Candy colors are indeed a bit more difficult to paint as the deepness of the color depends upon how much paint are on the particular place on the body. Thus it becomes a lot more difficult to get an even coat as not only do you have to worry about orange peel and runs but also that the paint needs to be even.
Purpling of a finish is something that I've seeen happen (I had a car done in Grecian Gray, a dark gray metallic, and it had a purple tint that none of the '64 Fords had.

 
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09-05-09 01:24 PM - Post#1766948    
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Mule, just go down to the paint store with Jo and let her pick out a BCCC color she likes.
She may find something she likes as well or even better or a different color altogether.
(just keep her away from the greens. )
How's the car coming?
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09-05-09 04:50 PM - Post#1767014    
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I agree with Jeff, the name of a color doesn't mean much. Chevrolet calls the color of my Corvair "lemonwood yellow", Buick calls the same color code "cream", and Pontiac calls the same code "candlelite cream". Pick a color out of the book. The paint store will mix you a 2 oz. bottle for about $12. That's enough to paint about a 2' square panel. That's cheaper than buying a gallon of a color Jo won't like.
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09-06-09 05:50 AM - Post#1767143    
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Here's a GM "Brandywine Metallic" that was on a truck I bought years ago. Like Rick said, it does look more a red than the car in your post, but it also changes hue a bit on overcast days. This was, I believe, a mid 80's GM color...




Compare:




It has been a few years since I owned the truck, and without seeing both in person it would be hard to say, but the paint on the truck did darken up similar to that on non-sunny days...

The "purple hue" Rick spoke of, do you think it may have been pearl in the clear?
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09-06-09 10:24 AM - Post#1767238    
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  • Pistol Said:
trying to get it to look like a candy color without all these steps is probably not going to happen.




...give the KBC's from HOK a try, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised! Especially if you're worried about touch ups down the road- much easier than a tru kandy.
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09-06-09 10:34 AM - Post#1767244    
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And of course the 55 could have some flip flop (or whatever they call it these days) purple over the top.
I've still got some flip flop blue in my paint cabinet.
Ya think it's still good after 30 years?
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09-06-09 10:42 AM - Post#1767248    
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Yeah, you want a decent print. I have printed out good quality 8"x11" photos on glossy photo paper and they have been able to get a pretty good match from that.



Craig,

Real good advice....

from a guy with a black and white car!

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09-06-09 02:55 PM - Post#1767356    
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I painted my '70 El Camino Brandywine a few years ago. It was a stock Chevy and other GM cars color 15 to 20 or so years ago. The number that comes to mind is 68. Yep just 68, no long number. However I am not positive of this at all but it might worth giving it a try. Rich
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09-06-09 06:47 PM - Post#1767446    
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I have also seen this car in person at a show in Boerne,tx and i got a lot of pics of it.I'll see if i can post em or send em to one of y'all to post em.I'm doing a true Kandy right now on a bike and luckily i didn't get no striping. All i can say is Kandy is a lot of work.Also this car did look more purple to me,so much that i wouldn't think of it as a brandywine.
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09-07-09 05:14 AM - Post#1767548    
    In response to MPandC

Robert, the brandywine color that I originally referred to was a custom color, not an OEM color. Most likely the same one as awsum's Corvette.

Obviously as several have posted, there are also OEM colors called "brandywine".

The 55 with the purplish hue likely has some pearl applied.

I guess the search continues.

 
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09-07-09 09:25 AM - Post#1767643    
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Harvey,

The person who has that info is on vacation for the next three weeks.
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09-07-09 09:28 AM - Post#1767646    
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Thanks for all the comments.

I'm going to look at the KBC products and look around at dealerships to find a color close to what Mama wants.

I'm not going to go down the Kandy avenue! I screw up enough on my own without making things harder!

We did go to a car show yesterday and found a color close to what the 55 is. The guy didn't know what color it was. We looked at the door tag but couldn't find a paint code. It was probably in the glove box, but I didn't want to crawl all over his car...even though it was just a Ford Fusion...2007. That gives me a little bit of a lead!

Anyway, thanks everyone for the comments and ideas. And I'll definitely purchase a small amout before splurging for the whole thing!

Thanks
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09-07-09 10:35 AM - Post#1767669    
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Craig,

Real good advice....

from a guy with a black and white car!



I saw a car with the color I liked for my truck so I took a blown up hi-res photo in and they matched it from that.

Amazing how close they get from a photo. You should give it a try, I'm pretty sure they could match your various shades of rust.....
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