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Username Post: General EFI discussion        (Topic#217970)
paulm 
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06-04-09 09:58 AM - Post#1710957    
    In response to paulm

  • paulm Said:
My cam is a choppy SOB...I've had to do some things with timing/fuel at idle to keep it where I want. It seems (IMHO) that the bigger the cam, the further the idle range in which it will idle. I mean a lopey cam moves around in RPM at idle, so...for my cam if the desired idle is 750 and I set the idle column at 800 it will on it's own get above 800 just because of the lopey idle.



I also wanted to add that this is why you'll see pretty much everyone here with fairly high idle timing. If you can remove the "lope" or variation in idle RPM it is much easier to tune.

  • Scotts Auto Said:
but I still like the way Danny put it better – so hummmmf! (yeeouch)



LOL, that's cool.



 




Scotts 
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06-04-09 10:20 AM - Post#1710963    
    In response to paulm

I was being entirely facetious (as you are aware) – your explanation is exceptional - I was trying to - well you know... I am being a real Scott, back to my doghouse...

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BrianM 
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06-04-09 10:31 AM - Post#1710967    
    In response to paulm

Cam?

Voodoo 60142 solid flat tappet 249/257 .540/.560 108/104 (with 1.6 rockers on the intake)

Injector size?

42lb Ford injectors

Differential gear?

3.73

Compression?

10.5:1

Very similar but very different....


kPa
92---13.50---12.75---12.75---12.75---12.75---12.75---12.75---12.75
84---14.00---12.75---12.75---12.75---12.75---12.75---12.75---12.75
76---14.75---13.25---13.25---13.25---13.25---13.25---13.25---13.25
68---14.75---13.75---13.75---13.75---13.75---13.75---13.75---13.75
60---14.75---14.00---14.00---14.00---14.00---14.00---14.00---14.00
50---14.75---14.00---14.50---14.50---14.50---14.50---14.50---14.50
40---14.75---14.00---14.50---14.50---14.50---14.50---14.50---14.50
30---14.75---14.00---14.50---14.50---14.50---14.50---14.50---14.50
RPM--800-----1200----2000 ----3000----4000----4750- ---5250----5750

It's not funny how close this is to mine... There was another issue I had where the comp was running 80%-85% at cruise but the AFR never went below 14.6. The cell(s) is set to 14.5...baffles me.


Under light-Mid throttle AFR mine is 13.8-14.0, accomplished more in the fuel map that with AE.


IAC minimum position or throttle plates?? I know with my motor if the the throttle is set too far closed when I let off the pedal and the throttle slams shut the idle will drop too far for my liking.


IMHO, the decel fuel cutoff option is a very low priority. Disable it until you have everything working the way you want it to and then ease back into and find where the motor acts the way you want it to.

So out the window with Holley's recommended "10" for IAC position at idle setting? I guess I was trying to stay tight with what the manual said...maybe I'm too anal when it comes to manufacturer recommendations. Guess I need to relax.


There are parts of the fuel map that serve two purposes (depending on your kPa scale) accel and cruise. You have to tune to meet the highest fuel requirement and let O2 comp pull for the lower fuel needs...or rescale your kPa map to try and isolate.

That's what I sort of assumed. It pulls nice when I get beyond the shift point...hangs around 13.9-14.1


I wouldn't accept a lean spot in my tune but I am a bit obsessive/compulsive I guess, LOL!

That's what I'm saying! It's driving me a little nuts.

What I do when I get frustrated is disable decel cutoff, go to open loop, etc...try and remove as many variables as you can to try and identify the parameter that is screwing up the program. Sometimes there are just too many things going on all at the same time.




No doubt there's too much going on here. I'm going to try the open loop trick and maybe rescale the map, too.

Thanks for the input



-Brian

Power Tour Countdown 1

1968 Camaro, C4 brakes up front, Gen4 Fbody brakes out back, Hotchkis suspension, 406 SBC, Holley StealthRam, Lunati Voodoo 233/241 @ .050, .504/.525, 110/106 LSA, 1.6 rockers, 68cc humpers, 5-speed manual.


 
paulm 
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06-04-09 10:58 AM - Post#1710984    
    In response to BrianM

So out the window with Holley's recommended "10" for IAC position at idle setting? I guess I was trying to stay tight with what the manual said...maybe I'm too anal when it comes to manufacturer recommendations. Guess I need to relax.

The minimum IAC position at idle in mine is zero to enable the high idle "fix". I'm not sure if I need it or not but that's what it is.

I have found it more important to make sure that when I am backing up or going forward and slightly blip the throttle to get over a bump that the engine stays running when I let off the throttle than to stay with what the manual says that the IAC should be when idling at operating temp in park. The IAC position at idle at operating temp in park is very low or even at times zero with no load. If there is any load from the electric fan or if I put it in gear the IAC responds appropriately to maintain the desired idle RPM.

Blah, blah, blah...adjust the throttle plates/IAC minimum position so that the engine runs best for you in all situations.

maybe rescale the map, too.

As an example, when accelerating very slowly I had trouble keeping the AFR where I wanted. There were two main issues, O2 Comp and fuel map. Ignoring the O2 comp (which was too high) the kPa under light acceleration was low 50's. In contrast highway cruise was at times high 40's. So that means that highway cruise and light acceleration were both pulling from the 50 kPa row. I had kPa rows of 45,50,55,60 so what I did was change the 55 kPa row to 52. This allowed the ECU to pull from the fatter 52 row under light acceleration and from the 50 row at cruise.

So I could have allowed the ECU to pull from the 50 row for both light accel and cruise but I would have had to give it a higher O2 comp. I chose to limit the O2 comp and add a fatter kPa row for light accel and retain the leaner 50 row for cruise.


P.S. I should add that my tuning goal, whether right or wrong, is to be able to run open loop and suffer very little. In a perfect world I would like every fueling need have it's own particular area on the map to pull from so as to share as little as possible so that I can keep my O2 comps as low as possible.



 
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06-04-09 12:46 PM - Post#1711027    
    In response to paulm

WOW!!! when i read all of these problems..and all the set up needed..it sure makes using/modifing a factory EFI..TPI, TBI, MPFI, Mini Ram Jet etc...look pretty tame..throw in the right EPROM..and drive

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paulm 
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06-04-09 01:03 PM - Post#1711045    
    In response to ralph47

It's not about whether it "drives" or not, it's about having it drive "right" and "right" is all about your personal preference.



 
Scotts 
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06-04-09 01:06 PM - Post#1711047    
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  • ralph47 Said:
WOW!!! when i read all of these problems..and all the set up needed..it sure makes using/modifing a factory EFI..TPI, TBI, MPFI, Mini Ram Jet etc...look pretty tame..throw in the right EPROM..and drive



They aren't really problems - they are the result of changing engine specs to the point where the right EPROM doesn't exist!

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ralph47 
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06-04-09 01:59 PM - Post#1711086    
    In response to paulm

no not just drives..but drives very well...have a slight surge in my 39 coupe...060 over 327, dart 64 cc heads..with heads and pistons..about 10:1 compression..crane cam..can't find specs..like the 292 magnum cams...26lb injectors..edelbrock runners...headers..700r4 trans...have never got the surge out..only happens on occasion..cruising at maybe 75-80 steady throttle..the oddest is..sometimes at idle..just shuts off..no warning etc..starts right up..doesn't happen again for few thousand miles..maddening..but i no longer try to let things get under my skin...you can keep fixing till it is really broke..we have all done it.

EFI does have parameters that it doesn't like to be outside of..no matter what type you use......but...you see the HP generated by the exotic types..but that came with millions spent on R&D for that engine alone...aftermarket companies limitations begin somewhat with trying to make "one size fits all" units..is best for them..but not for us when we start to step outside the box they have set up

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paulm 
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06-04-09 02:27 PM - Post#1711115    
    In response to ralph47

Yup, it's those little things that drive you nuts...unless you just live with em.



 
ralph47 
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06-04-09 05:04 PM - Post#1711213    
    In response to paulm

yep...got myself so aggravated..i realized i wasn't having fun...i'm to stinkin old to not have fun...so i have learned to live with things..and enjoy the good

54 Chevy Handyman Wagon
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revheadgl 
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06-11-09 03:56 AM - Post#1714974    
    In response to ralph47

What a crock! I posted this for a laugh!

How about theses things? I was flicking through a mag the other day and saw one of these and the claims..... WTF!

http://www.hicloneqld.com/products.html

Call me cynic, (or a realist) but I cant see how anything like this could possibly improve fuel economy let alone anything else??!!


There are heaps of others, all making ridiculous claims,

Here is another, and there are heaps more of these things.
http://www.vorteccyclone.com/savegas.html?gclid=CO...

We should start an online petition to get these ads banned so poor buggers that dont know any better, dont get ripped off!



67 Falcon 289, Weiand 174 @ 8.5 psi boost,
Edelbrock Performer RPM Heads, 216/228 0.483/0.480 0.050 112 degrees LSA. Forged pistons 9.0-1, Holley 950-24s system, Ford TFI, Crane HI-6 & LX92.


 
Scotts 
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06-11-09 05:56 AM - Post#1715009    
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Back in 1963 - I knew a man by the name of Frank Aust out of Livonia, Mi. He patented these devices, identical in design and application sometime in the 50's.

He built and raced the "midget's" with Offenhauser engines - they were radial little beasts.

Unfortunately, the cyclone devices never took off at that time, but he had a shelf filled with prototypes to the production units. I used to look at them in amazement as the first units were hand crafted.

I believe they had merit on carbed engines with intake and carb designs of the period, however I also remember gasoline at 12 cents a gallon - a hard sell at that time.

He lost everything in the process, opened a Texaco station and worked till he was 68 and the expressway took the building. He spent the rest of his life serving "Meals on Wheels" to the elderly.

A side note – he hired me part time at 10 to pump gas, at the age of 12 doing tune-up’s, brakes and tire repair - the rest is history!

Funny, it seems it’s come full circle in 60 years!


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revheadgl 
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06-11-09 06:26 AM - Post#1715028    
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LOL!
My first job ever, was pulling petrol, (pump attendant) in 76 when I was 16. That was back when you checked the water and the oil etc.

The owner of the station told me to check the oil and tell the owner it needed a top up, and then put oil in the car even if it didnt need it.... basically to overfill it. His reason was that there was more profit in oil than there was in petrol!
I refused to do it. I was unemployed shortly there after!

The franchise was Golden Fleece!!! They were forced to close up shop in Aus many many years ago.
Whats in a name?
Oh the irony!!!!!


67 Falcon 289, Weiand 174 @ 8.5 psi boost,
Edelbrock Performer RPM Heads, 216/228 0.483/0.480 0.050 112 degrees LSA. Forged pistons 9.0-1, Holley 950-24s system, Ford TFI, Crane HI-6 & LX92.


 
revheadgl 
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06-11-09 06:57 AM - Post#1715035    
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Snake oil salesmen get whats coming to them, but not soon enough, unfortunately.

Another thing that really bothers me is these people selling electric superchargers/turbocharge rs.

They have as much hope as working as an icecream in Hades has in surviving.

They are nothing more than electric model plane ducted fan units. Even the best of them can only output something like 1000 watts at a battery sappping efficiency of around 60%, so I am told.

I have no way of measuring it, but apparently rootes blowers take @ 22,500 watts (@ 30hp!) just to turn them over at idle speeds!!!!!!!!!!!

I will stick with properly tuned EFI thanks!!

BTW, this is all just tongue in cheek, and I really believe the advertising . Like yeah!



67 Falcon 289, Weiand 174 @ 8.5 psi boost,
Edelbrock Performer RPM Heads, 216/228 0.483/0.480 0.050 112 degrees LSA. Forged pistons 9.0-1, Holley 950-24s system, Ford TFI, Crane HI-6 & LX92.


 
Scotts 
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06-11-09 07:08 AM - Post#1715037    
    In response to revheadgl

In a prosperous market, anything goes - like the "Pet Rock", it makes no claims on mileage or even as a paper weight!

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revheadgl 
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06-11-09 07:41 AM - Post#1715052    
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Prosperous or gullible?

Quote from the world's leading alternative energy magazine, Alternative Power.

"Our World leading team of scientists, chemical engineers and computer technicians have discovered an element within the periodic table that no other scientist has ever searched for nor found. This is a ground breaking discovery like no other! He said.

Further more he added, "This will enable us to produce oil from water". The spokesman from this world leading energy producing company added that "We will be producing oil from water within 18-26 months" .

Adding "We are going to make available, a limited number of shares available to the general public"
He also advised, that now is the time to take this opportunity to, in his words " Help save the world and make a fortune at the same time!"


Totally fictional and utter crap, but, I had some of you, for some of the way. Didnt I? Come on, I had some of you believing?

See how easy it would be????

Again, just for laughs!


67 Falcon 289, Weiand 174 @ 8.5 psi boost,
Edelbrock Performer RPM Heads, 216/228 0.483/0.480 0.050 112 degrees LSA. Forged pistons 9.0-1, Holley 950-24s system, Ford TFI, Crane HI-6 & LX92.


 
hoppycamaro 
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06-11-09 08:17 AM - Post#1715066    
    In response to revheadgl

  • revheadgl Said:
Prosperous or gullible?

"We are going to make available, a limited number of shares available to the general public"





I'll take two!



 
revheadgl 
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06-11-09 08:25 AM - Post#1715073    
    In response to hoppycamaro



Our senior investigative journalists were offered an exclusive interview with the new company but they decided to decline the meeting.

We have tried to contact this company repeatedly in the moments before and after the proposed interview, but we have been unable to get into contact with the directors or major share holders.



67 Falcon 289, Weiand 174 @ 8.5 psi boost,
Edelbrock Performer RPM Heads, 216/228 0.483/0.480 0.050 112 degrees LSA. Forged pistons 9.0-1, Holley 950-24s system, Ford TFI, Crane HI-6 & LX92.


 
revheadgl 
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06-11-09 08:29 AM - Post#1715078    
    In response to revheadgl

At CNNNNNNNNN, we have done our best to chase these people, but it seems they have disappeared up there own a#$holes. Much like the truth!!!!

Share prices have now dropped lower than a snakes belly.

Place your money in your pocket!!!

67 Falcon 289, Weiand 174 @ 8.5 psi boost,
Edelbrock Performer RPM Heads, 216/228 0.483/0.480 0.050 112 degrees LSA. Forged pistons 9.0-1, Holley 950-24s system, Ford TFI, Crane HI-6 & LX92.


 
revheadgl 
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06-11-09 08:31 AM - Post#1715079    
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I'll take two!


Well done my friend! Come and pay your money!
Here's your bottle of snake oil!


67 Falcon 289, Weiand 174 @ 8.5 psi boost,
Edelbrock Performer RPM Heads, 216/228 0.483/0.480 0.050 112 degrees LSA. Forged pistons 9.0-1, Holley 950-24s system, Ford TFI, Crane HI-6 & LX92.


 
revheadgl 
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06-15-09 06:39 AM - Post#1717376    
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Oops! Sorry, Aus humour is a bit sharp and dry.

67 Falcon 289, Weiand 174 @ 8.5 psi boost,
Edelbrock Performer RPM Heads, 216/228 0.483/0.480 0.050 112 degrees LSA. Forged pistons 9.0-1, Holley 950-24s system, Ford TFI, Crane HI-6 & LX92.


 
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06-16-09 04:20 AM - Post#1717902    
    In response to ralph47

Latest swap. pulled a tired old 305, dropped an iron head LT1/harness/pcm/S-10 column....under $600. He's happy.









Dave MacDonald
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'66 Impala LT1/C950-,EFI,700R4,(sold 07/2011)
'12 Sonic LTZ, Turbo, M6
'07 Pontiac Solstice GXP
'06 Caddy CTS-V


Edited by D.Mac on 06-16-09 04:31 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Doug_F 
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06-17-09 07:04 PM - Post#1719001    
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$600? Can't beat that!

Doug
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revheadgl 
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06-18-09 05:49 AM - Post#1719190    
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That is one nice car! I really like it!

67 Falcon 289, Weiand 174 @ 8.5 psi boost,
Edelbrock Performer RPM Heads, 216/228 0.483/0.480 0.050 112 degrees LSA. Forged pistons 9.0-1, Holley 950-24s system, Ford TFI, Crane HI-6 & LX92.


 
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06-18-09 06:09 AM - Post#1719200    
    In response to revheadgl

D.Mac, that's a great engine swap! Nice work!

May God's Grace Bless You

'78 BRONCO: 508" stroker, TFS heads, Dominator MPFI & DIS, A/C, Lentech Strip Terminator AOD, 3:1 Atlas II, modified Dana 44/60-lockers-4.10s, hydroboost/4-disc brakes, ram-assist/heim joint steering, 4" lift, 35" tires


 
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07-08-09 07:23 PM - Post#1731476    
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I figured since the topic was being resurrected I would ask a question.

I have similar issue with my car c950 65lb injectors. I've got everything starting to work out pretty well. I have an issue with giving light throttle off an idle. Everywhere else is ok. Whenever I go to come off idle either lightly or by quick stabs of the throttle, the car wants to stall, or sputter.


I based my map off the wbsc14sc. I leaned out my fuel map to run at 15:1 at idle and the car seems to really like it well. Also running 22 degrees timing. On "AE vs TPS" I removed the default enrichment and set it to 100 on the first 2 boxes. This made a big difference, but still doesn't have that snappy throttle and wants to choke a little.

I attempted to change my engine parameter to fire injector PW to 1 every 2 cycles, but that really made it run like crap.... Any suggestions? I'm also having issues getting my IAC figured out. I have my idle screw bottomed out. I double checked everything from tps settings to making sure the timing was in sync. Everything looks good and now the car is idling well and running very smoothly.

I didn't mean to post this here. I thought I was posting under the thread titled "Car stalls with light throttle". Maybe a moderator could move it?


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Edited by Spr-Pwr on 07-08-09 07:28 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Scotts 
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07-17-09 09:43 AM - Post#1736582    
    In response to Spr-Pwr

Doug, if I may be so bold - what's the 411 on the new Holley system???

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07-20-09 09:47 AM - Post#1738516    
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  • Scotts Auto Said:
Doug, if I may be so bold - what's the 411 on the new Holley system???



Well, one in my car just won in the finals this weekend running within .02 as the air cooled and went 9.69 on a hit of dry spray in qualifying. So that is good!

You could look in my car and see it if you were at Beech Bend!

I've gotten a lot done, but still have a lot more to go. The plan is to release the end of this year and show everything at the trade shows this fall. There's a lot of components and features to this system requiring a lot of work and testing.

But moving forward.

Doug
1972 Nova
6.0L LSx, 80mm BorgWarner, 4L80E
9.34@147


 
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07-20-09 09:49 AM - Post#1738517    
    In response to Spr-Pwr

  • Spr-Pwr Said:
I figured since the topic was being resurrected I would ask a question.

I have similar issue with my car c950 65lb injectors. I've got everything starting to work out pretty well. I have an issue with giving light throttle off an idle. Everywhere else is ok. Whenever I go to come off idle either lightly or by quick stabs of the throttle, the car wants to stall, or sputter.


I based my map off the wbsc14sc. I leaned out my fuel map to run at 15:1 at idle and the car seems to really like it well. Also running 22 degrees timing. On "AE vs TPS" I removed the default enrichment and set it to 100 on the first 2 boxes. This made a big difference, but still doesn't have that snappy throttle and wants to choke a little.

I attempted to change my engine parameter to fire injector PW to 1 every 2 cycles, but that really made it run like crap.... Any suggestions? I'm also having issues getting my IAC figured out. I have my idle screw bottomed out. I double checked everything from tps settings to making sure the timing was in sync. Everything looks good and now the car is idling well and running very smoothly.

I didn't mean to post this here. I thought I was posting under the thread titled "Car stalls with light throttle". Maybe a moderator could move it?




Datalog such an event and look at it. Odds are when the RPM falls low and MAP goes up the fuel map is too rich or too lean. I'd guess it may be too rich judging by your comments and this chokes the engine down when the RPM falls and vacuum decreases.


Doug
1972 Nova
6.0L LSx, 80mm BorgWarner, 4L80E
9.34@147


 
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07-20-09 10:14 AM - Post#1738542    
    In response to Doug_F

  • Doug_F Said:
  • Scotts Auto Said:
Doug, if I may be so bold - what's the 411 on the new Holley system???



Well, one in my car just won in the finals this weekend running within .02 as the air cooled and went 9.69 on a hit of dry spray in qualifying. So that is good!

You could look in my car and see it if you were at Beech Bend!

I've gotten a lot done, but still have a lot more to go. The plan is to release the end of this year and show everything at the trade shows this fall. There's a lot of components and features to this system requiring a lot of work and testing.

But moving forward.



In an effort to salivate even further, if you could choose one thing – what is the most beneficial point in your application... I'll understand if your unable to answer as it will not encompass the attributes of the entire system, just a snippet – perhaps???

Otherwise, great news and thanks, when it comes time to see one, I'll open my own hood!


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