DavidDeLuxe
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 05-05-12 05:03 PM - Post#2222882
Hypothetical situation: Let's say that a good friend of mine was rebuilding a 58-62 235 he recently picked up. He is a fairly good guy, but he works in a small home garage and is cramped for space, so he is often tripping over things. In the process of bagging and tagging all the bolts and parts, this very good friend accidentally upset the apple cart that his pushrods were laid on.
Now, this friend thinks that some of them may still be in order. Also, half of the rods have a small round wear mark, while the other half have a slightly bigger round wear mark.
Is there any hope for matching them with their original valves again? Or should he A: Put it back together and hope for the best, or B: now do a FULL rebuild of the engine
R. David Carlson, Jr.
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 bobg1951chevy
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05-05-12 08:58 PM - Post#2222937
In response to DavidDeLuxe
Being that he is your "friend" I would take the chance and put it back together with what you believe to be correct.
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05-05-12 09:03 PM - Post#2222941
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I have a friend who did the exact same thing!! What are the odds!!!! In my case... oops... I mean in my friend's case he just gave it his best guess when putting them back in. 
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05-06-12 05:03 AM - Post#2222990
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dave with push rods on a 235 is no real big deal you going to need to adjust all them again any way.you did say you rebuilt motor so a guesse a new cam went in so adjusting would be a defent job being done 
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05-06-12 06:14 AM - Post#2223015
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Nice to have it all in proper order but if it ain't it ain't and all will work out in the long run. I think we all have friends like that. I have one that forgot to put the rotor back in the distributor after installing and setting a new set of points. Ran my brand new battery into the ground. 
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05-06-12 06:27 AM - Post#2223022
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2blu52, don't you mean your friends battery?
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05-06-12 11:38 AM - Post#2223120
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age related spastic brain activity. Of course I meant my friend. 
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05-06-12 12:06 PM - Post#2223130
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I once had to... I mean this same friend of mine once had to pull and reinstall the oil pan on his 261 FOUR times due to screwing up the installation procedure! He ran all the auto-parts store out of oil pan gaskets for 15 miles around--true story!!
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05-06-12 02:50 PM - Post#2223177
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Rrausch, I have a friend just like that. He shows up from time to time and does some of the strangest things. I told my wife the other day that he spends 1/2 of his time loosing things and the other 1/2 looking for them. My friend that is.
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05-06-12 03:36 PM - Post#2223195
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Strewth! You have mates just like me!
What are the chances of that happening 
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05-06-12 06:40 PM - Post#2223246
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My friend is named "I don't Know". It seems he showed up one day while my three boys were growing up and has stayed around. Every time something gets jumbled or misplaced or broken....you guessed it "I don't know" did it
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05-06-12 07:10 PM - Post#2223258
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Years agfo the mechanics in our dealerdhip never put the push-rods back in the same position and neither did I. Either they are good or bad and the adjustment will take care of the reae. However lifters sold be put back in the same position due to the way they are contacted by the cam lobe.
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05-06-12 09:32 PM - Post#2223287
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Years agfo the mechanics in our dealerdhip never put the push-rods back in the same position and neither did I. Either they are good or bad and the adjustment will take care of the reae. However lifters sold be put back in the same position due to the way they are contacted by the cam lobe.
Gene is correct... Just put the pushrods in, adjust them and worry about the IMPORTANT things;, Like who's buying the beer when the job is finished..?..
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05-07-12 03:48 AM - Post#2223322
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05-07-12 05:19 AM - Post#2223345
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Also -and this is really important - make sure you install the push-rods in the correct direction! Installing them horizontally will lead to very poor performance.
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DavidDeLuxe
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05-11-12 07:34 AM - Post#2224786
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I'm on the fence right now about how far to go with this new engine.
On one side, I think that work done now is work I don't have to do later, so that's good.
On the other side, I also think that the weather is absolutely beautiful today and who among us wouldn't prefer to be turning the steering wheel outside than be turning the wrench inside ??
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DavidDeLuxe
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05-11-12 07:37 AM - Post#2224789
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Too late - guess I just converted the old Blue Flame into a Porsche flat six 
I'm pretty sure this makes me some kind of engineering genius 
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DavidDeLuxe
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05-11-12 07:47 AM - Post#2224791
In response to Gene_Schneider
Thank you, Gene. That is primarily what my question was driving at. The manual, rebuild guides, and other sources all stress the importance of returning the rocker/lifter/valve-assem bly to it's original order, and usually the pushrods are included with that.
I lifted the rocker arm assembly off together, so it is only my pushrods that are partially out of order. I haven't gone down to the lifters yet and I'm not sure I will.
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