Big_Paul
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06-16-05 08:48 PM - Post#720812
I've got plenty of oil left, and i'd hate to have to buy a new kit.
I've heard that 409 would be a good substitute for the K&N cleaner, or it's basically the same stuff that K&N puts in their bottles?
I have some Greased Lightning, plenty of it, would that work?
Thanks.
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slimlynn1
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Re: All out of K&N filter cleaner, a substitute?
06-17-05 03:07 AM - Post#720813
In response to Big_Paul
Anything that will cut oil and grease should work.
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SuperSport
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Re: All out of K&N filter cleaner, a substitute?
06-17-05 03:09 AM - Post#720814
In response to Big_Paul
Yep, 409, degreaser, even hot water and dishwashing liquid. 
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hotwheels57
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Re: All out of K&N filter cleaner, a substitute?
06-17-05 06:52 AM - Post#720815
In response to Big_Paul
I think K&N plans for us using more of the cleaner than the oil...I use SIMPLE GREEN and it works fine, but I clean my filters out at 5,000-7,500 miles before they really get dirty.
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Mike
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Re: All out of K&N filter cleaner, a substitute?
06-17-05 08:35 AM - Post#720816
In response to Big_Paul
I'm using Castrol Super Clean.
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Re: All out of K&N filter cleaner, a substitute?
06-17-05 09:13 AM - Post#720817
In response to Mike
Paul
That trick pink oil that they sell you is plain old 10 weight with a red dye in it 
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Ts57
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Re: All out of K&N filter cleaner, a substitute?
06-17-05 09:57 AM - Post#720818
In response to Thadd
Will transmission fluid work as well?
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Mike
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Re: All out of K&N filter cleaner, a substitute?
06-17-05 10:08 AM - Post#720819
In response to Thadd
Thadd ,where did you get the 10w oil info from?
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SuperSport
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Re: All out of K&N filter cleaner, a substitute?
06-17-05 10:32 AM - Post#720820
In response to Mike
I know the filter oil I use is alot stickier than any motor oil, or any oil for that matter.
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Mike
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Re: All out of K&N filter cleaner, a substitute?
06-17-05 10:38 AM - Post#720821
In response to SuperSport
In the spray can version , it needs to be or it would just run off.
The bottled version isn't that sticky.
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Lee M.
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Re: All out of K&N filter cleaner, a substitute?
06-17-05 11:49 PM - Post#720822
In response to Mike
diesel would work real good for cleaning.
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Big_Paul
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Re: All out of K&N filter cleaner, a substitute?
06-18-05 02:00 AM - Post#720823
In response to Lee M.
I might just try some Greased Lightning, I really like the stuff, it works great for everything i've used it to clean.
I would just try some Dove and warm water in the sink, but my mom would have one hellova fit. 
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Re: All out of K&N filter cleaner, a substitute?
06-18-05 02:40 AM - Post#720824
In response to Big_Paul
Quote:
I would just try some Dove and warm water in the sink, but my mom would have one hellova fit.
You should have been around in 1964 when my buddy got the brillant idea of "pre heating" 6 quarts of Pennzoil for a new motor startup in his mother's oven on a cookie sheet, too bad he didn't think about the cans bursting in the hot oven. Fire trucks were called, lower level needed new carpets and paint, upper level ONLY needed carpets and walls cleaned. 
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Re: All out of K&N filter cleaner, a substitute?
06-18-05 03:18 AM - Post#720825
In response to Big_Paul
I don't have one of those filters. Heck, my car wont even run but I would just like to add this...
I raced Moto-X for a number of years in very dusty conditions. I used to wash my air filter in gasoline (hey, it was the 70's) but a good solvent like NAPTHA would be great to clean all the oil out. You would be surprised how much more dirt will come out if you follow the solvent wash with a warm water detergent wash like liquid dish washing soap.
The theory is that dirt is soluable in water only. The petroleum solvent will carry away the dirt trapped in the filter oil but not the dirt trapped in the filter. Clean the filter in solvent as clean as you can get it. Dry it completely. Wash it in a 5 gal warm water & detergent bucket and see how much more dirt is in the bottom when you pour it out.
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Re: All out of K&N filter cleaner, a substitute?
06-18-05 04:00 AM - Post#720826
In response to Ts57
Quote:
Will transmission fluid work as well?
i used that on my daily driver filter. i don't know how well its holding up though, havn't looked at it since. i gotta check it out.
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Re: All out of K&N filter cleaner, a substitute?
06-18-05 08:28 AM - Post#720827
In response to Mike
Mike...
I used to be a dealer for K&N, and their sales guy told me that after he went to work for someone else
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hotwheels57
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Re: All out of K&N filter cleaner, a substitute?
06-18-05 08:47 AM - Post#720828
In response to Thadd
...probably went to work for an oil company...
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Re: All out of K&N filter cleaner, a substitute?
06-18-05 10:47 AM - Post#720829
In response to hotwheels57
I've heard that ATF works fine. I've had K&N filters on my bike for about 15 years, I've used ATF whenever I clean them. The ATF comes out pretty easily with dishwashing soap and water. I've avoided harsh cleaners because I don't want to break down the gauze in the filters. The filters are still going strong.
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Re: All out of K&N filter cleaner, a substitute?
06-18-05 01:04 PM - Post#720830
In response to Vaughn
Isn't that what ATF is anyway? 10 or 15W oil with some red dye in it, detergent packages, and whatever agents added to keep it from foaming?
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12-04-17 08:52 AM - Post#2716831
In response to Big_Paul
I soak my K&N filter in detergent and hot water, let it dry overnight, then put some Marvel Mystery oil in a spray bottle and lightly spray some in the filter.
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IgnitionMan
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12-04-17 04:33 PM - Post#2716883
In response to Big_Paul
K&N, founded by Ken & Norm. I've known those people for 40 years.
K&N filter cleaner IS Formula 409. A good alternate is a product you can get at Family Dollar and other stores, "L.A.'s Totally Awesome" cleaner. Wash off with hot water and soap.
The "oil" is Dexron type ATF.
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12-06-17 05:28 AM - Post#2717034
In response to IgnitionMan
Very interesting. I keep a stash of oil and cleaner handy. Good to know about alternatives.
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IgnitionMan
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12-06-17 05:43 PM - Post#2717110
In response to gchemist
Ken Johnson, Norm McDonald, Riverside Kawasaki, eons ago.
Smell the K&N cleaner, and then, the Formula 409, they used to smell identical.
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