 elcamino72
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03-01-09 03:47 PM - Post#1641399
I'm in the process of cleaning up my old '59 and I want to refinish the bedwood. I'm going to stain the wood, but I want the clear to be extremely glossy. The truck stays inside 98% of the time and only goes out on gorgeous days in the summer to car shows/events. What clear have you used? Has anyone ever had any luck wetsanding and buffing out the clear for an even deeper shine? If so what did you use?
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03-01-09 07:25 PM - Post#1641592
In response to elcamino72
Mar-K has some finish test data on their site. My wood is still in a stack and hasn't been out yet, but it is finished with the Minwax Helmsman Poly-urethane. 
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03-02-09 11:50 AM - Post#1642013
In response to monty56
brian,
i stained the wood sides on my 76 c30 dump and coated with minwax clear shield from the home depot. it's made for exterior and works well, i only did one quick coat and it's extremely glossy and it has held up well, the truck gets abused and sits outside all the time.
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03-02-09 03:07 PM - Post#1642145
In response to patgizz
I used Minwax Polyurethane spar Varnish (3 coats) and it has not held up well at all. In fact it is just the pits. This was on natural pine and it sat outdoors but the high UV at this altitude has completely killed it in just 1.5 years. It will require complete disassembly and refinishing. Drat!!
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elcamino72
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03-07-09 07:02 PM - Post#1646153
In response to FlyinRed7
Well, I've made a decision. I've chosen Old Master's Deep Red Penetrating Crimson Fire Stain and a water based polyurethane that I think will really make the bed pop.
Here are some pictures of my current progress
Here is the bed before I started.
Here is the underneath of one of the boards ... I sanded both the tops and bottoms of the boards. I used a belt sander, started with 36 grit and finished up with 120 grit. It took about 8 hours of continuous sanding to get the boards ready for stain.
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elcamino72
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03-07-09 07:09 PM - Post#1646156
In response to elcamino72
Here are the bottoms of the boards stained with the new red stain. It sure looks better than the grease and paint that was previously on the boards.
Here is one of the boards mocked up in the bed, I think the red will look great against the black lacquer.
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I'll try to post some more pictures when I make some more progress.
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apache31
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03-11-09 02:01 PM - Post#1649140
In response to elcamino72
Marine Varnish. See pics in my signature.
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03-24-09 08:14 PM - Post#1660153
In response to apache31
Classic trucks had an article on using Bruce Horkeys 'Old Master" stain and spar varnish.
They did color sand and polish just as you would a paint job.
It looked great.
Just be sure to have plenty of coats, I think he had 7 coats of varnish.
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elcamino72
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05-02-09 04:56 PM - Post#1690124
In response to elcamino72
Well, here is the completed job. As I previously posted, I used Old Master's Crimson Fire stain followed by ZAR water-based polyurethane. I put 4 coats of poly urethane on the bottoms of the boards and 6 or 7 coats on the tops. The ZAR polyurethane is probably the nicest that I've ever used, it goes on very smooth and lays down perfectly. Also, I was able to polish my bed strips and bolts. All told, I probably don't have $150.00 into this project ... I do however have near that many hours though 
Enjoy!
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05-03-09 03:52 AM - Post#1690341
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Looks good! Is there a reason you didn't use the offset washers under the bolt heads?
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elcamino72
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05-03-09 08:33 AM - Post#1690359
In response to Don57
I didn't use the offset washers because there was no need. The carriage bolts pulled right into the boards making a nice tight square hole.
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oldyellow77
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06-14-09 08:04 AM - Post#1716799
In response to elcamino72
I used McCloskey Man O' War Spar Varnish and got great results. I read everywhere that beyond 4 coats is a waste of time and varnish.
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06-18-09 05:17 PM - Post#1719557
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I used marine spar varnish ,it holds up well ,you can touch it up every now and then.MIKE
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06-20-09 07:38 PM - Post#1720561
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I used Minwax Indoor/Outdoor Helmsman Spar Urethane and it didn't hold up. It looked great until the engine builder left the truck outside for 3 months last spring in snow and rain. The urethane cracked and is pealing along the edges. Bummer; I hadn't planned to have to re-do things this quickly.
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59 Fleetside
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07-05-09 05:11 PM - Post#1729674
In response to Jerry Acheson
The wood looks good in your bed. It looks like you did a good job.
Something that a few people have done is put Automotive clearcoat on the wood. A co-worker of mine has done it. According to him, he stained the wood then sprayed the clear and it was as shinny as the paint.
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Jim Karras
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08-21-09 09:59 PM - Post#1758300
In response to 59 Fleetside
We used auto clearcoat on my bedwood and it looked awesome for the first year. After that, it broke down. I am going to have to replace the wood and start over. This time I am going back to a stock look and plan on paintng hard Yellow Pine wood with black paint and covering it with a Marine Spar finish.
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cheeseman252
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11-02-09 08:22 PM - Post#1798699
In response to Jim Karras
I have been a cabinetmaker for 30 years and for all of my exterior projects I take a cue from from boatbuilders. One coat of epoxy sealer, top and bottom and then 7 coats of Epiphanes Marine Finish sanded between each coat. Marine finish has a UV inhibiter which will protect it from the sun. Also certain woods behave better outdoors than others, Mahogany/ Teak would be my choice its dense and hard and does not rot, as will Oak or Pine. If the truck bed never leaves the garage those other finish's will probably be fine I can't afford callbacks so I only use the best.
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11-03-09 03:29 PM - Post#1799072
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If you go to stock and paint it black just use a good enamel with no top coat
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Jim Karras
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11-13-09 11:58 PM - Post#1805467
In response to Gene_Schneider
Gene,
Thanks for the tip. That is a project I plan on doing this spring, so that is good to know.
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