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Username Post: Picture of GM serpentine on Ramjet 350        (Topic#174484)
Daryla1933 
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11-11-07 04:27 PM - Post#1293724    

Hi, guys. I'm making progress on the rebuild. Thought you might like to see the GM serpentine system (affordable compared to a lot of the aftermarket ones, but not nearly as spiffy...) on my ramjet 350.

I had the aluminum brackets powder coated so they're not so obvious.



 
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acardon 
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11-11-07 05:39 PM - Post#1293767    
    In response to Daryla1933

That looks good. The powder coat makes it blend in. I'm also using a Ramjet but have been having a little trouble getting it to run right. I think I have it figered out now though.
Don
66 Corvair (driving)
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Daryla1933 
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11-11-07 06:18 PM - Post#1293801    
    In response to acardon

Thanks, Don. Yours looks good, too. Did you have any issues with the distributor and the firewall? Is it mounted in the stock location? What kind of problems are you having? What type of gas tank/fuel pump setup did you use?

How was that for 20 questions??

 
acardon 
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11-11-07 06:41 PM - Post#1293828    
    In response to Daryla1933

My engine is in the stock location and there is good clearance with the distributor. I should know, I've had it out 5 or 6 times. I have had a rough idle since I first started it. I finally figered it was an ignition miss and not a injector or sensor problem. After changeing the distributor and was going to change the coil I found that the boots on the GM performance wires were too long to allow the wire terminal to contact the distributor post.
I have an in-tank pump from Rock Valley.
I notice you have the valve covers off. I had a lifter making noise and found one real loose. I thought it was affecting the knock sensor.
Don
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Pistol 
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11-11-07 07:21 PM - Post#1293859    
    In response to Daryla1933

I think it looks pretty sweet
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Daryla1933 
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11-11-07 07:40 PM - Post#1293869    
    In response to acardon

That's good news about the fit - I set mine up with a bare frame and an engine block with front mounts. Then I built some side mounts. I'm hoping it fits well. Did you trim your boots to fit correctly? I went with a tank from Rick's. It fits great and looks pretty nice, too. I haven't got the fuel lines routed yet. What did you use for flexible lines from the fuel rails to the hard lines on the frame?

Pete, thanks for your comment!

Edited by Daryla1933 on 11-11-07 07:40 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
acardon 
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11-11-07 07:53 PM - Post#1293884    
    In response to Daryla1933

I used 6AN braided line for both supply and return. I used a 90 degree to 6AN in the rail. I had to cut about 1/4" off the boots to get the wire to snap down on the post. I'm curious to know if your wires are the same way?
I set my engine up the same way, used the stock front mounts to locate it.
And a question for you, does the book you got with your engine match the engine? The back part of the book I got (which says on the front cover is for a 350 Ramjet) has pictures of an LS type engine in the back part???
Don
66 Corvair (driving)
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56 2dr HT (waiting to be restored)


Edited by acardon on 11-11-07 07:58 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Daryla1933 
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11-11-07 07:58 PM - Post#1293891    
    In response to acardon

I'll check the wires and see how they fit. I imagine that mine will be exactly the same. Do you have pictures of install process?

 
Pilot20 
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11-11-07 08:03 PM - Post#1293896    
    In response to Daryla1933

I also think it looks good.
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acardon 
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11-11-07 08:06 PM - Post#1293899    
    In response to Daryla1933

Not any pictures of installing the wiring and the book wasn't much help on the routeing. If your book has pictures of the harness wire routeing, I need the part number. You can look through my picture trail. Link to Picture Trail.
Don
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wagonman100 
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11-12-07 05:14 AM - Post#1294096    
    In response to acardon

I have the same system on my El Camino. I got it used for $50 including the pump, but no compressor or alternator. I don't rum the smog pump or the GM dummy pulley for the pump either. Just a shorter belt and it works fine. Another nice thing is they have a dummy pulley for the A/C compressor location to if you don't run A/C.
Jay
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Daryla1933 
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11-12-07 06:23 AM - Post#1294124    
    In response to Pilot20

Thanks, Pilot.

Don - I checked out your pictures and they look good. You have a really nice car. I like the stainless hard lines you used for the AC.

Jay - How did you know which shorter belt to use?

 
JCHEVY 
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11-12-07 04:26 PM - Post#1294496    
    In response to Daryla1933

Is that The serpentine system GM Performance Parts sells? If not what is it from? It looks great with the brackets Powder coated. That was good thinking. The one GM performance parts sells comes with AC compressor, alternator, water pump etc, for well under a $1000. Way more cost effective then other brands. I've been thinking of using that set up also, but hadn't heard or seen any one using it.
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2Loose 
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11-12-07 08:24 PM - Post#1294678    
    In response to Daryla1933

That looks great! I get so tired of looking at all the dang bling blang these days, and I hadn't seen the GM setup, Nice Job !!!!
Willy

 
Daryla1933 
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11-12-07 08:24 PM - Post#1294679    
    In response to JCHEVY

I got mine from Summit - $765 complete. It came with everything including mounting hardware. I'm pretty happy with the finished product.





 
Gray Headed Mule 
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11-13-07 02:24 PM - Post#1295137    
    In response to acardon

  • acardon Said:




Don??????????? Did you mount your engine in the rear of your 57?????? Did you get confused and thought you were working on your Corvair?????
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acardon 
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11-13-07 02:57 PM - Post#1295149    
    In response to Gray Headed Mule

  • Quote:
How did you know which shorter belt to use?



Daryla1933, you can cut an old serpentine belt into and wrap it around the pulleys, then mark the length on the old belt. You can then buy one by length. I just did that with a V-belt to go around the alternator, because I didn't want to run the power steering pump for the test runs.
Mule, my car has been apart for so long, I forgot where everything goes.
Don
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56 2dr HT (waiting to be restored)


 
wagonman100 
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11-13-07 04:48 PM - Post#1295206    
    In response to acardon

Sorry Daryla1933 I didn't see your question earlier. Mine was actually listed by part number in the Jaguars That Run book on converting to EFI, But Don's method would work just as well. Just remember to have someone putting tension on the tensioner to replicate it having a belt on it. You can do it with twine as well. Wrap it around and mark where it meets itself and measure it.
Jay
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4dr 57 
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11-13-07 05:18 PM - Post#1295226    
    In response to Daryla1933

Oh Yea, that Looks Great!
Very Nice!

I'm not a big fan of hot air intakes though. Stalth Conversions/Jags That Run mentiond above may have something for this problem. They are good folks with quite a few conversion parts.JM2C

Stan
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Daryla1933 
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11-13-07 08:25 PM - Post#1295359    
    In response to 4dr 57

Thanks, everyone. That's good info about the shorter belt. Since the idler is already there I'll probably go ahead and use it, but options are always good.

Stan, you mentioned hot air intake. Will it improve my performance at all to find a plumbing method that moves the air cleaner to a different location? I've thought about doing something with a dual intake that come in through the side filler panels, but I'm nervous about having that "import" or rice burner look!

 
Daryla1933 
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11-13-07 08:27 PM - Post#1295363    
    In response to Daryla1933

Don,

Where did you install your air temp sensor (I think that's right) - I know that Street and Performance sells an air cleaner housing with a bung in it for that purpose, but the standard GM air cleaner doesn't have any provisions. Any thoughts?

 
acardon 
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11-13-07 08:37 PM - Post#1295372    
    In response to Daryla1933

I built a short tube out of 16 gauge sheet metal, the same size as the throttle body where the air cleaner goes. I drilled it and put the IAT in it. The air cleaner clamps to it and I used a sheet of rubber and a clamp to hold it to the throttle body. I plan to build a wide stainless clamp to clamp the air cleaner and the extension together. You can just see part of it in the above picture.
Don
66 Corvair (driving)
57 2dr HT (driving)
56 2dr HT (waiting to be restored)


 
Daryla1933 
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11-14-07 06:21 AM - Post#1295531    
    In response to acardon

Great idea on the IAT - I can just see it the picture.

 
todd77malibu 
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11-14-07 06:40 AM - Post#1295540    
    In response to Daryla1933

I have the exact same setup on my 77 Mlaibu classic. Seems to fit well and looks nice and clean.
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Edited by todd77malibu on 11-14-07 06:41 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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