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Loc: Hunt, TX
01-20-08 07:50 PM - Post#1347350
I hang out most of the time with the old Impala crowd. I have one for the truck guys though. It's a 97 k1500 that has 70k miles. I changed the pads about a year ago. I could not get a firm pedal like it used to be with the old pads. I even took the master off and bench blead it. I then took it to a local mechanic after that which he coud not fix. Last month I took it to a dealer. They replaced everything master, booster, and the new Napa pads that were on it. I'm still not getting a firm pedal like it used to be and this truck drags a 6k pound trailer behind it when it is usually driven. At least the trailer brakes are good. It's not near what it used to be and I get the excuse that the brakes are normal for this year from the dealer. I'm having heated discussions with the dealer right now after spending too much on this truck without it braking correctly. I bought it new, so I know how the brakes should feel. I've converted older cars over to disc brakes and done lots of brake work, but these newer ones have me going crazy. Especially after spending lots of money at the dealer and getting an excuse.
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Loc: Texas Panhandle
01-20-08 10:42 PM - Post#1347466
In response to Aggieranch
HMMMM? Best guess is unless the brake system was flushed and cleaned out at least yearly-----when you compressed the caliper piston back in (unless you loosened the hose) it broke some crud loose in the master, maybe damaged a piston cup.
From that point on, it just hasn't been bled completely yet. At times like these, it doesn't bother me a bit to use a gallon of brake fluid thru a brake bleeder-----and sometimes it takes that to finally get all the air out.
Just so you are comparing apples to apples, make sure the rear brakes are adjusted up tight. The rears were bled, correct?
GEEEESH, I wish mine only had 70K
01-21-08 07:05 AM - Post#1347586
In response to CDAUSA
Spencer, the reason the dealer is telling you it's "normal" is because spongy brakes are a very, very common complaint with our trucks. I don't agree with that it's "normal" though and I don't blame you for feeling the same way - it's a cop-out for anyone to just write it off because they can't figure it out.
I wish I had something more helpful than that to add, but at least I'll agree that you're not crazy; these trucks *can* have good brakes but something seems a little fragile about the system in that a lot of people end up with mushy brakes and not many "mechanics" - even at the dealership - seem to be able to figure out why.
Loc: near Austin,Tx
01-21-08 09:46 AM - Post#1347683
In response to someotherguy
as Richard has stated...something happens and rarely are the brakes ever fixed again.
I am not familiar with the 97 setup but my 88 went through the same bs, I finally resolved my problems by removing the rear abs module along with the combination valve. I am convinced that the combination valve was the culprit in my setup. I changed so many items that I ended up with a hydroboost+adj prop valve+ rear disk upgrade. The brakes are very responsive and I have no complaints any longer.
Loc: Cedar Springs, Michigan
01-21-08 09:50 AM - Post#1347688
In response to Aggieranch
I have had the same problem in the past with my 92, and 95 1500's and my 90 Suburban. I bled the brakes starting with the rears first. Why? I don't know, but I had a reason at the time. So, this is how I have done it since.. Firm pedal up on all three trucks after bleeding.
Richard is right saying it is a common complaint, but it should be fixable. CDAUSA could be right about loosening up some crud in the system. Most people only bleed the affected area in the system they worked on (guilty when rushed). The entire system needs to be bled. Oh, and then bled again. I only use a vac. bleeder to get me in the ballpark, the rest is done by pumping the pedal and cracking the bleeder screws, one by one.
I hate soggy pedal.