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Username Post: Shop extension to finally begin...I hope        (Topic#272700)
jeffs55 
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11-27-11 12:00 PM - Post#2162304    

Amazing thing, fate. Or coincidence, or whatever you want to call it.
The carpenter I got to come out in the spring to do my shop extension never called me back.
All summer I debated with myself on who to call and what to do.
Well, as it happens, we went to look at a couple cars (see Test drove Malibu and Cruze post in Tip's Corner) and the young, energetic salesman (Kevin) does odd jobs on the side.
We asked him about doing this and he was interested. He would have his Dad, mainly, working on it (retired from construction work) and him helping when he could.
He'd said right off, that this was to help his Dad make some money.
So, we're giving them a shot.
It's a relatively simple job, so I'm hoping for the best.
Taking a chance, but I had a good feeling that Kevin is an up front, honest guy.
We'll see.
It has been raining all night and most of the day off and on, so it will have to dry out a bit before they can start.
The extension will be 10 X 16 or there abouts.
We just got some rough idea of the size so he can plan it out.
This will allow me to park the 55 on the north end of my shop and move the 32 into the "work" area. The 55 was just a couple feet too long to fit. I wanted to use the existing overhead door, so it has to go out at least 9ft.
A little extra room on the side will allow me to store my woodworking tools and/or steel racks or whatever and open up room in the shop area.
Jeff
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Maxbigblock 
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11-27-11 06:23 PM - Post#2162441    
    In response to jeffs55

Hope it turns out well. You will definitely enjoy the addition, because you can never have too much garage.
Max

I'm from the ONCE great city of Flint, Michigan. The birthplace of General Motors, where A C Spark Plug was formed and headquartered, where the first Corvettes were hand built, and where my 1955 Chevy was made.



 
jeffs55 
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Loc: Shelby Forest, Tennessee
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11-27-11 07:24 PM - Post#2162473    
    In response to Maxbigblock

I know that's right. I own 10 acres of land and I joke about wanting to build a 9 acre shop.
(only 9?)
The house needs a little space.
Jeff
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Maxbigblock 
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11-28-11 12:07 PM - Post#2162665    
    In response to jeffs55

The bigger the shop/garage the less yard there is to take care of.
Max

I'm from the ONCE great city of Flint, Michigan. The birthplace of General Motors, where A C Spark Plug was formed and headquartered, where the first Corvettes were hand built, and where my 1955 Chevy was made.



 
wagonman100 
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11-28-11 06:37 PM - Post#2162826    
    In response to Maxbigblock

That's why almost my whole back yard is concrete and garage.

Good luck with it Jeff. You can never have enough space. My garage is only 20 square feet smaller than the footprint of my house and it still isn't big enough.

I started with the structure to put a roof over my back porch and basement steps yesterday. I won't be able to get a roof on it this year, but the structure will be in place and it will only be a weekend project to finish it in the spring.
Jay
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints.

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MPandC 
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11-28-11 09:07 PM - Post#2162883    
    In response to jeffs55

  • jeffs55 Said:
The extension will be 10 X 16 or there abouts.




With the sheathing coming in 4' width, you may as well go 12 x 16..... well since we're going 12'..........
Robert


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wings59 
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11-28-11 09:07 PM - Post#2162884    
    In response to jeffs55

Congratulations on the shop extension...

You're gonna enjoy more space for sure.

Larry
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jeffs55 
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Age: 55
Loc: Shelby Forest, Tennessee
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11-29-11 03:22 PM - Post#2163180    
    In response to MPandC

  • MPandC Said:
  • jeffs55 Said:
The extension will be 10 X 16 or there abouts.




With the sheathing coming in 4' width, you may as well go 12 x 16..... well since we're going 12'..........



There is a space limitation because of a hill, but yeah.
With the 10' you would use 2 on a side and then split one.
The guy thinks the concrete alone may be 3 grand.
This is another one of those: "If I'd started it myself back in the spring, I'd be done by now..."
Jeff
55 Handyman
66 F100 project
32 3 Window Coupe project
1996 Silverado short bed extended cab
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MPandC 
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11-29-11 03:42 PM - Post#2163194    
    In response to jeffs55

A 10 x 16 pad is 3K? I had a quote last year of 5K to do a 12 x 52 apron...
Robert


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wings59 
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11-29-11 03:44 PM - Post#2163200    
    In response to jeffs55

Three grand for cement..WOW
He must be doing alot more than just the 10X16.

Larry
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jeffs55 
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jeffs55
Age: 55
Loc: Shelby Forest, Tennessee
Reg: 01-05-06
11-30-11 04:54 PM - Post#2163613    
    In response to wings59

I don't know where he got that.
I called today and got $530 delvered.
And that was the minimum 5 yard load. I calculated maybe 4 yds max and that's with a 6 inch thick slab with a 4 x 4 inch "curb".
I'm only planning a 4 inch slab.
I'll need to come up with some place, something to do with the extra yardage.
Walkway, apron, something.
Suggestions?

I called him today and one of the first things he asked me to do is price the concrete myself.
I told him I did and gave him the numbers.
He and his Dad are coming over tomorrow afternoon to "talk turkey" (left-over turkey?) on the project.
Jeff
55 Handyman
66 F100 project
32 3 Window Coupe project
1996 Silverado short bed extended cab
1948 Studebaker Champion
1977 Toyota Celica Coupe
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MPandC 
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11-30-11 06:14 PM - Post#2163639    
    In response to jeffs55

For the extra, I seem to remember a purple wagon locked down because of high water. Might not be enough for a full apron, but maybe a couple strips just the right width would get the wagon across the yard and to dry ground a bit easier.. Just don't drive off the edge!
Robert


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jeffs55 
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Age: 55
Loc: Shelby Forest, Tennessee
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12-01-11 04:28 PM - Post#2163907    
    In response to MPandC

Good idea Robert, but the whole idea behind the addition is to be able to park the 55 on the "other" end of the shop.
The building is 20 X 40 and I have a big door at each end.(because of the lay of the land)
The "other" end faces the road....and a driveway.
Easy access in and out.
That will also open up the "work area" for the 32.
After some more calculating and including footings (which I forgot about ), I may need all of that 5 yards.
Jeff
55 Handyman
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32 3 Window Coupe project
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jeffs55 
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Age: 55
Loc: Shelby Forest, Tennessee
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12-02-11 05:41 PM - Post#2164262    
    In response to jeffs55

The guys came out today and we talked.
I decided to go all the way.
Full width and height, out 12 ft.
It'll up the cost, but how can you put a price on the space I'll get?
My shop will be about the same size as the house after this.
Jeff
55 Handyman
66 F100 project
32 3 Window Coupe project
1996 Silverado short bed extended cab
1948 Studebaker Champion
1977 Toyota Celica Coupe
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HAL_396 
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Loc: Austin, TX
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12-03-11 03:34 AM - Post#2164371    
    In response to jeffs55

  • jeffs55 Said:
My shop will be about the same size as the house after this.



That is a sign of a craftsman.
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72novaproject 
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12-03-11 07:24 AM - Post#2164429    
    In response to HAL_396

  • HAL_396 Said:
  • jeffs55 Said:
My shop will be about the same size as the house after this.



That is a sign of a craftsman.




Shops should be bigger than houses. You don’t need room to park cars in houses! That’s what I tell my wife anyway.
To each problem exists a solution...now think.

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jeffs55 
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Age: 55
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12-03-11 07:41 AM - Post#2164436    
    In response to 72novaproject

It still will be crowded. Especially since I joined the AllMetalShapers forum and saw all the cool metal shaping toys I'd like to have.
A Pull-Max would be great. But takes up a LOT of room.
Jeff
55 Handyman
66 F100 project
32 3 Window Coupe project
1996 Silverado short bed extended cab
1948 Studebaker Champion
1977 Toyota Celica Coupe
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wagonman100 
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Loc: Baltimore, MD
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12-03-11 08:50 AM - Post#2164466    
    In response to jeffs55

The extra footage doesn't up the cost too much. Not compared to doing the project to start with. And it will be well worth the extra room.
Jay
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon


 
100 CHEVY 
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12-03-11 10:54 AM - Post#2164514    
    In response to wagonman100

Did you figure for an un-used area just to use for working on stuff?
Reason I ask is I'm always having to move cars in and out to get room to work on a different car.
Really gets tiresome!
Did you ever get done cleaning and organizing your shop?
Or,is that the reason for the expansion?
Mike.
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jeffs55 
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jeffs55
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Loc: Shelby Forest, Tennessee
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12-03-11 03:44 PM - Post#2164609    
    In response to 100 CHEVY

Jay, didn't you hurt your hand? How's it doing?
Yeah, Mike this was initially to be able to get the 55 in "that" end of the shop.
It's only 20' wide anyway and I'm doing the same as you. Move one out to get one in.
The new space (besides what the 55 will take up) will be for rearranging so I can hopefully have more working room.
As far as the shop cleaning...I got a start, then got off on other things.
Not to mention I will be cleaning up and find something to put away and it's like: "OK what do I do with this?"
I've tried organizing like Lowe's or someplace.
Plumbing supplies
Lumber
Tools-mechanic
Tools-woodworking
Electrical supplies
General hardware
Auto Parts
Paint/supplies
Machining supplies-drills, reamers, cutting tools etc.
And I still find something that I can't catogorize.
I tossed a LOT of junk, scrap metal, worn out parts etc.
Still, it's not done.
Guess I need to do the fill the barrel trick again.
"OHHHhh it's a useable thing, but I don't have a use for it right now......toss it...uhhhh OK."
Perhaps, just perhaps I can organize this space well and get rolling again on the rest.
Jeff
55 Handyman
66 F100 project
32 3 Window Coupe project
1996 Silverado short bed extended cab
1948 Studebaker Champion
1977 Toyota Celica Coupe
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wagonman100 
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12-06-11 07:48 PM - Post#2165810    
    In response to jeffs55

  • Quote:
Jay, didn't you hurt your hand? How's it doing?




Yep, two bones broken. I'm okay. Went to the docs today. They will be putting a plate on each bone hopefully Friday pending Workmans Comp approval.

As for the shop, you can never have too much room and as soon as you organize it, it starts to get unorganized. I sorted mine out back in October and it still looks like something from the show Hoarders.
Jay
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon


 
jeffs55 
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12-10-11 04:30 PM - Post#2167276    
    In response to wagonman100

Work has finally begun. They broke ground today.


They had a tough time of it digging by hand. While not frozen ground it was undisturbed soil with a layer of gravel on top. I used to park trucks there, so it's pretty solid.



The first pic really looks like it's a huge building.
And I guess to some it is. But it looks bigger than it really is.
Jeff
55 Handyman
66 F100 project
32 3 Window Coupe project
1996 Silverado short bed extended cab
1948 Studebaker Champion
1977 Toyota Celica Coupe
My Pics


 
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12-11-11 07:27 AM - Post#2167448    
    In response to jeffs55

I finally get to start my expansion soon, too. When I moved here, I had a 30'X 48' garage built but it's full. Now I need one just to store cars that are finished. We're going to put a 30'X50' next to the other one. This will also have my paint booth. I've been painting outside for the past 4 years.

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12-11-11 05:44 PM - Post#2167665    
    In response to too many chevys

The guys got here this morning and I went out to see how they were doing.
They had to remove about 4-6 inches across the section inside the footings and the ground was so compacted with clay and gravel their shovels were just bouncing off.
I thought about my monster self propelled rotor tiler and got it out.
Luckily, it fired up pretty easily even after sitting for a couple years.
It was a job even with that, but it broke up the surface about an inch at a time. Then I'd sit back and let them shovel the loose off.
Then I'd fire up the dirt monster and go over it again.
I didn't mind helping. I just couldn't sit back and let them chip away with shovels when I had a machine that could make it easier and faster.
And no, I didn't take pay away from them. They earned it, even so.
Besides, I did save a bit by them not having so many hours at it.
They'd have been going until dark and maybe not get far enough along.
As it was, they were able to get the rebar in place and leave early.
They didn't have the boards for forms, so they'll do that in the morning and call the truck.
No pics today, still looks pretty much as before, just a bigger pile of dirt around the sides.
Jeff
55 Handyman
66 F100 project
32 3 Window Coupe project
1996 Silverado short bed extended cab
1948 Studebaker Champion
1977 Toyota Celica Coupe
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Matt 
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12-11-11 09:38 PM - Post#2167772    
    In response to jeffs55

I'm surprised they are not using machinery to do a job like that. Having a machine will pay for itself so fast.


 
jeffs55 
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12-14-11 03:11 PM - Post#2168795    
    In response to Matt

Finally got the slab poured today!
It's all covered up right now so no pics yet.
Depending on the rain, they'll get back out Friday or this weekend and start the framing.
Jeff
55 Handyman
66 F100 project
32 3 Window Coupe project
1996 Silverado short bed extended cab
1948 Studebaker Champion
1977 Toyota Celica Coupe
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jeffs55 
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12-17-11 06:11 PM - Post#2169838    
    In response to jeffs55

OK! It finally stopped raining for a couple days.
The guys got out this morning and really went at it.


Rafters and decking tomorrow, maybe roof as well.
We'll see how things go.
Jeff
55 Handyman
66 F100 project
32 3 Window Coupe project
1996 Silverado short bed extended cab
1948 Studebaker Champion
1977 Toyota Celica Coupe
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Matt 
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12-18-11 07:06 AM - Post#2169938    
    In response to jeffs55

whats with all of the lines marked on the plywood?



 
MPandC 
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12-18-11 08:23 AM - Post#2169955    
    In response to Matt

pre-marked for where the trusses/wall studs should be.

Looking good Jeff. That's about par for the course during construction, knee deep in mud. btdt
Robert


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wagonman100 
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12-18-11 10:03 AM - Post#2169991    
    In response to MPandC

Yep, that's how it was when my garage went up. I was on the schedule for a month prior and they removed took me off. It was dry at that time and right up until the week they rescheduled me for. Then it poured the beginning of the week. Of course the days they were doing the actual construction it idn't even threaten rain, but the ground was already a bog by then.
Jay
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon


 
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