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Username Post: IGNITION SWITCH REMOVAL with a twist        (Topic#164921)
Bobaloo 
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07-17-07 06:52 PM - Post#1210777    

Okay here is a new angle:
I have a 63 Bel Air, it was bought with no key.
I cannot put the switch in the ACC position or past it for tumbler removal.
I have read some posts about how to get it out IF you have a key, but I can only move it from OFF to ON to START. Pushing a paper clip or even a small hex driver in the little hole does not turn it loose.
What do I do?
Bobaloo


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Jim_Becker68 
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07-17-07 07:26 PM - Post#1210811    
    In response to Bobaloo

One of two things.

1. Call a locksmith to come out and copy the lock and make a key.(This is the best description I could come up with)

2. Drill it out and put a new lock in its place - this is the easiest and most likely the CHEAPEST way.
Jim Becker

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Bobaloo 
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07-17-07 07:34 PM - Post#1210821    
    In response to Jim_Becker68

That was my plan, I have an entire new set of locks. I just wanted to replace the ignition with a locking switch - now that is runs and can be stolen much easier....
Bobaloo


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raycow 
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07-18-07 01:44 AM - Post#1210983    
    In response to Bobaloo

Unless you know your ignition lock cylinder is NOT original, pull the lock out of the glove box, trunk, or one of the doors, in that order. The lock will have a code number on it. Take that code to your friendly local locksmith and he/she will be able to make a key from it. This is no more work than you would have to do anyway if you were planning to replace all of the other locks. And if you get a key this way that fits them, you won't have to remove anything else.

Obviously, if you already have a key for the glove box, trunk, etc. and it DOESN'T work in the ignition switch, then it is time for Plan B. But before we talk about Plan B, did you get a new threaded retaining ring with the replacement ignition switch?

Ray
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C-Bass 
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07-20-07 04:59 PM - Post#1213080    
    In response to raycow

Perfect!!!

I was about to post the exact same question, but for my 64. Same deal, have no key, can't move into any position to poke the little hole.

I guess I'll try to drill it out, I have no locksmiths around here that are capable of this job.

Now say someone was to drill out the lock, is there any method to this madness?

 
C-Bass 
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07-20-07 05:02 PM - Post#1213086    
    In response to Bobaloo

  • Bobaloo Said:
That was my plan, I have an entire new set of locks. I just wanted to replace the ignition with a locking switch - now that is runs and can be stolen much easier....



Mind if I ask where you got your new locks from?

I bought some from cars inc. and I noticed the retaining clips (or whatever their proper name is) don't work with my car. They're too short. Luckily I saved the old ones. I have a 4 door btw, and I think this makes a difference...even though I asked the sales guy on the phone twice "this is a complete replacement for a 4 door 64?"

 
raycow 
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07-20-07 05:43 PM - Post#1213118    
    In response to C-Bass

  • C-Bass Said:
I guess I'll try to drill it out, I have no locksmiths around here that are capable of this job.

Now say someone was to drill out the lock, is there any method to this madness?


If all you want to do is remove the switch, save the drilling as a last resort.

First, see if you can pry the front face off of the lock cylinder. If you can do that, you will be able to unscrew the retaining ring that holds the switch in the dash.

Ray
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C-Bass 
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07-20-07 07:04 PM - Post#1213171    
    In response to raycow

  • raycow Said:
  • C-Bass Said:
I guess I'll try to drill it out, I have no locksmiths around here that are capable of this job.

Now say someone was to drill out the lock, is there any method to this madness?


If all you want to do is remove the switch, save the drilling as a last resort.

First, see if you can pry the front face off of the lock cylinder. If you can do that, you will be able to unscrew the retaining ring that holds the switch in the dash.

Ray





Ok I managed to get the whole assembly free by unscrewing the chrome ring in the dash bezel.

I broke a little off the cylinder so I could push the pin, pushing the pin still won't let me remove the cylinder. What am I doing wrong?

 
raycow 
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07-20-07 11:17 PM - Post#1213282    
    In response to C-Bass

  • C-Bass Said:
I broke a little off the cylinder so I could push the pin, pushing the pin still won't let me remove the cylinder. What am I doing wrong?


You aren't doing anything wrong. You still need to be able to TURN the cylinder so you can get it out. And you can't turn the cylinder unless you have the correct key in it.

If you want to save the switch, take it to a locksmith and he/she will be able to get the cylinder out without damaging the switch housing. I know you keep expressing a lack of confidence in your local locksmiths, but this is a job any locksmith should be able to do, or else he wouldn't be competent enough to remain in business.

Ray


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skipperman 
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07-21-07 04:13 PM - Post#1213615    
    In response to raycow

oops... started a new thread by accident....NEW KEY ...check it out .....

....... jersey Skip

 
Dave_Neiling 
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02-09-10 05:33 PM - Post#1859408    
    In response to james123

need to turn key to acc. push wire in hole depress the spring loaded release and turn the key towards start and wala out it comes

 
63fourdoor 
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02-09-10 07:26 PM - Post#1859527    
    In response to Dave_Neiling

Had similar problem last year. No ignition key at all and even my door lock key would stick and only work right now and then.
I brought driver door lock to locksmith, he made key off the code on the door lock and not only did my door locks operate properly with the new key but it also fit the ignition and I was able to turn to acc, push wire in hole and pull it out, and easily replace it with new one, which was my goal since the old ignition was beat up and twisted a little. Replaced the bezel ring also which I ruined trying to force things before I figured this out. The locksmith charged me $15. for 2 keys. He looked up the code in a GM book he had and made the keys in just a few minutes.

 
Lynn63 
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02-09-10 09:17 PM - Post#1859661    
    In response to 63fourdoor

A local locksmith did the same for my trunk key. He looked the code up on line and made a key and it even works in the doors the way it's supposed to. :-)
Lynn63
63 Impala SS
07 Silverado DMax Classic
99 Venture van


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dcairns 
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09-19-11 11:47 AM - Post#2138682    
    In response to C-Bass

  • C-Bass Said:

I bought some from cars inc. and I noticed the retaining clips (or whatever their proper name is) don't work with my car. They're too short. Luckily I saved the old ones. I have a 4 door btw, and I think this makes a difference...even though I asked the sales guy on the phone twice "this is a complete replacement for a 4 door 64?"


You will find this to be the case with a lot of 4 door specific parts. Either they are not made or 2 door parts are incorrectly labeled as working for "all" or "2 and 4 door" when in fact they do not. So take things apart with caution, as you may need the old part.
- Dave
1964 Impala 4-door sedan

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