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Username Post: The Dead Horse: V8 Swapping        (Topic#149142)
ralph47 
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02-03-09 06:33 AM - Post#1621648    
    In response to gorilla1

hey guys..for those that have done the SBC in a 54, how much of the firewall fins did you cut..or leave? i have seen some completely gone..others with the upper part still there...pictures are good too...thanks..ralph

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Bob_Hayden 
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02-04-09 05:05 AM - Post#1622314    
    In response to ralph47

You can look at my pics and see how much I cut off of mine. I am in the process of pulling the engine to smooth the firewall. Wish I had removed all of them when I built the car to begin with. LOL

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ralph47 
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02-04-09 05:41 AM - Post#1622327    
    In response to Bob_Hayden

Bob..thanks again...always a help..as i look at your pictures..a couple of more questions pop up..OT of course..sorry all..first..i see 2 different ways you ran a/c and htr hoses..outside fender well and inside..whey the changes? 2nd, who did your interior and door pads? whose a/c did you use..trying to find interior pics of it..lastly...i am trying to find the stainless/chrome trim on your door pads..was that replacement? thanks again..sorry for the OT posts...
Ralph

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Bob_Hayden 
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02-04-09 08:50 PM - Post#1622946    
    In response to ralph47

ralph47, Email me those questions and I will be glad to answer them for you. Not sure what you are asking.

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ralph47 
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02-05-09 06:43 AM - Post#1623076    
    In response to Bob_Hayden

will do Bob

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bonestheripper 
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09-28-09 02:57 PM - Post#1779828    
    In response to ralph47

Hey fellas,

Have a couple questions and hopefully you guys can help.

i have a 1950 chevy deluxe that i'm swapping to V8. I'm using a 350 SBC with a 700R4 trans behind it.

Question 1: i am able to get either a 68-74 Nova 10 bolt rear or a 64-67 Chevy II 10 bolt rear. Would either of these be useful for my application? i'm expecting to modify the perches if use one of these.

Question 2: for motor mounts, does it make a dramatic difference on whether weld-in mounts or bolt-in mounts are used?

thanks guys. sorry if you've answered these before.

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TPost 
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09-28-09 04:13 PM - Post#1779882    
    In response to bonestheripper


1. The stock rear end is 60" hub to hub. Measure the ones you have and go from there.

2. Either bolt in or weld in will work. I went with the bolt in ones from Chassis Engineering.

Todd

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bonestheripper 
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09-28-09 08:57 PM - Post#1780033    
    In response to TPost

the 68-74 rear is approximately 60 1/4" drum face to drum face. the 64-67 rear is approximately 57 3/4" drum face to drum face. is it safe to assume that the spring perches for the 64-67 rear will line up to the spring perches on the 50 chevy?

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bonestheripper 
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09-29-09 03:00 PM - Post#1780360    
    In response to bonestheripper

correction: 68-72 Nova/Camaro 10 bolt rear. 60 1/4" drum face to drum face.

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dgasfleetline 
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02-23-10 08:43 AM - Post#1867933    
    In response to bonestheripper

Oops, I originally posted this in the parts and tips section... my bad!

Hey 'Cheese,
It's RileyRacing from that other board...
I wanted to tell ya Tardel has mounts that bolt to the front of the block and use biscuits- like an early Ford. That's another somewhat easy option similar to the Hurst style mount, but smaller.

Thanks!
JK



 
56sedandelivery 
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03-13-10 01:28 PM - Post#1879430    
    In response to bonestheripper

From experience; save yourself the headache, and breaking drill bits, and just weld them in. It does'nt take but a couple of short, strategically placed beads, to weld them in. My Sears Craftsman Buzz Box arc welder, I've had for 35 years, did the job just fine.Butch/56sedandelivery.




Edited by 56sedandelivery on 03-13-10 01:29 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
bart savage 
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05-26-10 01:05 PM - Post#1921041    
    In response to 56sedandelivery

ok....did the swap....now i need a speedo cable from the stock gauge to the th350....
what can i use???



 
19IMnuts53 
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05-26-10 02:39 PM - Post#1921080    
    In response to bart savage

Bart
you should be able to use the stock cable. I did on my 53 business coupe and on my 49 sedan delivery.

no such word as "Can't" you either don't want to or are to lazy.


 
Bob_Hayden 
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05-27-10 04:52 AM - Post#1921328    
    In response to 19IMnuts53

I did on my 54 also.

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bonestheripper 
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05-27-10 01:24 PM - Post#1921509    
    In response to Bob_Hayden

does the same apply for a 700R4?

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Mike JW 
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05-27-10 04:13 PM - Post#1921580    
    In response to bonestheripper

Yes, I used the stock cable on my 700R4. Mike



 
arnieg141 
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05-28-10 01:06 AM - Post#1921756    
    In response to Mike JW

if the stock one is a little short .order one from a same yr. pick up there sold 4 to 6 inch longer than car..chevy of 40's or filling station

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05-28-10 03:52 AM - Post#1921782    
    In response to bonestheripper

No, and the 64=67 rear is way too short for the 50 chevy, and therefore the spring perches just don't matter. The later nova rear is almost exactly the same width as the original. The perches from a second gen camaro do, however, line up with the springs on the 50. The axle width will work, and it will only need minor modifications (redrilling for the alignment pin)

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darkrider2 
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08-29-10 02:56 PM - Post#1968507    
    In response to 53belair

This is a link I found pretty useful. It's for a SBC and auto swap with great pictures.

http://www.rodandcustommagazine.com/techarticles/0...



Edited by darkrider2 on 08-29-10 02:56 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Fiddy3-210 
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12-30-10 08:45 AM - Post#2024436    
    In response to darkrider2

A lot of GREAT info here! I'm getting ready to swap mine out as well. Got a moderately built 350, 4-sp Saginaw and a 10-Bolt GM out of a 68 Camaro.

1953 Chevy 210 4 dr
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gearhead695456 
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04-17-11 06:48 PM - Post#2078135    
    In response to Fiddy3-210

Hey guys, great information here. I'm almost done swapping a v8 into my 1951 deluxe but the manifold on the driver side is giving me heck. The 80's truck log style exhaust would seem to be good choice however, one issue not discussed on any of the forums Ive read is using a pre '79 engine (in my case 305) with the oil dipstick on the driver side and the interference with the log style rear dump exhaust manifold. There is no room for the dipstick to go around the manifold even with a custom flexible dipstick. Im now on my forth set of exhaust manifolds with no luck. Here is what Ive tried so far: 80s truck log style, corvette rams horn, 69 and up SBC. Someone mentioned the 1956 chevy 265 manifold but the front dump causes interference with my engine mount. Any ideas? Thanks



 
Keith_Knox 
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04-17-11 07:09 PM - Post#2078150    
    In response to gearhead695456

There was just a topic on this subject. Hope it helps.
http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?ti...


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ChevyBro 
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07-19-11 04:52 AM - Post#2115639    
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Sounds like am impressive projects. Can we see some pictures?



 
Dillrod 
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11-20-11 10:48 AM - Post#2159988    
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Ok I've been looking throughout this forum for info on a V8 swap
I have finally got my hands on a nice 51 Yes it needs work but first on the project is installing a 64' 283 with a 350turbo or possible 700r4 if I can find one at a good price and rebuild it.

from what I have gathered if I find a late 70"s camaro I should be able to use the rearend with little modification and the front clip so I will have p/s p/b and V8 motor mounts and possible a/c parts if I wanna go that far.
I got a good lead on a 79 camaro sitting in a field it's a complete car so I will then have all parts I need.
Thanks for the info I new to site and really like everything I've seen on here



 
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11-20-11 02:05 PM - Post#2160063    
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Welcome to CT. Good luck with your project.
Lots of help here and we love pictures.
Also go to My ChevyTalk at the top of the forum and fill out your profile, so we know where you are from.

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Dillrod 
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11-20-11 02:37 PM - Post#2160070    
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Sure will thanks



 
Dillrod 
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11-21-11 02:49 PM - Post#2160431    
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What about an early 80 Malibu ? I found one for free with a runnig driving V6 auto I will have to do some measurements unless some on here already knows



 
boones 
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03-10-12 10:04 PM - Post#2201044    
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I have been doing alot of research on using factory style exhaust manifolds during the V8 swap (stock steering). I see some folks have been able to make them work and others have not. I think some of this comes down to what motor mounts are used, how far back the motor sets and how high.

I am using a set of Walton Fabrication motor and tranny mounts. great quality but not sure they allow the motor to sit back far enough or high enough. I talked with the owner and he said he has never used his mounts with a stock suspension. I am using exhaust manifolds from a mod 80s PU (which I have had several people on various boards tell me will work).



For me the steering pivot arm when turning to the left is hitting the down pipe.

2 questions. what motor mounts are people using and has anyone shorten the draglink (not sure if that is what it is called but red item in picture below). can this been shortened up (to limit the angle the pivot arms has to swing when turning full to one side.





Edited by boones on 03-10-12 10:06 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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03-11-12 11:52 AM - Post#2201225    
    In response to boones

How about if you cut a notch in the mount.



 
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03-12-12 05:38 PM - Post#2201736    
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  • Mike JW Said:
How about if you cut a notch in the mount.


I think he said the pitman arm hits the exhaust pipe, not the motor mount.
I used 90 Camaro manifolds and cut the downcomer off. i rotated it a little and leaned it back a little, welded it back on and everything works. It works better if you have a new manifold, welds better. A experienced cast iron welder can weld it for you.


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