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Username Post: 2Loose 55 Gasser Questions        (Topic#212981)
2Loose 
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04-12-09 09:51 PM - Post#1675021    
    In response to ssffnomad

Way Cool !!!
Thank for all the photos, inspires me to get back to work on my rig.....
Sounding more and more like the sawzall is gonna hit the front frame rails.....
Gotta go cost out the steel first....
That stuff is $$$pendy over here!
Willy

PS, love the shot with the kids...
My 4 grand kids are between 6 months and 4 yrs, can hardly wait for them to get big enough to go for a ride in grampa's "Coconut Express"....



Edited by 2Loose on 04-12-09 09:53 PM. Reason for edit: grandkids.....

 

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04-12-09 09:55 PM - Post#1675022    
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Measure more than twice, cut once

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2Loose 
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04-12-09 10:05 PM - Post#1675026    
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I know, I really like the curve, shape of the front frame rails, as an alternative I was looking at carving out the cross member, shaving it down to just the bare rails, box them in nicely for strength and looks, put a new tube, probably 3", across in front, placed to catch the front body support and set the radiator on, in my mind I think it would look pretty nice, but it wouldn't sit as high that way. Still.....


This one comes pretty close to what I'm aiming for...

PS,
OK, I'm gonna fess up here, almost made a "rude" mistake last fri nite at "Fender Friday", the boys were helping me with the gasser, and we decided to start pulling the rear apart so when the new rims/tires get here we can set them in and see how much I gotta narrow the niner I have on hand.

The bolts on the springs were really, really rusted, so I fire up the torch, and one of the boys (aptly named "Jeff") sez, "Willy, doncha think ya outta pull da gas tank outta der....??"
Ooops, get the sawzall and cut the gas tank strap bolts, drop the tank, pull it out, and the top has a coupla holes rusted in it. Probly all dried out, but......
We spent the rest of the nite daring each other to go over to that tank in the middle of the yard and drop a match on it, nobody would....

But then we torched the spring bolts and dropped the rear end....

A good reminder, ALWAYS drop the fuel tank before going near there with a torch....



Edited by 2Loose on 04-12-09 10:25 PM. Reason for edit: Fireball Adams Almost Visited....

 
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04-13-09 07:32 AM - Post#1675175    
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Willy,

Here's a pic of a "Two Lane Blacktop" replica we saw at the Super Chevy show in NH. Loved the look. Good luck with yours.



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04-13-09 10:36 AM - Post#1675273    
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I think Scotto/Blevins 55 Nomad ran Modified/ Production, too. Looks set up for that in photo.



 
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04-13-09 10:38 AM - Post#1675275    
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2Loose , you will notice in the pictures of the HT, stainless tubing was used on front of new frame horns.

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04-13-09 08:42 PM - Post#1675796    
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Please try to find 2 1/2 x 4 " steel

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04-16-09 07:16 AM - Post#1677695    
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willy

i like how your mock up is looking.

the wheels that you picked for it are cool...better than the smoothies would have looked IMO.

this is going to be a cool car...especially if you put the blower motor in there!

please keep us updated on the build-

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04-19-09 02:58 PM - Post#1680195    
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Got the rear end pulled out, and pulled apart. The springs were not worth saving. Added 'em to the scrap metal trailer, it's gettin' pretty full, going to be time for a trip to the metal recycle yard soon.... Kept the rear end and the driveshaft, added them to the "spare parts pile"....

Still need to cut out the inner fender well, as I am going to minitub it. Marked it out for the cuts, will cut it tomorrow.

Summit finally admitted that they could not supply a 10" wide wheel to match the 8" wheel in front, in the bolt pattern I needed, so I just changed the order to a Weld Draglite in 12". It arrived yesterday, will mount the tires I have and put it under the car and take a couple of pix....

I don't mind at all if there are two different wheels front and back....
We'll see how it looks though....
Aloha,
Willy

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04-21-09 08:56 PM - Post#1682188    
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Got the rear tubs removed and the rear wheels in there. Snug fit, with the sidewall bulge, but after I roll the lips I should have about 3/4" to 7/8" clearance both sides of each tire, so gotta narrow the axle housing pretty exact. I'm getting new end pieces for the housing, as opposed to chopping off and rewelding on the old end pieces, which is my usual procedure. Currie is taking off 4 inches each side and resplining the axles, and running the splines up 4" (I only need 3"), which is far enough that I can "fine tune" the length as needed. Let's see how well I pull that off.
link to rear end fit

I also got Summit to admit that they can get me a pair of the original rims (like the front ones) in 10" wide, but with a 5 on 5.5" pattern, so I will have to redrill these axle flanges (Oooofff, my poor smoking drill bits) and tap for that, as they are now 5 on 4.75" pattern. I have drag radials on these 12" Weld rims, probably would be nice to have some better street tires on the Summit 10" rims, and I can swap back and forth. Not sure how to handle the bolt pattern change over though. Thinking about that one. Guess I could switch to a lug bolt instead of a lug nut and stud setup. There is plenty of meat in those flanges for such a setup. Was looking at the Gorrilla product line, looks like I could get just what I want to do that.
Aloha,
Willy



 
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04-22-09 09:18 AM - Post#1682462    
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Send the axles to Moser, they'll drill them and install lugs for less than 100 bucks.
Press on new bearings/seals for a bit more, and you're ready to go.
Save your drills for something else.
Looking good!

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04-22-09 10:42 AM - Post#1682509    
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I checked with Moser, Currie, Strange and Dutchman on shortening my 35 spline axles 4" each, and buying a third member setup for the 35 spline, detroit locker, and 3.50 gears, and Currie gave me the best price for the total package setup I need, combined with shortening and re-splining my Moser axles, so it's a done deal with Currie. They have my axles now, already sent them in, to be re-splined. I'll call them and see if they can drill them too while they have them. The bearings are already on the axles, Currie said that was not a problem.

I have drilled them before, just need good bits, drill fluid, and take my time doing it.
Aloha,
Willy



 
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04-27-09 11:59 PM - Post#1686640    
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Had to narrow the front axle (59 Ford truck axle) to fit my new front wheels under the '55 fenders.

Posted a pictorial here.

Now I need to find some parts to rebuild the springs (spring end bushings and teflon spring buttons, found some from Posies, just need to order them) and spindle mounts (grease seals and the spacer/bearing whatever it is on the kingpin under the spindle, the spindle bushings look great!) and stick it under that car.
Aloha,
Willy




 
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04-28-09 05:49 AM - Post#1686730    
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Excellent work Willy.

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05-02-09 10:35 AM - Post#1689927    
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Moving ahead, last nite we pulled the old 235 six and 3sp, and got the sawzall tuned up and whacked off the front frame rails at about the steering box location. And I forgot my camera, will take pix today. Guess we are committed now!

You know the diff between being involved and being committed? The chicken is involved in egg production, but the pig is committed to ham production!

Maybe we all ought to be committed, that's what my wife sez....
Aloha,
Willy



 
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05-06-09 02:37 PM - Post#1692564    
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Well, here's what happens when a nutcase gets loose with a sawzall....

Only two pix on my webpage so far, will add more as we get started on the frame mods....

Link To "WhackJob" page

Here's a frame job on a '55 called "Shaky Puddin", I like the work these guys did, let's see how ours stacks up when it's all over but the drinkin'.....


I particularly like this shot when they were mocking up everything with the headers on, love those headers....

Aloha,
Willy



Edited by 2Loose on 05-06-09 02:45 PM. Reason for edit: Added Header Shot

 
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05-06-09 02:58 PM - Post#1692581    
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Ummm....Willy?

You're committed now!

Bring on that Hawaiian style straight axel 4 door gasser!

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05-07-09 11:01 AM - Post#1693194    
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Junior


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05-07-09 07:10 PM - Post#1693482    
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" Nice Stance"

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05-07-09 09:30 PM - Post#1693556    
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  • ssffnomad Said:
" Nice Stance"


....but what about the car?



 
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05-07-09 09:52 PM - Post#1693568    
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What car?


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05-08-09 07:47 AM - Post#1693735    
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Mailbox post?


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05-08-09 08:14 AM - Post#1693746    
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New 2-1/2" x 4" x 1/8" box steel is on order to build new rails. "That A Boy"

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05-08-09 10:00 AM - Post#1693784    
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Well, my steel supplier on Oahu called back and did not have any 2.5" x 4", and didn't see getting any soon, so I ended up with a stick of the 2x4 by 1/8". He did have 3x4, but that looked like overkill....
Man steel prices have sure gone up, I had to pay $200 for that 21' stick!!!

Let's see how nice I can work this transition and make it all strong and fit properly. Will be setting this all up over the weekend, wife permitting....

AND, my 8" shortened axles (4" on a side) arrived from Currie, after I shorten the housing that will give me 53" flange to flange at the rear, which will center those 12" wide Welds (4.5" BS) in the minitubbed wheel wells....

The new Currie Detroit Locker third member and a new set of drum brakes ($$ figured in on that choice) also arrived, so now it is up to me to put it all together, it was like Christmas yesterday opening up and unpacking all this!

What Fun!
Willy



 
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05-14-09 10:28 AM - Post#1697574    
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Got the 9" rear end shortened up and trial fitted under the car, came out perfect! More pix here....
Aloha,
Willy




 
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05-14-09 11:13 AM - Post#1697612    
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Cool build Willy, that thing is going to be a blast to ride in.

The wheels and tires look great...

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06-27-09 12:35 PM - Post#1724495    
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Hi Guys.....
Am back from my travels in Italy and France, and am back to work on the '55 gasser project, started setting up the new front frame rails, and positioning the front axle and springs:

LINK TO MORE PHOTOS

It's coming along, taking my time and measuring everything repeatedly, I only want to weld this up one time!



I'm enjoying this project. I'm not working (the income producing kind) this year, so far, and not from choice, so I have more time to put in on my projects (and my wife's projects......), but am out of money, so good thing I already have most of the parts I need for this project on hand. The body will stay as is, with "original patina", for some time. The body is essentially solid, the doors hang straight and the hinges are tight, same with the hood and trunk hinges. Eventually it'll get redone, but just want to get it running and safe to drive!

Aloha,
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06-27-09 02:58 PM - Post#1724559    
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Geez Willy, I didn't know that you were going to Europe!! We are going to Italy the first week of September..Right now Florence, Cinque Terra, Lake Como, Portofino and Venice are on the agenda, but we had such a great time in Sorrento, we might go back there too...

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06-27-09 04:31 PM - Post#1724612    
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Hi Thadd,
Rome to Cortona to Bologna to Ravenna to Portovenere to Cinqueterre to Piedmonte (Viverone) to Mt. Blanc then up to France. Visited Normandy on the 65th celebration of D-Day! Wonderful trip, drove about 5,000 km all told, good roads, fast driving, all good drivers over there, a fun trip!
Willy



 
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07-11-09 12:59 PM - Post#1732925    
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Got the front springs mounted, looks good to go!

I've got 6 deg caster built into it, if I want more I will add steel wedges under the springs.

Will now setup a spare Olds 455 block I have with the pan and blower on it to determine final motor location and any possible interference with the steering setup. Still looking at several options for the steering.

Have any of you seen anyone do a proper job of using the stock '55 steering box with a straight axle setup? Location looks wrong to me, but will investigate further before final decision.
MORE PIX HERE
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