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Username Post: Upper steering coupling - where to get, sizes?        (Topic#148796)
AussieJohn 
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Loc: Sydney, NSW, Australia
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01-13-07 10:53 PM - Post#1071028    

Hi - the upper steering coupling in my 1960 seems to be the cause of a steering noise I can hear inside the car when driving. Seems to be fairly 'sloppy' and can move it around and get a similar noise from within the engine compartment.

Does anyone know where to get these, what size/type I need, and how to replace it?

Thanks!

John


 
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English_Impala 
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Loc: Leicestershire, England
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01-14-07 07:42 AM - Post#1071142    
    In response to AussieJohn

John, if you find two, I'll have one! I've asked this question several times & it seems to be just about the only part that isn't reproduced. I stripped mine down & made the best of two poor couplings, but it still "knocks" when turning the wheel left & right. The play seems to be in the two square sliding bosses inside the coupling (the part where they fit onto the round pin). Unfortunately any noise from a steering joint will cause the car to fail our yearly inspection (MoT) so I've got to do something. Certain Jaguars had a sliding joint so I'm going to see if I can adapt one of those. If you haven't stripped your joint yet, the pictures below show how it is assembled:


Gary 60 Impala 4door sports sedan


 
AussieJohn 
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Loc: Sydney, NSW, Australia
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01-14-07 02:46 PM - Post#1071448    
    In response to English_Impala

Hey - I found this place online http://www.classicperform.com/6092chevtrk.htm

but not sure if it has what we/I want.

 
Jens 
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01-14-07 02:51 PM - Post#1071449    
    In response to AussieJohn

To get those couplers apart you have to remove the snap ring (arrow) and then seperate the dust cover from the front collar.
Be careful tapping. They are usually stuck in there pretty good. Use some good penetrating oil & let it soak first.



 
58IMPALACON 
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01-17-07 04:11 AM - Post#1073498    
    In response to AussieJohn

AussieJohn
Your problem may not be the joint Gary's pointing out, it could be the steering jacket bearings. In a couple of the pictures Gary has kindly provided there is a collar at the bottom of the jacket with 2 long angled grooves in it, the short fixing bolts are loosened off and the collar is rotated to take up free play in the jacket bearings. I would refer to the manual for the complete process, and.... should you find any of the balls from the bearings gone walkies you really need to rebuild the steering jacket

Gary
Your'e in the engineering game. Mic up the blocks and determine if the wear is on them or the yoke. I rotated my blocks to the unworn sides (4 sides only 2 were used originally) and got rid of my play, however if the wear is in the yoke find a company that does industrial hard choming. They can build up worn surfaces and grind back down to the sort of clearance it had when it left saginaw
regards
Paul
58 Impala Convertible. Rebuilt 327 and turbo 350. Air suspension. Dropped spindles.
Disc brakes. Continental kit - painted in Cay Coral. Runs like a top.












 
English_Impala 
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01-17-07 08:56 AM - Post#1073634    
    In response to 58IMPALACON

Paul, ironically I've been doing that this morning! To be honest the "play" in all of the parts is negligable (manufacturing clearances). I'm now wondering whether the play is in the lower bushing as you pointed out to AussieJohn, something else to check at the weekend!

If you're at the NSRA swap meet in March I'll stop by for a chat.
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Russ 
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01-19-07 10:18 AM - Post#1075216    
    In response to AussieJohn

John, would this part help?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISA PI.dll?Vi...

I recently rebuilt my manual steering column. I used NOS pieces that I had collected from eBay. It works like a dream now. The bearing thing on bottom of the steering column usual has a broken seal and looks kind of nasty.

Good luck.

Russ

 
59 Fan in Oz 
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01-19-07 10:39 AM - Post#1075225    
    In response to Russ

Just to be claer, Is this the part you used?
I bought one for my 59. I later found out that this is for a 59 Truck. I could not get the coupling apart to see if I could make it fit. Now seeing the photo's aove I will have to have another go.


 
English_Impala 
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01-22-07 01:24 AM - Post#1077049    
    In response to 59 Fan in Oz

Sorted mine!!!!! I had parts from three couplings & made one good one out of the lot. The largest amount of wear was in the 3/8" diameter pin that is pressed through the steering shaft. This had worn oval! I pressed it out with a ball joint seperator & fitted an unworn one & now have a play-free coupling.
Gary 60 Impala 4door sports sedan


 
59 Fan in Oz 
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01-03-08 03:45 AM - Post#1333527    
    In response to English_Impala

Finally got arount to installing the NOS coupling in my 59. After removing the old coupling and instalation of the new one I found there was still some play in the coupling.
I figured that the pin and the square bushes were worn. I remembered seeing a similar set up on an Australian designed and built GM car a 1975 HQ holden.
Went to the nearest wreckeres with the lower steering shaft and coupling and compared it the the HQ Holden. The set up was the same but there were some differences. The upper steering shaft had the splines and was wider in diameter while the lower one had the pin and square bushes. This allowed the sterring shaft to be removed from inside the car.
I removed the pin in the shaft and it was identical to the 59 one also the square bushes were the same but they did not have the small washes inside the bushes. Instead the was a clip that pushed the bushes apart.
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?&p=9 9...
Installed the new pin figured it was only 31 years old vs the 48 year old in the 59.
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&am p...
Put the clip in and reinstalled the coupling and steering shaft and there was no play in the coupling.
Done a search on the net and there is an Australian parts supplier called American Auto Parts (they sell mostly Parts for Australian manufactured cars) selling the square bushes and the clip
https://www.americanautos.com.au/cgi-bin/fccgi.exe...

Hope this helps

 
English_Impala 
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01-03-08 04:40 AM - Post#1333537    
    In response to 59 Fan in Oz

Thats interesting. I'll do a search to see what that Holden looks like & I'll see if there was a Vauxhall equivalent over here.
Gary 60 Impala 4door sports sedan


 
Alex Ross 
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01-03-08 12:01 PM - Post#1333856    
    In response to English_Impala

You won't have any luck with the Vauxhall search.

HQ Holdens were OZ designed although they were built in South Africa as Chevrolet Commando and some other name that I can't remember.

There may have been some carry over components from Opel Rekord around the same time.
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