5chev5
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11-22-05 02:26 PM - Post#821223
guys tell me what you think, i am looking at a 6 pack for my 55 327 SB, is this a nice item to use, will it bring the valve up on the car, or am i wasting my money, by the way it is a beauty of a piece, thx for all the help,,, will i get more horse power, right now i am dynoed in at 385
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-22-05 02:29 PM - Post#821224
In response to 5chev5
Go for it!! I like them!!
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-22-05 02:37 PM - Post#821225
In response to races14
looks very nice, are there lot of proplems with them, just a little shaky, because i never had a set up like this
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-22-05 02:53 PM - Post#821226
In response to 5chev5
Check it out here
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5chev5
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-22-05 03:04 PM - Post#821227
In response to races14
what are they worth , there are no prises
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-22-05 03:05 PM - Post#821228
In response to races14
Allen,
I didn't see any complete system prices on their website. What is their ballpark price for a small block 3 duece setup?
Mike
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-22-05 03:12 PM - Post#821229
In response to MikeB
They used to sell for $1,895 less air cleaners for the complete system. I noticed he said to call for prices now. It took almost 8 months to get my set up.
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SEWERAT
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-22-05 03:23 PM - Post#821230
In response to MikeB
I got mine about 2 months ago total was about $1000. That included the full stainless fuel block, lines, air filters and chrome air cleaners His stuff is awsome. I checked with Automotion several times when I was deciding and I got very little help. They were very short with me and I had to pry to get anything out of them. The guy at Vintage speed talked to me for over an hour. Going over everything down to the 3 or 4 different accelarator materials for different climates. All my carbs are matching number and correct. A new Offy manifold (I got mine with the intake oil fill tube) Super nice polished stainless fuel block and lines. And your choice of fuel rail setups. The Automotion setup was more than double the price somewhere over $2000 and he is 6 months out. Vintage was about 3 weeks. Every time I have a question I get much help. I have not run my system yet but I have no doubts. Vintage speed also has tons of accessories and ad-ons pictured on the site. I think they have like 20 different scoop styles. And he gives you credit to upgrade from the stock set up. You also get $50.00 per carb if you have 2G cores. I try not to rag on shops but call both of them and see who you like.
vintage speed
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-22-05 03:33 PM - Post#821231
In response to SEWERAT
Wish I would have found them a year ago!!
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drifter333
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-22-05 04:32 PM - Post#821232
In response to SEWERAT
Sewerat,
You must have reached automotiom @ a bad time. They have been very helpful and I have talked with the owner for over 30min @ a time. Anyway as my dad told me a long time ago that 3 deuces is one of the most hotrod setup you can run. I run a 3 deuce tunnel ram (see my picture trail below) and love them. Everyone has a sbc or bbc with a 4 barrel on a high rise. I like it becouse it is something you don't see every day plus I like the old school looks.
Just my two cents.
Drifter
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-22-05 06:09 PM - Post#821233
In response to races14
Hey Allen, things are looking better there - getting a bit done now. How's Linda doing?
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-22-05 06:42 PM - Post#821234
In response to 5chev5
I have had this setup for over 10 years. Been from Houston to Orlando and back. I found 3 good 2GC Rochesters at a swap meet and bought the parts to convert them to a 3 deuce setup
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-23-05 02:28 AM - Post#821235
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Nick - Not much better yet. Nurse was here and just decided to get on here. She is coming twice a day right now. Shoot you an e-mail soon.
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-23-05 03:41 AM - Post#821236
In response to drifter333
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Sewerat,
You must have reached automotiom @ a bad time. They have been very helpful and I have talked with the owner for over 30min @ a time. Anyway as my dad told me a long time ago that 3 deuces is one of the most hotrod setup you can run. I run a 3 deuce tunnel ram (see my picture trail below) and love them. Everyone has a sbc or bbc with a 4 barrel on a high rise. I like it becouse it is something you don't see every day plus I like the old school looks.
Just my two cents.
Drifter
I hope your right about Automotion and people can get quality service. The price is still almost double and without $5.00 air cleaners even thrown in. Also if you want to wait 6-8 months to pay double  I guess it might be ok  but I doubt it..
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Seon
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-23-05 04:06 AM - Post#821237
In response to drifter333
I installed one in the wifes '58 Impala daily driver.
My son like the looks so much, he bought the manifold from Summit, found three Rochester from a swap meet, thru kits in and made his own.
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89Corvette
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-23-05 07:46 AM - Post#821238
In response to Seon
This thread is VERY dangerous to the health of my wallet. I was thinking of a Barry Grant 3-2 setup for my 56, but seeing that Automotion setup and knowing I could get the carb bodies, air cleaners and valve covers in Nausau Blue to match the car makes me drool excessively.
I don't think I could survive waiting 8 months though.
I noticed that the Automotion site says their carbs don't have to be synched. Is this a big deal?
Mark on the glamorous Lake Michigan coast line
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-23-05 07:50 AM - Post#821239
In response to 89Corvette
I like the BG "Six Shooter" system as well, but for the price of a 3x2 setup, fuel injection seems like a better investment.
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carbking
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-23-05 08:07 AM - Post#821240
In response to
Dual quads look just as cool, and work MUCH better. The O.E. 2x4 units are pricey, but for the hot rods, a pair of Carter AFB number 9400 or 9410 are much less than the O.E. and run better; plus the Carter strip kit number 10-101 or 10-201 can be used for tuning purposes. Unfortunately, both 9400 and 9410 are obsolete, and are somewhat difficult to find.
Jon.
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-23-05 08:25 AM - Post#821241
In response to carbking
The BG "six shooter" is cool of course but Its also close to $3000 . As far as chosing between FI and a spendy Tri pwer set up. Well Some guys spend over a grand on a front engine pully set up. To me that is insane!! If you want three carbs get three carbs, if you want FI get FI. I gave up trying to justify price comparisons between compleetly different car parts. I have had to pay $700 for a piece of sheet metal for my 55. Then I only paid $300 for a rebuilt 350 tranny for my 36... To me there is a lot more involved in a Tranny than a hunk of steel. I don't see any way to compare how much this stuff costs.
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-23-05 08:28 AM - Post#821242
In response to carbking
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Dual quads look just as cool, and work MUCH better.
I recently found this pic of my '31 Chevy engine bay taken back in '69. Man what a set-up and I was getting about 10 mpg.
BTW I still have my '31 Chevy and hopefully get it back on the road ... one of these days  .
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-23-05 08:48 AM - Post#821243
In response to Seon
The Barry Grant six shooter is $2395.00 including the linkage, fuelrail, & air cleaner. Pricey, but IMO the best looking 3x2 set-up out there. The nice thing is BT Overdrive now has a TV kit for it if you happen to have an overdrive trans in your ride. I'm debating, presents for the kids or presents for the car  
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-23-05 08:54 AM - Post#821244
In response to cnbell
MERRY CHRISTMAS CAR!. I thought he had a higher end kit that was over the $3000 mark. Maybe not
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-23-05 09:16 AM - Post#821245
In response to 5chev5
Just sold my three deuces and intake for a 348/409 this week on E---.
Original Rochester carbs. $820.00
I think they are cool on any Street Rod.
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-23-05 10:16 AM - Post#821246
In response to carbking
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Dual quads look just as cool,
Jon.
In Poker three of a kind beats 2 pair.  You cant beat the sound of three duces at WOT...
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drifter333
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-23-05 10:43 AM - Post#821247
In response to carbking
Quote:
Dual quads look just as cool, and work MUCH better.
Carbking,
I wouldn't say dual quads work much better. A good 3 deuce set-up will run with just about any other carb. set-up. And the looks is in the eye of the beholder. I like the looks of the 3X2.
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-23-05 11:35 AM - Post#821248
In response to drifter333
While the 3-2's look cool, I'd have to go w/ carb King. A magazine did a comparison test on street driven hot rods & the 3-2's came in last. Top of the heap was 2 BG 4 bbls on a tunnel ram. It was surprising to see a tunnel ram being tuneable for street use (I did it for years!).
For all out go- no way will those 3-2's come close to 1 big toilet bowl 4 bbl mounted on a single plane.
It's all about what you want & what you are willing to pay.
The look is gonna cost ya though.
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carbking
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-23-05 12:16 PM - Post#821249
In response to SEWERAT
Sewerat - I like the analogy; but a truer analogy would be 3 of a kind against a full house. 3x2 works very well on a hot 6 cylinder. 2x2 or 4x2 or 2x4 works much better on an 8 cylinder. Not just my opinion. This has been proved time and again on the dyno, on the street, and at the track. The number of barrels should be an even divisor of the number of cylinders. The higher the RPM, the more noticable the difference. But 3x2 does look neat. I had a set on a 64 GTO.
Jon.
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-23-05 12:23 PM - Post#821250
In response to carbking
Carbking....great info. What 2 x 4 set up would you recommend for a 400 hp 383 with 9.5 to 1 compression ? It seems you would need fairly small carbs for a mild street engine, no ? 
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-23-05 01:49 PM - Post#821251
In response to cnbell
Cbell - several ways to go:
Offenhauser intake
Various carb possibilities (other individuals will suggest other combos)
(A) (2) Carter 9500s or 9510s (not sa carbs). These are 500 CFM with a Chevrolet fuel curve. Solid linkage (choke on both, idle on both, both carbs work simultaneously).
(B) Carter 4761s front, Carter 4758s rear. These are 500 CFM carbs with a Chevrolet fuel curve, but a little higher performance than (A). Use progessive linkage, choke (manual) on rear, idle on rear, front carb comes in at higher RPM (ala 409 factory unit).
(C) (2) Carter 4759s carbs (hotter still). These are 625 CFM carbs with Chevrolet fuel curve. Remove choke from front carb. Same linkage, etc. as (B).
All of these carbs have been discontined, so swap meets, specialists, etc. Sorry, I cannot recommend any current production units. Others probably will.
Jon.
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drifter333
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Re: 3 deuce set-up
11-23-05 02:36 PM - Post#821252
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Hot rod did a intake shoot out and the 3 deuce intake from automotion came in on top along with 2X4 tunnel ram (summit combo). The three deuce out performed 2X4 hi rise & the more $$ bg demon with I cant remember what intake. You guys are going to make me dig in my garage for the mag. It all depends on how it is set-up.
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