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Username Post: 1946 Bread Truck Center Steering        (Topic#169900)
David Hayward 
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David Hayward
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09-25-07 07:48 AM - Post#1261029    
    In response to Grandmarhonda

My 1943 Branham's advises that they used 16.23, 18.91 hp engines. No indication as to source. Many of the 1941-2 Chevrolet - Divco deliveries were sent across the Atlantic paid for by well-wishers, for mobile canteen, food delivery and other relief work, although they were also used in the States as ambulances.
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Avatar: sole surviving 1939 Chevrolet truck assembled in Southampton, England


 
Royer 
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09-25-07 10:13 AM - Post#1261118    
    In response to Grandmarhonda

I did not find anything in the Krause Publications Light Truck reference that I was thinking of regarding any center-steering bread trucks around 1947. It is very possible that your truck could have been built on something like the series 3100 model FP 1/2-ton chassis (which is listed with the other '48 models). For the record, there was also a series EP 1/2-ton chassis listed for 1947.

I presume that your truck DOES have an engine in it. Of course, it is possible that it may well have been replaced over the years. But, you might be lucky - and we could at least nail down the correct model year from that. There is definitely a machined horizontal pad on the crankcase (right side of the engine) to the rear of the distributor or near the fuel pump. Clean this area off carefully - and please post whatever you find. We'll try and help you decode it.

Royer


 
Grandmarhonda 
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10-01-07 05:42 AM - Post#1265137    
    In response to Grandmarhonda

Royer We have gotten no where fast with identifying this truck of ours. To be honest with you our intent is to sell it but until I am totally sure of what it is I don't know what price to affix to it. Would you have any ideas for me? Rhonda

 
Royer 
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10-01-07 05:50 AM - Post#1265143    
    In response to Grandmarhonda

With Real Estate, the three most important factors in determining a sale price are location, location, and location. With an old vehicle, it is mostly condition, condition, and condition. But with a unique vehicle like this, you really also have to find someone who has a special interest in exactly this type of unit. In other words, someone who remembers them from when they were a kid, someone whose father drove one as a route vehicle years ago, or possibly someone who has a business where he/she could use it in advertising.

I really wouldn't want to venture a guess without knowing more. Also, the location of the truck can be a significant factor too.

Royer

 
Grandmarhonda 
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10-02-07 09:57 AM - Post#1266060    
    In response to Royer

Royer Here's the $60,000 question ( Did I just age myself?) where do I go to find more information? I am in Ct - halfway between NY and BOS. There is enormous interest here in older vehicles. But I am uncomfortable trying to affix a price to this truck without being confident about what it is. Any ideas? I have a feeling I am starting to whine. I hope I don't sound that way Rhonda

 
Royer 
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10-02-07 11:12 AM - Post#1266106    
    In response to Grandmarhonda

Unfortunately, or forunately (depending upon how you look at it), this truck is worth exactly what a motivated buyer is willing to pay for it - and which you are willing to sell it for!

That said, I think it's appropriate that I mention something else: you obviously have physical possesion of this truck to some extent. But I haven't heard you mention anything about having a title or registration for it (I know that New York didn't issue titles for vehicles before about 1974, but I mention "registration" since one half of that document served as the means by which ownership was conveyed in that state). If you DO have any such documents, how about posting the number(s) which appear on them so that we can try to see if they match up with anything that appears in published literature.

But I bring this up as anyone thinking about purchasing the unit will obviously be willing to pay quite a bit less if you can't formally prove that you have ownership (because it is always possible that someone else might subsequently be able to).

If I were you, I would first try to locate some documentation to prove ownership of the vehicle in your name. Then, if you desire to sell, place an add WITH A PHOTOGRAPH in Hemmings Motor News without stating an asking price - to see what kind of responses you get. You might also try e-bay, but I personally think this type of unit is one which requires a bit of a specialized interest. In other words, it's going to appeal to only a select few - but fortunately you need to find only one!

Royer

 
raycow 
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10-02-07 11:33 AM - Post#1266120    
    In response to Grandmarhonda

Rhonda, I think I understand where you are coming from.

Whenever I see an item on ebay that is obviously misdescribed, my first thought is, "That seller has no clue what he he's got there and probably doesn't even care. The only reason he bought it is so he could flip it."

That is why I strongly believe that whatever time and effort you can put into reseaching the background of this truck will be well worth it in the long run.

Ray
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Grandmarhonda 
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10-05-07 10:32 AM - Post#1268286    
    In response to raycow

Thank-you Royer and Ray for your answers. Right now we have plenty of room for the truck so I think I will let it sit until I can come up with more info. I am still hoping that someone will see the picture on this site and let me know what it is Rhonda ps Maybe we can make a game of it - "Identfy The Truck"

 
Royer 
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10-05-07 10:47 AM - Post#1268297    
    In response to Grandmarhonda

I still feel that it was of a type used as a Bread Delivery truck by Krug Bakery, Dugan's Bakery, or a competitor. If it's on a 1/2-Ton chassis (these would have six, rather than eight, nuts attaching each wheel), I would feel even more confident as these would be intended for carrying low-densith payloads.

Royer

 
Grandmarhonda 
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10-08-07 12:12 PM - Post#1269942    
    In response to Royer

Royer - I just ran out and looked and it does have only 6 lugs. I am still hoping that I can somehow find more information on this truck. Rhonda

Edited by Grandmarhonda on 10-08-07 12:12 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Grandmarhonda 
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10-13-07 02:48 PM - Post#1273365    
    In response to Grandmarhonda

Royer There is a picture of a Dugan Bread truck on Hankstruckpictures.com but ir is electric. There is alot of people who remember the Dugan bread trucks. I am still not giving up my hunt. Rhonda

 
Grandmarhonda 
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10-13-07 03:04 PM - Post#1273368    
    In response to Grandmarhonda

Royer Obviously Saturday night is no longer a big deal for me. I found a picture of a Helms Bakery truck at Davelindsay/SoCalCarCultu re.com that looks very similar. Rhonda

 
Royer 
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10-14-07 01:53 PM - Post#1273897    
    In response to Grandmarhonda

For the record, I'm pretty certain that Dugan's and Krug's (as well as other bakeries around the country) used several different kinds of trucks in their fleets. All I was saying, is that the truck you sent in a puicture of looks VERY similar to one of those I recall from the New York City area just after WW2. Your's could very well have had some other fleet history - but I think that it very likely was a bread delivery truck.

Royer

 
Grandmarhonda 
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10-16-07 05:00 PM - Post#1275494    
    In response to Royer

Royer Thanks for always answering me. I will keep up the hunt. It has become a game. Sooner or later I will figure it out. Rhonda

 
billschul_z 
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02-01-08 01:22 PM - Post#1356204    
    In response to Grandmarhonda

I was surfing for "Krug Bakery" and found Grandmarhonda's thread on the red center-control delivery truck. For whatever it's worth--

Krug Bakery delivered to my home in northeast NJ during the late '40 using that very design Chevy truck. I recall the sloped lower front panel and the center door. The breadman's tray fitted nicely on the large side-to-side shelf above the engine. However, the ones Krug had were LHD, not center-mounted controls.

Something like that would make a gangbusters camper today!

Oh, one other thing... Krug also gave out small, but fun, comic books about the adventures of "Peter Wheat," a cartoon character of great moral virtue and strength. I can't recall what he looked like or anything other than the name and the impression in my old (72) brain.





 
Royer 
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02-01-08 01:40 PM - Post#1356217    
    In response to billschul_z

I'm glad that someone else recalls this particular type of truck as being used by Krug! I definitely recalled the unique shape from when I was a kid (born 1944) in New York City. Just couldn't be sure if it was Krug's or Dugan's (the other major bakery that made home deliveries in the NYC area around that time).

Since Krug was apparently based in or near NYC, I'd expect that the body-builder involved was likely also located somewhere around NY - or at least on the East coast.

Royer

 
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