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Lee Thompson
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06-11-12 04:21 AM - Post#2235675    

I am looking @ a 62 impala with a factory 3 speed on the column. If I should want to go to a Muncie 4 speed, what problems would I encounter other than a shifter, ie. front and rear spline count--length of trans---would the clutch have to be changed? Thanks--new member here.---Lee
arnieg141
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arnieg141
06-11-12 04:58 AM - Post#2235683    

none every thing works to gether..if your on a budget a good choice is a saginaw 4 speed you can get for about 1/4 price of munci
GET ER DONE .. AS I GET OLDER I LIKE FAST CARS I CAN STILL DRIVE. AND VERY SLOW WOMEN I CAN CATCH while still able..arnie garrison

wagonmaster
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wagonmaster
06-11-12 05:03 AM - Post#2235686    

I've done this swap. The main thing is drive shaft length. The rest was good to go!Don't forget the hole you must cut in the floor for the shifter.....
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arnieg141
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arnieg141
06-11-12 11:31 AM - Post#2235823    

joe going from 3 to 4 speed the drive shaft should be ready to go
GET ER DONE .. AS I GET OLDER I LIKE FAST CARS I CAN STILL DRIVE. AND VERY SLOW WOMEN I CAN CATCH while still able..arnie garrison

aawtech
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06-11-12 12:00 PM - Post#2235829    

No Arnie, They are not good to go. The 4 speed driveshaft is different than the stock 3 speed. That's why late great 4 speed driveshafts are so expensive,so sought after and so hard to find. They are different.

Donny
Chevrobert
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06-11-12 12:19 PM - Post#2235835    

I don't know about the rest of it,
I could be wrong(not the first time )
But
I think the 4 speed is a longer tranny equaling the need for a shorter drive shaft.
Or a master welder
Bob
1964 Impala SS 327 4 Forward Gears & 1 Reverse

See the USA in your Chevrolet..

66cayne
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Posts 1810
06-11-12 12:45 PM - Post#2235845    

You will need to disconnect the 3 speed shift linkage at the bottom of the column and if you want it to look correct you will need a 4 speed steering column too.
Lee Thompson
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06-11-12 01:32 PM - Post#2235870    

Thanks for the replies---I am aware of ther steering column and the need to make a 4 speed shifter hole. I assume the lever can be removed from the 3 speed column. Keep in mind I am new to 62 Impalas. Lots to learn!!!! Any value in the 3 speed?---Lee
arnieg141
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arnieg141
06-11-12 02:12 PM - Post#2235887    

  • aawtech Said:
No Arnie, They are not good to go. The 4 speed driveshaft is different than the stock 3 speed. That's why late great 4 speed driveshafts are so expensive,so sought after and so hard to find. They are different.

Donny


don would not be first time i was wrong. but since the 3 speed drive shaft is longer should not be that exensive to have it cut down and balanced
GET ER DONE .. AS I GET OLDER I LIKE FAST CARS I CAN STILL DRIVE. AND VERY SLOW WOMEN I CAN CATCH while still able..arnie garrison

62sedan
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62sedan
06-11-12 03:13 PM - Post#2235910    

Here are the individual front driveshaft lengths that I've posted many times in the past.........

Lengths of FRONT driveshafts

59-64 4-speed & 3-speed w/OD front shaft= 24 5/8"

59-64 3-speed & 59-61 Turboglide front shaft= 29 3/4"

59-64 Powerglide front shaft= 26 13/16"

Measurement is tip to tip length with front shaft completely disassembled.... front U-joint and slip yoke removed, center U-joint flange and center bearing removed.
Chuck





Red64SS
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Red64SS
06-11-12 03:40 PM - Post#2235920    

This is my game plan for my 64 2-dr post w/muncie

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64 Impala SS AC convertible 65K mile survivor.
Almost identical to the first new car I ever bought back in 1964

64 Bel Air 2-door sedan 327 w/factory AC (project)

2007 Silverado Classic 2500 diesel

1977 Porsche 911S

1972 BMW 3.0 CSL


arnieg141
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arnieg141
06-11-12 04:06 PM - Post#2235928    

red thats a cheep fix for him then $159.00 for a new front drive shaft. better than getting the old one cut and balanced
GET ER DONE .. AS I GET OLDER I LIKE FAST CARS I CAN STILL DRIVE. AND VERY SLOW WOMEN I CAN CATCH while still able..arnie garrison

Lee Thompson
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06-11-12 04:35 PM - Post#2235947    

Thank you--you guys are great !!!!--Lee
Mad Joe
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Mad Joe
06-11-12 07:28 PM - Post#2236015    

Lee:

let me chime in. In your first post you were asking about using the original clutch, pressure plate and throw out bearing.

Unless they were changed in the last few miles, I would be replacing all. No need to have to go back in to replace them later.

I call it cheap insurance.
Lee Thompson
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06-12-12 12:46 PM - Post#2236264    

True!!!
wagonmaster
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wagonmaster
06-13-12 05:05 AM - Post#2236518    

  • Quote:
joe going from 3 to 4 speed the drive shaft should be ready to go



There are long and short tail shaft three speeds. I had a 6 cyl three speed in mine with the shorter tail shaft and the stock powerglide drive shaft worked (don't recall the length)when I changed it over in 1966.
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Joe

doubleE
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doubleE
06-13-12 04:13 PM - Post#2236788    


"There are long and short tail shaft three speeds. I had a 6 cyl three speed in mine with the shorter tail shaft and the stock powerglide drive shaft worked (don't recall the length)when I changed it over in 1966."

That makes sense to me. Back in the 70s I replaced a blown cast iron PG with a 3 speed stick on a 62 Impala 283 and used the same driveshaft with no modifications.

Eric
Proud owner of My Blue 62 Impala SS

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