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Username Post: 96 Silverado door won't open        (Topic#207833)
hollywood72 
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01-20-09 12:10 PM - Post#1611707    

The door won't open from in or out. Any suggestions as how to tackle this?

 
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01-20-09 12:16 PM - Post#1611711    
    In response to hollywood72

You might have to brake the outside handle off and go at it from there to start, it's hard to get inside there if you can't open it period because you have to pull the whole panel off to get access to the guts.
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01-20-09 12:44 PM - Post#1611731    
    In response to hollywood72

Did this symptom happen at the same time?
That would be odd if it did.
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01-20-09 01:25 PM - Post#1611762    
    In response to hollywood72

I know this may sound stupid but make sure the door in question is not locked. Like Phazer said, it would be 1 in a million chance that it would break on both sides.

Pop the cover off on the inside door handle by the lock to see if the rod is moving/can be moved up and down to verify it is actually the handles and not just a weak door lock motor/acuator on that door, stuck in the middle where it looks unlocked but actually isn't.

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CDAUSA 
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01-20-09 01:26 PM - Post#1611764    
    In response to BadAssDonzi

Is what I was thinking, but wasn't going to say it

 
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01-20-09 01:54 PM - Post#1611782    
    In response to CDAUSA

Right; try unlocking it from all possible methods. Inside lever, outside key hole, and power locks. Sometimes the rod can straighten out just enough that it won't unlock fully - usually the rod for the inside lever/power lock.

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SuperSport 
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01-20-09 04:58 PM - Post#1611978    
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My 90 model locks the driver's door every 21 slams. Sooner if I leave the keys in it.

Right now it's stuck closed with the seatbelt tangled up in the jamb, and it refuses to unlock.

If I recall.. The lock rod came loose and let the lever fall to the lock position.

Now I have a question:
Does the door panel come off with the door closed?


Or did I accept defeat too soon when I cut the hole in the door panel? (hot melt glued it back in)

So, I'm going to fix it right the second time. Whatever it takes. Last time I just clipped the rod back in the hole.
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Edited by SuperSport on 01-20-09 05:04 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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01-20-09 05:14 PM - Post#1612000    
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  • SuperSport Said:
My 90 model locks the driver's door every 21 slams. ~



Did somebody die in it? Sounds like spooks Possessed!

I've thought about that when people were having issues with a door, if it would come or not. I do think you'd probably have to remove the seat, or at least move it over, but probably.


 
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01-20-09 07:31 PM - Post#1612159    
    In response to CDAUSA

Having the seat out of the way is pretty much required. I went through this recently on a regular cab with the newer interior; I'd imagine it might be a little harder with the 88-94 interior because the keepers are easier to mess up.

If you're really good with a slim jim, you might have better luck than pulling the door panel with the door closed. Just be careful not to scratch up your window too badly - it's very easy to scratch tempered glass. If you can hook the lock rod and pull it enough to unlock, you'd be set, then you could open the door and pull the panel for repairs.

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01-20-09 09:43 PM - Post#1612241    
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  • CDAUSA Said:
  • SuperSport Said:
My 90 model locks the driver's door every 21 slams. ~



Did somebody die in it? Sounds like spooks Possessed!

I've thought about that when people were having issues with a door, if it would come or not. I do think you'd probably have to remove the seat, or at least move it over, but probably.




Had a 70 Charger that would start cranking if you slammed the door. It was later determined 10 yrs. after I sold it, the car had actually hauled a body of early demise, no lie. (used cars )

May be someone did croak in it, it's an old company truck, so they coulda worked themselves to death, or crashed it. It definitely shows signs of a complete makeover before re-sale.

I remember, I started to take the seat out and something happened. Then came the hole cutting in the lower left corner area, then some upside down contortionist activity.

If it's like mine, a slim jim won't catch the lever on the latch box, and the rod is unhooked, so...

Am I a numby for cutting the hole? I swear I remember interference at the windshield pillar... Aww jeez, do I really want to do a 700r swap on this thing? (factory TH400)

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01-20-09 10:12 PM - Post#1612261    
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SuperSport 
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01-21-09 06:09 PM - Post#1612863    
    In response to CDAUSA

So the answer is, I'm a dumbass for cutting a hole in my door panel.

If that's true... In my defense, I'm sure I must have been in a helluva hurry, and seat bolts were seizing and ready to break.

Well at least I have easy access this time.
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01-21-09 06:37 PM - Post#1612895    
    In response to SuperSport

Just call it a future speaker hole.
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01-21-09 07:17 PM - Post#1612924    
    In response to SuperSport

Yeah, what Ken said, I'd also call it too difficult to lay over in the floorboard and get the bolts out, didn't have any help to move the seat without tearing something else up---------and any other thing that comes to mind in the next 30 seconds

 
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01-21-09 09:40 PM - Post#1613030    
    In response to CDAUSA

Durn Dremels make cutting things too easy.

And I really hate broken bolts, one seat bolt is still not seated, it's seized.

If I can't make the rod stay put, I'll run mig wire from the lock lever. Jackleg it! It's a beater!
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01-21-09 09:48 PM - Post#1613035    
    In response to SuperSport

I've got a parts truck here that has a driver's door with no door module - that is, no inner skin that holds the window regulator, inner handle, etc. and also has no door glass. What it DOES have, is some mechanic's wire holding the two interior rods, with instructions written in Sharpie pen on the white painted sheetmetal of the door: "Pull to unlock" "Pull to open" I kid you not!

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01-21-09 10:20 PM - Post#1613051    
    In response to someotherguy

Well, I was planning on hiding my wire if it comes to that. But if it's a new trend in customizing, I may consider it.

In the meantime, I'm cruising with the shoulder belt hung over my shoulder, for looks.

It's just too dang cold to do anything, and I'm 80 years old this week.
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01-22-09 11:09 AM - Post#1613295    
    In response to SuperSport

Was just in my truck, I swear if there's a way to take the door panel off with the door closed, I'm not seeing it. And I'm not normally put off when it comes to taking things apart.

Is the door/dash design that much different in 1990?

My door panel closes against the side of the dash, and the door panel, I believe to be one piece.

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01-22-09 11:19 AM - Post#1613303    
    In response to SuperSport

You can't completely remove it, but with the seat out of the way, you can peel it back enough to access the door latch. Of course it's near impossible to see what you're doing in there and hard to reach the latch itself because the rear window channel is in the way...if your lock rods are completely disconnected, both the inside and the key one, you may still be able to manipulate the latch to unlock it.

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SuperSport 
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01-22-09 12:10 PM - Post#1613335    
    In response to someotherguy

Pretty soon, I'll stop working from memory, and have a clear picture of it. But it seems I remember the lock button still connected, but with the key lock unhooked, it stays locked no matter what the button does.

Guess I'll open my little hatch and turn myself upside down.
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01-22-09 12:41 PM - Post#1613355    
    In response to SuperSport

The key and internal lever lock rods connect to separate places on the latch, so either one can be disconnected and the unlock function still work from the other. They hinge off the same pivot point in the latch, but aren't dependant on each other, if that makes sense.

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SuperSport 
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01-22-09 07:33 PM - Post#1613699    
    In response to someotherguy

Mine didn't work that way. The lock button has a bound-up feel to it. As I said, the lever on the latch box falls down when the lock rod comes out, and I think that binds the latch box, keeping the interior button from working.
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01-27-09 02:35 PM - Post#1617079    
    In response to SuperSport

i wouldve just rolled the window down and got a light and looked inside the door and got a stiff wire to see if i could get it to open.
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