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Username Post: eyebrow/spear fix        (Topic#277577)
arnolddyer 
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arnolddyer
Reg: 03-22-11
03-07-12 08:54 AM - Post#2199536    

Thought i'd post this in the Nomad section also.


  • arnolddyer Said:
Okay, finally got the adhesive in. Check all the info I could. Here is what I found out. All adhesives are not created equal.I love J B Weld,but, it has a shear strength of 1600 lbs.max. Now there are different types of 3M adhesives. The 8115 is a Body Panel Adhesive that has a shear strength up to 4000 lbs. ,that once it sets it will rip the metal apart before separating. I found it for $35 free ship.Paint suppliers wanted about $60.
I made a double plunger to dispense equally.(also pictured).I ground the backside of the eyebrow/spear and the newly formed metal piece that I previously welded a stud to.Next I mixed up the 8115 and applied it to the backside of the formed metal and stuck it to the magic marker outline to assure proper placement.It claims to remain workable up to 90 mins.,butI didn't want to push it.It will cure in 24 hrs. @ 73 degrees,sooner if you add heat. I elected to let it cure slowly.Always heard that gives it the most strength. After it dried it was sturdy as can be. I have about a 7 sq. in. plate the adhesive is stuck to.The stud is welded to the plate---IT AIN'T GOING NOWHERE! Very happy with this fix.Just wanted to share with some of you that are in the same boat as me,that these eyebrow/spears aren't cheap.One of the highest price and hardest to find part of the Nomads trim.















 
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arnolddyer 
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03-07-12 09:11 AM - Post#2199545    
    In response to arnolddyer

  • arnolddyer;811092 Said:
Heres what the eyebrow fitting looks like now.There used to be an 1/2" gap where the eyebrow meets the spear.now it is flush and fits like it should. Happy Happy Joy Joy!






 
nomadstar 
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03-07-12 03:22 PM - Post#2199661    
    In response to arnolddyer

great info arnold. never knew 3m had anything that strong. i payed good money to have new studs welded on. next time im going this route. always thankful for new solutions. some people just want to keep it a secret.....

 
Monahan522 
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03-07-12 07:56 PM - Post#2199811    
    In response to arnolddyer

Great info Arnold. So far, this looks to be the best "repair" I have seen. I will definitely give this a try.

Thanks,

Pat

 
Nomad Jack 
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03-08-12 05:42 AM - Post#2199894    
    In response to arnolddyer

Great repair arnolddyer, I had used the JB Weld when trying to repair mine and it failed. Not sure if this is the same adhesive, but Eastwood sells a Panel Adhesive for $20 and it comes with a mixing applicator. I have used it on a couple body panel projects with success. http://www.eastwood.com/no-weld-panel-adhesiv e-rep...
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arnolddyer 
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03-08-12 10:04 AM - Post#2199989    
    In response to Nomad Jack

I don't know if Eastwood's is the same, but, even 3M has different adhesives that have a drastic differences in strength.I looked up the specs on the 3M adhesives and found the 8115 body panel adhesive was the strongest with up to 4000 LBS. shear strength. When applied to a piece a metal, about 7 sq.in.,with a 1/4-20 stud welded to it,IT IS ON THERE. Make sure ,before applying ,tape the plate on your trim and check for clearance.Remember,you do not have to gob it on. I found the adhesive on Ebay for $35 free shipping.
Good luck.

 
arnolddyer 
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03-08-12 10:10 AM - Post#2199991    
    In response to nomadstar

Some people do seem to not want to share secrets and that's too bad.But, I like to think they are few.Most of the guys out there are pretty helpful.I really appreciate the help and advice
they have given me.

 
Rick_L 
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03-08-12 07:47 PM - Post#2200191    
    In response to arnolddyer

"Remember,you do not have to gob it on"

Better yet, you shouldn't. Adhesives like this one are going to work with a certain gap or bond line thickness. Too thin or too thick weakens it.

So I think one of the keys to using adhesive here is to shape the piece that you're bonding to fit as precisely as you can so that there's a uniform adhesive thickness everywhere.

And just because they say an adhesive has a certain bond strength doesn't mean that it will in every situation. You need to get the thickness right, follow the instructions, and pay attention to any cautions or warning in the adhesive specs.

Saying all this, I know nothing of the adhesive that arnold is using. What I do know is that we use a lot of adhesives in my work, and we test, test, test to determine whether the stuff really does what it says it will.

One more thing, this is the most sensible approach I've seen to this problem in a while.

 
arnolddyer 
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03-09-12 08:08 AM - Post#2200318    
    In response to Rick_L

Good point and thanks!

 
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