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seeking_50s_help
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05-15-07 01:21 PM - Post#1165365    

I know for the early 1950 chevy's they made two different types of sun visors. One, which I believe is factory, was a solid single piece visor that attached to the center window post and again at the edges of the window. The second, was an after-market and came in two pieces. These pieces came together at the center window post and had a piece of chrome to cover where the two metal pieces joined. I believe there is a specific name for each of these visors, what are they? Second, I believe the single piece (factory) is much more expensive to purchase is this correct? If so does anyone have a dollar difference estimate?

Thanks for all your help
ryan49
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ryan49
05-15-07 02:47 PM - Post#1165440    

I'm not sure, but I must have the 2 piece you're speaking of.

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Gene_Schneider
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05-15-07 02:58 PM - Post#1165454    

What year are your refering to?

The visor that Chevrolet sold in 1949 was a two piece with a wide chrome mouding covering the center joint.It had three screws that attached it to the rain gutter on each side.
The 1950-52 visor was the same except it had a wide chrome moulding on the front edge.
These are the only visors sold by Chevrolet.

The Pontiac visors for those year was a one piece with a chrome band around the entire unit.Iy also was screwed to the rain gutter.Very common to see these on 1949-52 Chevrolets.

The oldsmobile visor had a heavy chrome ban on the front edge and louvers on the sides where it attached to the rain gutter.Not real common.

The visor in the picture on the blue car is an early style Fulton.From 1950 and up they had a mich better unit.There were probably at least a dozen different companies that sold visors.
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kimo90803
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05-15-07 03:38 PM - Post#1165499    

Aloha! this is a topic that really needs sorted out with photos and pinned.

Yours Ryan49 is a "Fulton sunshield", looks great, but not GM, aftermarket, man they look good on the right car or truck though, and yours is one.

I saw Gene mentioned GM made several, (maybe for the entire GM line, but I'm talking Chevrolet now) but I'm not sure and if they did I'd like to see pictures and part numbers please.

This photo is a factory GM accessory sunvisor for the 1949-1952 Chevrolet cars, and I've heard back to '41. GM part # 986433. (if someone could back that part up I'd appreciate it)



and






You can tell it's GM for Chevrolet and not pontiac because it only has the stainless trim on the leading edge, not the trailing edge, and this GM carried thru even on the Chevy 53/54 visors. It can also be recognized as GM due to it's being screwed to the OUTSIDE of the raingutter at either end, as per the Chevrolet accessory installation proceedures, in some other brands use clamps. Also 2 piece with center bracket to windshield

53/54's were the 1 piece, with center bracket to roof

There are many more, another aftermarket visor is a Dietrich, fairly well desireable, clamps on at edges, wider stainless piece in the middle?. A nickname for the GM visor can be "baseball cap", but if you talk to 5 people you get 5 different visors and thats what makes it hard shopping for one.

another thing needs mentioned, some might say that Pontiac will fit and are better looking but here in SoCal it is frowned upon bigtime to put a pontiac visor on your Chevy, the Chevies are harder to find and more expensive so when we see a pontiac on a Chevy well, it's just kinda cheesey. Doesn't mean people dont do or cant, but theres some stigma with doing that 'round these parts

Prices on 49-52 are around and up to $300, occasionally an NOS would go for $400 but I wouldn't pay it, in fact I'd have a hard time paying more than $200, but I can't find one right now, and I'm looking! (never around when you need one, kinda like cops)

The 53-54's are now being re-poped and I think this has drivin the price down somewhat, around $350, I saw one go for $600, and they used to be worth around that, depending what brackets at the end you need, hardtop, truck/wagon, coupe.

I dig visors on cars and I especially like my Chevies to have Chevy visors, unless it was a '48 Fleetline or trucks and suburbans, then I'll have a fulton, not knocking yours at all Ryan, i dig the Fultons, a LOT, just my preferance. The dietrichs look good too
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agoogol
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05-15-07 03:58 PM - Post#1165515    

So I picked one up ata swap meet, thinking it would look cool on my 52. It has the louvers on the sides, that makes it an Oldmobile? Not very common? Any idea the value? I am considering getting rid of it to pay for real stuff....
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51ChevySled
05-15-07 04:16 PM - Post#1165527    

So if I understand correctly, my visor is a Pontiac? Cool if it is, just didn't know.



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kimo90803
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05-15-07 04:24 PM - Post#1165535    

Hey Bryan! yep, sho nuff, now you know the "cheesey" doesn't count on Kool Kustoms, so I must re-state that on STOCK, and some low-rider cars the co-mingling aint cool!!! (back peddling or what?)



And heres also where it gets weird, that is a one piece, so is it a 53/54 pontiac?

I also looked up the install manual for chevy, and the drawing, which are usually very accurate, doesn't show a 'chrome' piece on the leading edge, making me think Chevy carried over the ART from the '49 manual into the '51 manual, which proves Gene's statement that in '49, no leading edge 'chrome'.
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51ChevySled
05-15-07 04:31 PM - Post#1165539    

Hahaha...hola Kimo, I couldn't agree more,,,but I'm not a fan of visors on chopped cars...maybe if I was re-popping traffic-light viewers...

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Gene_Schneider
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05-15-07 05:00 PM - Post#1165558    

Bryans visor is the Pontiac.It fits Chevrolet.

Kimos is the 1950-52 Chevrolet.The 1949 did not have the chrome on the front edge.The 1950 Accessory book shows installing the visor - but its the same picture they used in 1949 so the front chrome strip is not there.
Olssmobile made several visors with louvers.One fit the 1949-51 Olds 76 and 88 and that one will fit a Chevrolet.They made another that fit the 1950-51 98 and it will be way too wide for a Chevrolet.They made another that fit a 1951-53 Super 88 and 1952-53 98 and that will be a little too wide.
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deluxe50
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05-15-07 05:48 PM - Post#1165610    

Has anybody seen a list of visors that will fit their specific car? I've got a '50 chevy styline and will go by what you've said, but which common pontiacs and olds fit me too?

Also, I see them on ebay from time to time and would we like to note if we're bidding on them so we don't try to out bid ourselves? Is that collusion? Ha ha.

Ray.
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MR. 50 STYLELINE
05-15-07 06:29 PM - Post#1165644    

Of coarse Gene is correct on this. I might also add that I have a '49 and a '50-'52 visor and they seem to be made of different material. The '50 seems to be more heavier Steel and the '49 feels a little lighter. Did they use different materials or am I wrong???
51ChevySled
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05-15-07 07:55 PM - Post#1165701    

Here are a few pics for reference...







On the '49-52s, would the fleetline visor be different than the coupes and sedans since the glass is?

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kimo90803
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05-15-07 09:01 PM - Post#1165741    

A list with pictures would be cool. Aftermarket had soo many, all aluminium with a stamped pattern, big wide middle stainless section, etc,,,

in high school way back in 1978 my car/surfmobile was a 1947 plymouth deluxe and to this day I have never seen another visor like the one I had on it, not even on other plymouths

Bryan yeah man visors on chopped cars aint happenin, nor on super smooth west coast Watson style mild customs with no chop or skirts. then they aint right either. And no skirts was west coast style, mid to late '50's

Whats that car Jack Nicholson drives in some movie, '49 Hudson convertable? but it has a visor too? on a convertable? Looks the business though

Like the hubcap post we should do a visor post, we can take pictures of what we have, document it via Gene and others and literature, then there ya go

Oh yeah and Gene, that visor isn't mine, I missed it on ebay but I saved the pictures to study so i would get the right one once i found it, which I may have, traded a gennie '54 Chevrolet for an NOS one, but it isn't hear yet and I hope i just didn't jinks it!
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Mist Green 50
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05-15-07 11:35 PM - Post#1165791    

The 1949 and 49-52 Chevrolet visor's were made by Dieterich FOR Chevy/GM.
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173rdherd
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173rdherd
05-16-07 02:14 AM - Post#1165806    

which visor fits my 53 wagon?
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MrMack
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05-16-07 08:41 AM - Post#1165980    

Sorry to be a wet blanket but I think all outside sunvisors are non-cool and look crappy. The Fultons are most crappy looking on a Chevy. They are a pain in the eye for a driver having to look down and under the non-cool things. They also vibrate and flap in the wind around freeway speeds.

Curb Feelers, blue dots, fog lights, headlight visors, WWW, breezys, and Foxtails on the antenna are COOL!
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kimo90803
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05-16-07 09:29 AM - Post#1166012    

Those cars Bryan are gorgeous, even if above I mentioned 'they aint right' on those type of cars, nonsense, they are great looking cars. A FEW watson style cars that dont have them are cool too,,,,,

This is a GM for 53/54 Chevrolets, the sheet metal was the same for all models including trucks, only brackets at the end were different, wagon required an extension for the center mount to roof, I saw one on ebay, once.






I cant find my wifes brackets or I would have included a picture of those too, important part specific for your vehicle, after she gets home I'll post them, hers is a '54 hardtop.
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51ChevySled
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05-16-07 02:07 PM - Post#1166188    

It's interesting to see the blend of customs and lowriders at so many of these shows today...I haven't been around long enough to say whether it's traditional, but there are enough of 'em to prove it's a popular style.

Kimo...I think you're idea of a visor reference chart is a great one. It'll help others identify which ones Mr. Mack is getting rid of ,,,only joking.

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khardy
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05-16-07 03:20 PM - Post#1166236    

Hey Guys!

If some of you are serious about making an online reference for the different "Sunvisors," send me your photos with information such as manufacturer, model, what it fits, dimensions, installation instructions, etc. I can easily set a up a web page to display this information such as I am trying to do with the Hubcap Identification Page

Just send it to my website email: chevymanuals@yahoo.com with "Sunvisor" in the subject line so it doesn't get put into the junk mail folder.

Cheers!

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Vonratnick
05-16-07 03:45 PM - Post#1166258    

  • kimo90803 Said:

Whats that car Jack Nicholson drives in some movie, '49 Hudson convertable? but it has a visor too? on a convertable? Looks the business though



Movie is The Two Jakes - cool car, for a non chevy I mean You can see from my avatar I'm a visor guy - no pics just yet, but I'll get some if a gallery gets up.
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dwiggins
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dwiggins
05-17-07 08:47 AM - Post#1166798    

Sounds like I've got an aftermarket visor then. It came in the back seat of the car when I got it. It has a short chrome piece along the middle of the front edge of the visor. Sort of points forward in the middle if I remember correctly.
I'll upload a picture later.
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05-17-07 04:31 PM - Post#1167148    

  • dwiggins Said:
It came in the back seat of the car when I got it.



Then that makes a world of difference...you've got the "rear seat visor". I believe there were only a few of those made as it caused problems when carrying passengers in the rear seat and going over big bumps!
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dwiggins
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dwiggins
05-17-07 06:00 PM - Post#1167223    

Heres a picture of the one I've got. Haven't tried it on yet so I'm not even sure if it will fit.

http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/show_ima ge.pl?bg=330099&image=ht tp://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2 501000-2501999/2501312_12 _full.jpg
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Mist Green 50
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05-18-07 12:13 AM - Post#1167421    

  • dwiggins Said:

thats a Dieterich.
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kimo90803
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05-18-07 07:49 AM - Post#1167582    

Mist, can you tell by the photo what models it fits? Thanks
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Mist Green 50
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05-19-07 09:48 PM - Post#1168703    

  • kimo90803 Said:
Mist, can you tell by the photo what models it fits? Thanks


they are adjustable.
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FlintStoneBrakes
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04-29-08 03:32 PM - Post#1423058    

anyone know how to find sun visor mounts?
1950 styleline 4dr----I want a sun visor, can you help me?

eplantage
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eplantage
04-30-08 08:59 AM - Post#1423573    

Salvage yard, swap meet or ebay are the best chances you'll have. As mentioned earlier there are some that are being reproduced, entire visors, that is. unless you find someone with spare parts willing to part with them.
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chevy52
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10-12-08 11:10 AM - Post#1540331    

have one like yours...where can i find brackets to put on 52' chevy p/u?....have brackets already for auto but not for the 52' p/u.......
chevy52
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10-12-08 11:12 AM - Post#1540334    

this is to kimo90803......
kimo90803
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10-12-08 01:26 PM - Post#1540405    

hmm, which one? the 1 piece is for (53 cars?) 54 cars and trucks, one piece windshield's only (OK for the picky ones 55 1st series p/u as well) they will fit of course, but the end brackets are different for truck's, so you'll need to do some hunting, they might re-pop them too. try a truck place like

http://www.oldchevytrucks.com/cgi/htmlos.exe/start...

If you have the 2 piece, I'm not sure they are the same for trucks or not, try the truck places, I never did get a visor for my '51 Carryall suburban, I was holding out for the proper GM one, kinda hard to find, plus I like the fultons on trucks myself, so I can't answer if car and truck visor sheetmetal are the same or not for the earlier (pre one-piece windshield) models
sorry man

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twotone
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10-13-08 05:51 PM - Post#1541363    

Anybody seen a canvas sun visor? I passed up a real nice one at a swap meet for $40.00. Dark green canvas stretched over a metal frame. Seller has had it for 10 or 15 years and can't unload it because no one knows what it fits. It seems canvas would be unstable at high-way speeds but it would be a cool conversation piece.
Nash

chevy52
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10-17-08 12:13 PM - Post#1544317    

I have a old visor but not aware of anything about it if u could go to craiglist and type in (1948 to 1954 Year Sun Visor "Ball Cap" FOR SALE) and let me know some info u could give me, from price range to sell and some basic info on it, hope to hear from u soon.....
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10-18-08 02:04 PM - Post#1544957    

I have also been told that a visor for 51-52 hardtop "belair" is not interchangable with the visor for a sedan (post). I thibk the hardtop visor is a little wider than 1 for a post car.--


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chevy52
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10-20-08 02:33 PM - Post#1546335    

where can i find brackets for ball cap visor?
Royer
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10-21-08 12:39 PM - Post#1547014    

At this point in time, I'd think that you'd have to fabricate them yourself. After all, anyone who had just the brackets most likely threw them out long ago (thinking that the brackets were of no use without the visor itself). And anyone with both the visor and the brackets would either have it installed on a car or be wanting to sell the entire assembly.

Now if you can find someone who has a complete assembly, you could probably negotiate a deal of some sort so that you could get some photos and key dimensions. That way, you'd have something on which to base your bracket fabrications.

Royer
chevy52
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10-23-08 10:29 AM - Post#1548250    

where can i find bracketss for 52' chevy p/u ? for poniac exterior sun visor.. the rain gutter type....
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